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Hello, and welcome to the official thread for the Round of 32 in the Newgrounds Audio Deathmatch 2017 (NGADM ‘17)! Don’t know what the NGADM is, you say? Find out!

We started out with 235 Audition tracks. Out of those, a mere 64 were selected to move on into the first Tournament round. In each round from here out, the number of contestants will be halved, leading ultimately to the final showdown, one last versus match to determine who stands alone as this year’s winner. But that’s a tale for another time. After countless hours of deliberation by your judges, @Bosa, @ChronoNomad, @EDM364, @Samulis, @SkyeWint, and @TaintedLogic, we are staring down the fully-loaded barrel of results for the Round of 64!

But we also want to take a moment to thank @LucidShadowDreamer for keeping tabs on the festivities and @Ceevro for our fantastic logo. You should seriously take a moment to favorite all these amazing people if you haven’t already. There’s also a bracket-sorted playlist available for your listening pleasure. There’s so much fantastic music, it would be an absolute shame to not hear them all.

Well, I think that’s about all that need be said. On to the results!

N G A D M 2017 - Round of 32

Response to N G A D M 2017 - Round of 32 2017-07-17 01:48:53


Group 01: @1f1n1ty vs @bassfiddlejones & @joshgawaldomusic

1f1n1ty
Bosa: 9.4
ChronoNomad: 9.25
EDM364: 9.58
Samulis: 9.05
SkyeWint: 8.9
TaintedLogic: 8.75
AVERAGE: 9.16

bassfiddlejones & joshgawaldomusic
Bosa: 9.54
ChronoNomad: 9.93
EDM364: 8.98
Samulis: 8.15
SkyeWint: 9.5
TaintedLogic: 9.5
AVERAGE: 9.27

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WINNER: bassfiddlejones & joshgawaldomusic
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Group 02: @Phonometrologist vs @garlagan

Phonometrologist
Bosa: 9.5
ChronoNomad: 9.95
EDM364: 9.79
Samulis: 9.2
SkyeWint: 9.8
TaintedLogic: 9.5
AVERAGE: 9.62

garlagan
Bosa: 9.44
ChronoNomad: 9.32
EDM364: 9.68
Samulis: 9.3
SkyeWint: 8.5
TaintedLogic: 9.5
AVERAGE: 9.29

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WINNER: Phonometrologist
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Group 03: @SoundChris vs @EvilRaccoon

SoundChris
Bosa: 9.4
ChronoNomad: 9.3
EDM364: 7.6
Samulis: 7.9
SkyeWint: 8.3
TaintedLogic: 8.75
AVERAGE: 8.54

EvilRaccoon
Bosa: 9
ChronoNomad: 8.95
EDM364: 8.79
Samulis: 7.8
SkyeWint: 8.7
TaintedLogic: 8.75
AVERAGE: 8.67

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WINNER: EvilRaccoon
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Group 04: @AceMantra vs @Noisysundae

AceMantra
Bosa: 8.38
ChronoNomad: 7.89
EDM364: 7.57
Samulis: 6.85
SkyeWint: 7
TaintedLogic: 8
AVERAGE: 7.62

Noisysundae
Bosa: 8.38
ChronoNomad: 8.26
EDM364: 7.9
Samulis: 7.95
SkyeWint: 7.8
TaintedLogic: 7.75
AVERAGE: 8.01

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WINNER: Noisysundae
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Group 05: @JacobCadmus vs @GhostLawyer

JacobCadmus
Bosa: 8.6
ChronoNomad: 8.42
EDM364: 8.2
Samulis: 7.55
SkyeWint: 9
TaintedLogic: 9
AVERAGE: 8.46

GhostLawyer
Bosa: 9
ChronoNomad: 9.39
EDM364: 8.6
Samulis: 7.6
SkyeWint: 6.5
TaintedLogic: 8.5
AVERAGE: 8.27

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WINNER: JacobCadmus
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Group 06: @etherealwinds vs @LucidShadowDreamer & @SnowTeddy

etherealwinds
Bosa: 9.3
ChronoNomad: 9.55
EDM364: 9.89
Samulis: 8.55
SkyeWint: 8.3
TaintedLogic: 9
AVERAGE: 9.1

LucidShadowDreamer & SnowTeddy
Bosa: 9.3
ChronoNomad: 9.27
EDM364: 8.2
Samulis: 7.9
SkyeWint: 8.2
TaintedLogic: 8.75
AVERAGE: 8.6

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WINNER: etherealwinds
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Group 07: @F-777 vs @Xtrullor & @HeliXiX

F-777
Bosa: 7.95
ChronoNomad: 8.4
EDM364: 8.28
Samulis: 8.2
SkyeWint: 8.7
TaintedLogic: 8.25
AVERAGE: 8.3

Xtrullor & HeliXiX
Bosa: 8.15
ChronoNomad: 8.25
EDM364: 8.4
Samulis: 8.5
SkyeWint: 8.8
TaintedLogic: 8.5
AVERAGE: 8.43

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WINNER: Xtrullor & HeliXiX
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Group 08: @johnfn & @ethansight vs @Kor-Rune

johnfn & ethansight
Bosa: 8.49
ChronoNomad: 8.56
EDM364: 8.6
Samulis: 8.45
SkyeWint: 8.9
TaintedLogic: 9.25
AVERAGE: 8.71

Kor-Rune
Bosa: 9.8
ChronoNomad: 8.5
EDM364: 7.9
Samulis: 8.4
SkyeWint: 7.2
TaintedLogic: 8.25
AVERAGE: 8.34

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WINNER: johnfn & ethansight
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Group 09: @NahuPyrope vs @FinnMK

NahuPyrope
Bosa: 8
ChronoNomad: 8.1
EDM364: 7.94
Samulis: 7.9
SkyeWint: 7.5
TaintedLogic: 9
AVERAGE: 8.07

FinnMK
Bosa: 8.5
ChronoNomad: 9.14
EDM364: 9.05
Samulis: 8.75
SkyeWint: 9.2
TaintedLogic: 9.5
AVERAGE: 9.02

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WINNER: FinnMK
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Group 10: @SourJovis vs @ConnorGrail

SourJovis
Bosa: 7.88
ChronoNomad: 7.6
EDM364: 7
Samulis: 6.8
SkyeWint: 6.9
TaintedLogic: 5
AVERAGE: 6.86

ConnorGrail
Bosa: 9.18
ChronoNomad: 9.22
EDM364: 8
Samulis: 8.3
SkyeWint: 6.2
TaintedLogic: 9.5
AVERAGE: 8.4

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WINNER: ConnorGrail
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Group 11: @SteveSyz vs @5TanLey

SteveSyz (withdrew)
Bosa: -
ChronoNomad: -
EDM364: -
Samulis: -
SkyeWint: -
TaintedLogic: -
AVERAGE: -

5TanLey
Bosa: 7
ChronoNomad: 7.8
EDM364: 8.5
Samulis: 6.9
SkyeWint: 6.2
TaintedLogic: 8.75
AVERAGE: 7.53

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WINNER: 5TanLey
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Group 12: @DwightFalcon vs @JDawg00100

DwightFalcon
Bosa: 7
ChronoNomad: 6.5
EDM364: 7
Samulis: 6.2
SkyeWint: 7.1
TaintedLogic: 6
AVERAGE: 6.63

JDawg00100
Bosa: 7.72
ChronoNomad: 7.82
EDM364: 7.76
Samulis: 7.5
SkyeWint: 6.6
TaintedLogic: 8.75
AVERAGE: 7.69

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WINNER: JDawg00100
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Group 13: @Demon-Wolf vs @Lethalix

Demon-Wolf
Bosa: 8.9
ChronoNomad: 9.28
EDM364: 9.4
Samulis: 7.7
SkyeWint: 7.5
TaintedLogic: 8.25
AVERAGE: 8.51

Lethalix
Bosa: 7.8
ChronoNomad: 8.05
EDM364: 7.14
Samulis: 8
SkyeWint: 7.2
TaintedLogic: 8.5
AVERAGE: 7.78

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WINNER: Demon-Wolf
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Group 14: @TolanMusic vs @TSRBand

TolanMusic
Bosa: 8.4
ChronoNomad: 8.37
EDM364: 8.62
Samulis: 6.8
SkyeWint: 8.5
TaintedLogic: 9.25
AVERAGE: 8.32

TSRBand
Bosa: 7.48
ChronoNomad: 7.53
EDM364: 7
Samulis: 7.75
SkyeWint: 6.5
TaintedLogic: 8
AVERAGE: 7.38

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WINNER: TolanMusic
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Group 15: @larrylarrybb vs @Malifex

larrylarrybb
Bosa: 7.8
ChronoNomad: 7.45
EDM364: 7.4
Samulis: 6.65
SkyeWint: 7.2
TaintedLogic: 8
AVERAGE: 7.42

Malifex
Bosa: 7.42
ChronoNomad: 7.82
EDM364: 7.7
Samulis: 7.4
SkyeWint: 7.7
TaintedLogic: 8
AVERAGE: 7.67

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WINNER: Malifex
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Group 16: @midimachine vs @Jabicho & Peachymaiden

midimachine
Bosa: 8.02
ChronoNomad: 9.5
EDM364: 9.2
Samulis: 8
SkyeWint: 8.8
TaintedLogic: 9.25
AVERAGE: 8.8

Jabicho & Peachymaiden
Bosa: 8.12
ChronoNomad: 8.8
EDM364: 8
Samulis: 7.4
SkyeWint: 9.1
TaintedLogic: 9
AVERAGE: 8.4

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WINNER: midimachine
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Group 17: @Metallica1136 vs @Rahmemhotep

Metallica1136
Bosa: 7.83
ChronoNomad: 7.97
EDM364: 7.9
Samulis: 7.5
SkyeWint: 6.6
TaintedLogic: 8.25
AVERAGE: 7.68

Rahmemhotep
Bosa: 8.25
ChronoNomad: 8.29
EDM364: 7.88
Samulis: 6.95
SkyeWint: 6.4
TaintedLogic: 7
AVERAGE: 7.46

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WINNER: Metallica1136
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Group 18: @KaixoMusic vs @InYourDreams

KaixoMusic
Bosa: 7.5
ChronoNomad: 8.23
EDM364: 7.88
Samulis: 7.6
SkyeWint: 8
TaintedLogic: 7.75
AVERAGE: 7.83

InYourDreams
Bosa: 8.35
ChronoNomad: 7.92
EDM364: 7.8
Samulis: 7.5
SkyeWint: 7.2
TaintedLogic: 8
AVERAGE: 7.8

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WINNER: KaixoMusic
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Group 19: @CloakedSoup vs @Papkee

CloakedSoup
Bosa: 9
ChronoNomad: 9.2
EDM364: 8.78
Samulis: 7.15
SkyeWint: 7.3
TaintedLogic: 9.5
AVERAGE: 8.49

Papkee
Bosa: 8.53
ChronoNomad: 8.5
EDM364: 8.26
Samulis: 7.35
SkyeWint: 7
TaintedLogic: 9.25
AVERAGE: 8.15

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WINNER: CloakedSoup
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Group 20: @Adjeye vs @JeremyKingVA

Adjeye
Bosa: 7.6
ChronoNomad: 7.66
EDM364: 7.7
Samulis: 7.7
SkyeWint: 8.3
TaintedLogic: 9.25
AVERAGE: 8.04

JeremyKingVA
Bosa: 7
ChronoNomad: 6.88
EDM364: 8.48
Samulis: 7
SkyeWint: 6.4
TaintedLogic: 7
AVERAGE: 7.13

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WINNER: Adjeye
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Group 21: @Namice vs @steelside

Namice (did not submit)
Bosa: -
ChronoNomad: -
EDM364: -
Samulis: -
SkyeWint: -
TaintedLogic: -
AVERAGE: -

steelside
Bosa: 9.5
ChronoNomad: 9.46
EDM364: 7.8
Samulis: 7.9
SkyeWint: 8.6
TaintedLogic: 7
AVERAGE: 8.38

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WINNER: steelside
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Group 22: @Ectisity vs @Veronina

Ectisity
Bosa: 6.7
ChronoNomad: 7.72
EDM364: 5.6
Samulis: 6.3
SkyeWint: 5.5
TaintedLogic: 8.25
AVERAGE: 6.678

Veronina
Bosa: 6.2
ChronoNomad: 6
EDM364: 6.68
Samulis: 6.7
SkyeWint: 7
TaintedLogic: 7.5
AVERAGE: 6.680

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WINNER: Veronina
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Group 23: @LunacyEcho vs @Techmo-X

LunacyEcho
Bosa: 8.33
ChronoNomad: 8.45
EDM364: 6.89
Samulis: 7.05
SkyeWint: 5.6
TaintedLogic: 8
AVERAGE: 7.39

Techmo-X
Bosa: 7.2
ChronoNomad: 7.58
EDM364: 6.8
Samulis: 7.2
SkyeWint: 7.8
TaintedLogic: 8.25
AVERAGE: 7.47

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WINNER: Techmo-X
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Group 24: @jimmypig vs @Waidmann

jimmypig
Bosa: 7.23
ChronoNomad: 7.99
EDM364: 7.2
Samulis: 7
SkyeWint: 6.7
TaintedLogic: 7.75
AVERAGE: 7.31

Waidmann
Bosa: 7
ChronoNomad: 8.3
EDM364: 6.7
Samulis: 7
SkyeWint: 6.7
TaintedLogic: 6.75
AVERAGE: 7.08

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WINNER: jimmypig
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Group 25: @Ceevro vs @ThaPredator

Ceevro
Bosa: 7.55
ChronoNomad: 7.89
EDM364: 7.61
Samulis: 7.25
SkyeWint: 7.4
TaintedLogic: 8.5
AVERAGE: 7.7

ThaPredator
Bosa: 7.71
ChronoNomad: 7.7
EDM364: 8.2
Samulis: 7.5
SkyeWint: 6.5
TaintedLogic: 8.75
AVERAGE: 7.73

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WINNER: ThaPredator
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Group 26: @MrKoolTrix vs @DivoFST

MrKoolTrix
Bosa: 7.75
ChronoNomad: 8
EDM364: 7.3
Samulis: 8.1
SkyeWint: 8.8
TaintedLogic: 9
AVERAGE: 8.16

DivoFST
Bosa: 6.8
ChronoNomad: 7.48
EDM364: 6.56
Samulis: 7.05
SkyeWint: 5.6
TaintedLogic: 9
AVERAGE: 7.08

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WINNER: MrKoolTrix
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Group 27: @DrFunkMonkey vs @larrynachos

DrFunkMonkey
Bosa: 7.06
ChronoNomad: 7.09
EDM364: 5
Samulis: 6.8
SkyeWint: 4.2
TaintedLogic: 6
AVERAGE: 6.03

larrynachos
Bosa: 8.86
ChronoNomad: 8.74
EDM364: 6.99
Samulis: 7.5
SkyeWint: 7.5
TaintedLogic: 8
AVERAGE: 7.93

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WINNER: larrynachos
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Group 28: @McGorilla42 vs @PomicStone

McGorilla42
Bosa: 9.45
ChronoNomad: 9.75
EDM364: 8.96
Samulis: 8.9
SkyeWint: 9
TaintedLogic: 9.5
AVERAGE: 9.26

PomicStone
Bosa: 7.5
ChronoNomad: 7.3
EDM364: 6.79
Samulis: 6.95
SkyeWint: 6.8
TaintedLogic: 8.25
AVERAGE: 7.27

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WINNER: McGorilla42
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Group 29: @AzulJazz vs @Spadezer

AzulJazz
Bosa: 7.54
ChronoNomad: 7.38
EDM364: 7.47
Samulis: 7.7
SkyeWint: 7
TaintedLogic: 8.5
AVERAGE: 7.598

Spadezer
Bosa: 7.1
ChronoNomad: 7.66
EDM364: 7.9
Samulis: 7.2
SkyeWint: 7.5
TaintedLogic: 8.25
AVERAGE: 7.602

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WINNER: Spadezer
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Group 30: @frank-n-furter666 vs @keepwalking

Frank-n-furter666 (did not submit)
Bosa: -
ChronoNomad: -
EDM364: -
Samulis: -
SkyeWint: -
TaintedLogic: -
AVERAGE: -

keepwalking
Bosa: 9
ChronoNomad: 7.26
EDM364: 8.67
Samulis: 7.35
SkyeWint: 5.8
TaintedLogic: 8
AVERAGE: 7.68

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WINNER: keepwalking
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Group 31: @RetromanOMG vs @JaThu

RetromanOMG
Bosa: 6.7
ChronoNomad: 6.89
EDM364: 6.84
Samulis: 6.85
SkyeWint: 5.9
TaintedLogic: 7.75
AVERAGE: 6.82

JaThu
Bosa: 6.58
ChronoNomad: 6.8
EDM364: 6.4
Samulis: 6.25
SkyeWint: 5.2
TaintedLogic: 6.25
AVERAGE: 6.25

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WINNER: RetromanOMG
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Group 32: @ColinMuir vs @Eviladrianin

ColinMuir
Bosa: 7
ChronoNomad: 6.57
EDM364: 6.67
Samulis: 7.35
SkyeWint: 7.4
TaintedLogic: 8.5
AVERAGE: 7.25

Eviladrianin
Bosa: 7.4
ChronoNomad: 7.51
EDM364: 7.05
Samulis: 7.1
SkyeWint: 7.6
TaintedLogic: 8.75
AVERAGE: 7.57

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WINNER: Eviladrianin
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Response to N G A D M 2017 - Round of 32 2017-07-17 01:57:59


Welp, let me be the first to say congratulations to the winners and offer my condolences to the non-winners. It was my utmost pleasure to judge such a talented group of musicians, and I look forward to another round of blood, sweat, and tears in the coming weeks. Best of luck, everyone! ^^


"Reflect on your evils, lest they reflect on you." ~A Magic card lol --- Formerly "TheDoor6"

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Response to N G A D M 2017 - Round of 32 2017-07-17 02:00:36


ggwp @jabicho

glhf @malifex

let's gooooo


p.s. i am gay

Response to N G A D M 2017 - Round of 32 2017-07-17 02:09:38


Oh, I won! I honestly wasn't expecting that outcome.

Well then, time to make my next song.

Response to N G A D M 2017 - Round of 32 2017-07-17 02:11:49


Yay! I won! Going on holiday in 30 minutes, I don't think the next song will be as glamorous as i want it to be... not so much time to play with, but I will not give up!! Good luck everyone o/

Response to N G A D M 2017 - Round of 32 2017-07-17 02:12:35


Average score by judge:

@SkyeWint - 7.44
@Samulis - 7.56
@EDM364 - 7.84
@Bosa - 8.08
@ChronoNomad - 8.20
@TaintedLogic - 8.31

Overall average - 7.91


"Reflect on your evils, lest they reflect on you." ~A Magic card lol --- Formerly "TheDoor6"

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Response to N G A D M 2017 - Round of 32 2017-07-17 02:13:45


Welp. Been a good run, folks! Harsh to lose by .03...but that does give me a sense of relief that I won't be doing this one-handed!

Have fun! I may pop in to say from time-to-time!

@ThaPredator

T'Was a great track! Good match!


:(

bye

kor-rune
garlagan
1f1n1ty
ghostlawyer
soundchris
F-777
ectisity
lunacyecho
inyourdreams
papkee


Come join music competitions on Chips Compo and hang on our Discord!

Good artists copy. Great artists get banned from the Audio Portal.

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Response to N G A D M 2017 - Round of 32 2017-07-17 02:27:07


Congrats to everyone who made it through and to everyone who competed. I'm grateful to have made it through! My competitor last round @pomicstone made a really interesting piece (and makes great music in general), so you should check him out.

I guess it's me and you @larrynachos. GLHF!


hemlo yes i am the do durgs

johnfn made me this signature because i placed 6th in ngadm and only 5th and up got cool signatures but lets face it this is better

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Okay, the bracket is now fully updated and 100% functional!

Even if it does look a bit odd because the site doesn't allow decimal numbers.

And here's the new countdown to the deadline, just to keep everyone on their toes.

A hearty congratulations to all the winners! And to those whose NGADM journey is ending, I am truly sad to see you go.
Each and every one of you is amazing, and I am truly proud to be your Master of Ceremonies. Best of luck in all you do!

Response to N G A D M 2017 - Round of 32 2017-07-17 02:30:08


At 7/17/17 02:13 AM, Ceevro wrote: Welp. Been a good run, folks! Harsh to lose by .03...but that does give me a sense of relief that I won't be doing this one-handed!

Have fun! I may pop in to say from time-to-time!

@ThaPredator

T'Was a great track! Good match!

Wowowowow!!! I cant believe I made it! Your track really deserved to win, keep making awesome music, and REALLY thank yall ^^

Response to N G A D M 2017 - Round of 32 2017-07-17 02:31:16


At 7/17/17 02:12 AM, TaintedLogic wrote: Average score by judge:

@SkyeWint - 7.44

You mean Simon Cowell. Or shall we say Simone in light of recent events. :P

@Samulis - 7.56

Came like a thief in the night, I swear. We were neck and neck, the last scores in all the way.

@EDM364 - 7.84
@Bosa - 8.08

Really weird how I end up .07 off the average. Bosa isn't too far off either. Last time I was .02 from the average? @ChronoNomad, correct me if I'm wrong.

@ChronoNomad - 8.20
@TaintedLogic - 8.31

I can hear the 90's music to My Little Pony, sparkling rainbows, and puffy cotton candy clouds in my head right now.

Overall average - 7.91

A testament to the sheer volume of dope beats. Judging was rough, and some made me question what my ideal 10 would even be.

Response to N G A D M 2017 - Round of 32 2017-07-17 02:37:42


At 7/17/17 02:31 AM, EDM364 wrote: I can hear the 90's music to My Little Pony, sparkling rainbows, and puffy cotton candy clouds in my head right now.

I take my rainbows and unicorns seriously, thanks! :3

But yeah, I think I'm going to have to recalibrate my standards for next round. It'll mitigate my influence on the scores in a way if my range is confined to mostly 8s and 9s.


"Reflect on your evils, lest they reflect on you." ~A Magic card lol --- Formerly "TheDoor6"

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Response to N G A D M 2017 - Round of 32 2017-07-17 02:41:31


At 7/17/17 02:31 AM, EDM364 wrote: Really weird how I end up .07 off the average. Bosa isn't too far off either. Last time I was .02 from the average? @ChronoNomad, correct me if I'm wrong.

You're not wrong. Am I actually being too generous? Hmm... I'd better put a stop to that right now!

Which reminds me: DO NOT expect extended deadlines and all kinds of other niceties moving forward, combatants! We have entered the Round of 32 now, and that means I want to see bloodshed. Sharpen your weapons and prepare for NGAD-Day. The end is nigh.

Except not really since there are still four more rounds to go.

Response to N G A D M 2017 - Round of 32 2017-07-17 03:28:48


Congrats @Connorgrail well done!


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Response to N G A D M 2017 - Round of 32 2017-07-17 03:29:54


Woohoo! :D

Well, that was really fun. Wish us luck to both me and @ThaPredator for this round. :)

Response to N G A D M 2017 - Round of 32 2017-07-17 04:19:04


At 7/17/17 02:00 AM, midimachine wrote: ggwp @jabicho

glhf @malifex

let's gooooo

let's hope i'm worthy of your time, haha. glhf and ggwp everyone


@ChronoNomad @TaintedLogic

I understand that looking at other judges scores average can entice you to think yours should change. There is always an incline to do that. :P Please be aware though of the impact a change in Judging value will do at this stage. If any single judge, chooses to suddenly and evidently be harsher, this may look to be fairer, but only if you started the contest with that.

Due to the nature of judging is dealt through scoring value and quantity and not an opted choice for one or the other participant, a simple change in your value would unbalance all of the above given. Therefore one change in approach to judgement value changes the overall outcome of what should have happened in round 1.

If you look at our group, if @EDM (please don't take this as any offence, I'm using you as an example from my group) was inclined to judge a little tighter between SoundChris's and my track to align with the average judgement of a score then it changes our outcome. The score given to SoundChris was below the average, and mines was above from EDM. It was the deciding value. Tighten that, and you will see @SoundChris go through. I don't mind saying this, because SoundChris and I get along very well, and he knows this already, that I think he should go through.

So. I can see your reasoning, and it's because you're looking at other judges, and realising the influence of a high score, compared to a lower one. But, as you can see, if one judge becomes more inclined to be harsher to average out with another, this impacts the way this first round should therefore have turned out.

This is why maybe the judgement of NGADM could change because it's a death match. It's why judges deliberate with 1v1s. I believe it to be more fair overall. Because in our case. Bosa, ChronoNomad, Sam thought SoundChris's Track merited better, and EDM and Skye thought mines did. Tainted abstained. That's a vote of 3 v 2. Yet, I've went through because of value.

It's an interesting debate to be had, because as a judge you don't want to have more impact than another, at this same time, that's not any judges fault, and you shouldn't change what you think something should deserve because of that. It's just the way it's designed right now. :)

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Also, congrats to all that went through. It's a shame to lose some of the ones I really like and enjoyed. :( But it's all for fun, and that's the best way to take this imo. Too many people are feeling tense with this contest, we need to get back to enjoying it.


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Hey @EvilRaccoon ,

even i already did on fb today i want to also congratulate you in the forum, too. I think you were the well deserved winner here. Your production level - as in most of your works - was really high and you nailed your genre pretty damn awesome! Working on a track within a field we both are not used to made incredible much fun and i do think we both learned a lot with our projects. And i especially enjoyed the long, fun and creative conversations with you until early in the morning ;)

Well - i dont think that i would have deserved the win more than you or that i should have been through. Personally i think our tracks were quite similar in quality, but while i tried to test out several stuff and tried to mix it up within one single project you went straight for the classic synthwave domaine and totally nailed it. Just awesome work. Also you always have to concider that after the regular deadline my track stil had bigger problems which i mostly could repair within the extension we all had, which also means, that after the regular time you also would have been THE CLEAR WINNER!

Hm i guess judging always is something that depends on personal preference and of course is subjective. What i personally would change for the future is this - and that would make everything much easier for the judges aswell: Maybe its the best to have 5 judges, everyone just can decide who wins, all votes are equal and you cant abstain from deciding. I think that all these complicated ways to calculate and rate are not really necessary. I have been a judge myself in a former contest and also found it not that easy to find THE objective way, even i always tried to be as objective as possible. So i personally would recommend just to let the judges decide, what they like more by having the choice to vote for A or B. Personally i dont think that the judges besides EDM´s score, which i dont take personal (like i said - judging is something subjective), would have preferred my piece. I think the match was quite even and that´s also what the scores show: we were very close :)

And now i just can say congrats to the wieners in general and to @EvilRaccoon especially. Go get them! Be epic and make SoundChris proud! And maybe - who knows. I am the 3rd best looser. You never know how many guys wont be able to submit this round. So better beware to condemn me to death in this NGADM at this point - same as infinity or garlagan.

"The dead may aswell be dead ... but are they?" :D


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Response to N G A D M 2017 - Round of 32 2017-07-17 06:13:23


Well played @AzulJazz, it was a close match


Don't worry, I'm judging you.

......if you're currently in either NGADM or NGUAC. No pressure. :)


At 7/17/17 04:31 AM, EvilRaccoon wrote: @ChronoNomad @TaintedLogic

I understand that looking at other judges scores average can entice you to think yours should change.

Well, while I can't exactly speak for @TaintedLogic, regarding my own scoring standards--don't expect those to actually change. That was meant to be more tongue-in-cheek, though I suppose that kind of idea tends to get lost over text. Besides, it's my own intrinsic judging sense, and I already know that changing things up at this point would be anything but helpful.

As for the other stuff, about deadlines and whatnot, that actually should be taken at face value.

Oh, and @SoundChris is definitely right about one thing: we won't have any trouble filling vacated spots this round, whatsoever.
IF ANYONE NEEDS TO BACK OUT OF THE CONTEST FOR ANY REASON--LET US KNOW IMMEDIATELY!!!
If you're even feeling a strong inclination that pulling out of the contest would be a good idea, just move over and let the next person in line take your spot. Walkovers are never appreciated, and it is insulting to your competition. Thank you.

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At 7/17/17 02:41 AM, ChronoNomad wrote:

You're not wrong. Am I actually being too generous? Hmm... I'd better put a stop to that right now!

If you do, that will make the actual avarage lower too :D
So you'd have to get even harsher to get close to the new avarage ;)


I can't say that it didn't hurt. I would be lying to myself.

But I also can't say that I'm not happy. Even if I only got a taste, I still got a taste. I can still name many, many things I have gained from this.

I mean, come on. If this wasn't tournament based, I got fourth. I managed to find a spot in the two most competitive brackets here (rip garlagan btw).

Well. Third time's the charm. Next year. Next year.

Also Skye owes me 10 bucks cuz I sort of bet that I would lose

Wait, does that mean I'm second backup or something? Are we going by highest scores for backups?

Either way there's no way I'd be ready to jump back on

hey man, you uh you got something on your face right there, lemme just... ok, there we go, MUCH better, you are looking GOOD AS NEW

Response to N G A D M 2017 - Round of 32 2017-07-17 08:38:43


Damn. It's almost tradition at this point for me to lose the first round.

@CloakedSoup great job, you earned it with that piece (and you didn't believe me when I said you'd take round 1)

Response to N G A D M 2017 - Round of 32 2017-07-17 09:30:22


Lord ha' mercy, my nerves are finally settled!

@ConnorGrail, our duel of fates begins...now!

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...#teamfinn

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At 7/17/17 04:31 AM, EvilRaccoon wrote: I understand that looking at other judges scores average can entice you to think yours should change. There is always an incline to do that. :P Please be aware though of the impact a change in Judging value will do at this stage. If any single judge, chooses to suddenly and evidently be harsher, this may look to be fairer, but only if you started the contest with that.

Yeah, you're right. My line of reasoning was that it'd be more helpful to award full credit in one of my categories only to work I consider "exceptional" (exceptional mixing, exceptional structuring, etc.). My current system essentially involves starting everyone off with a perfect score, and taking away points for things I actively have a problem with, which tends to inflate the scores a bit compared to other judges. At this stage of the competition, I think the new system would be more practical. I'm sorry I made it all about "my desire to be as tough as the other judges," which was misguided of me.

That said, I'm still inclined to switch systems, but if people think that's unfair, even with the transparency I'm attempting to convey, then I'll abstain.


"Reflect on your evils, lest they reflect on you." ~A Magic card lol --- Formerly "TheDoor6"

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Response to N G A D M 2017 - Round of 32 2017-07-17 12:24:05


At 7/17/17 12:11 PM, TaintedLogic wrote: That said, I'm still inclined to switch systems, but if people think that's unfair, even with the transparency I'm attempting to convey, then I'll abstain.

Just do you, man. Be yourself. That's my advice.

Obviously, I personally feel that you have solid judgment, or I wouldn't have - oh, I don't know - asked you to be a judge!
Not to mention my Co-Master of Ceremonies. Both of which you've been doing a phenomenal job with, imho.