At 12/20/12 02:49 AM, Xenomit wrote:
At 12/20/12 02:43 AM, Sentio wrote:
1) We aren't talking about animalsYou're denying that humans are animals?
Oh come on, that is just being pedantic for the sake of it. You know full well the point I was trying to make.
Actually, much of the gun violence tends to be domestic problems, namely bad parenting.
There is plenty of that here in the UK though. Still very little gun violence. I'd suggest that people from difficult backgrounds here are more self destructive than mass destructive.
Many situations are harder to deal with than others.
Think of a highschool. It has an open campus, and students are allowed to leave during breaks and lunch, but because 10% of the kids that drive have wrecks, they close open campus. It allows drinks to be taken to class, but because a few kids decide to sneak vodka in, they ban drinks.
The mistakes of the few should not and will not reflect on the mass of the people.
Unfortunately the mistakes of those few can have far reaching consequences on the mass of the people though. Just ask the families of the innocent victims of Sandy Hook. If I were one of the sensible masses I would still want something done to prevent further killing sprees like this. At least we can agree that attempting to change the gun culture is a better idea than trying to restrict guns.
At 12/20/12 09:28 AM, 24901miles wrote:
If the teachers at Sandy Hook Elementary School were allowed to carry firearms, there would be only two casualties.
Confident of that are you? You know that the teachers would want to shoot another human being, and wouldn't miss? You know that the gunman wouldn't shoot them first? It's possible that there would have been as few as two victims. It is also possible that there would still have been 27.
Arming teachers still really bothers me. I just don't see how someone who's job description is to help and look after people can do that and then willingly kill someone else. Especially if that someone was a student that they taught. If it were me, even if a student was pointing a gun at me my reaction would be to try and talk them down, not shoot them. You are just too emotionally involved to kill them.
A better idea would be armed security rather than armed teachers. At least shooting to kill would be a legitimate part of their job description.