At 2/5/13 01:27 AM, Xenomit wrote:
Again, you can't compare art to music, especially if the musician is a rapper.
Yes you can. You tried to draw a line between music and visual art by saying there was "basic rules" to make music. Which is, by your logic false... since you said that if there is an artistical goal, than it is art de facto. And since when did visual art get the exclusivity on the word art ?
You also admitted earlier when DelRio used that example that somebody farting in a microphone would count as music. Start making sense or make-up your mind.
This is the same shit we are talking about. Cinema, theatre, music, painting, sculpture, dance. Those are all art forms, and there is a shitty commercial version of everysingle of these art forms. Visual art isn't any different then the others.
At 2/5/13 01:32 AM, Lintire wrote:
At 2/5/13 01:13 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:
Meaning art would be broken down to a kind of metaphysical democratic opinion ?Always has been.
So popularity calculates quality ? Keep your calculative rationality out of arts will you ?
For example, on Newgrounds consensus is measured via votes, and the audience heavily favors sexual art. Therefore, on Newgrounds, an animu anthropomorphic pony is considered Good Art. If said art piece was submitted to an audience like cghub, it would be considered less then that.
So cultural relitivism. I disagree. Especially considering how new forms of art would always count as shit until people actually learn what it means and what is. According to your logic, you cannot educate a community to help them get the tools to appreciate a piece of art, for they are absolutely and definitively right with their own closed-minds.
Bias changes with audience, audience changes with location. What is considered "Good" is heavily fluid. But it still exists, and relies on collective opinion.
Then pop artists are better because they have more fans ? Can't you find a way to consider social reality and history and the impact these have on popularity ? You're approach isn't horrible, but it is very conservative.
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