At 12/12/12 10:34 AM, Earfetish wrote:
Instead of criticising the discourse, why not stick to the subject and discuss whether or not a reasonable person could infer that the NT contains reference to aliens? To be honest, I reckon trying to twist that NT passage into a claim that Jesus knows about aliens is a hard sell, too. That line is almost throwaway and has nought to do with the central point of the parable.
Here's the main point Ear...
In the 19th century there was a theological discussion as to whether or not Jesus came over here. As cultural interchanges with Mesoamerican cultures occured, theories began to abound about whether or not Gods like Quatzequatel was in fact Jesus.
So people were looking for signs of Christ over here. One of the passages cited was the one I cited...that Jesus would bring other sheep into the fold. Not only did he bring the Gentiles of the known world...but why couldn't a man who turns blood into wine and come back to life three days after crucifiction also visit Native Americans?
Remember, faith in Jesus requires faith in a supernatural being who possesses supernatural powers.
But the point is this: Mormonism (along with a few other sects that died out) is an authentically American religion that expanded Christian belief to incorporate an expanding view of the world.
Now, if someone proved that there was alien life Christianity would have to either adjust or wither...just like the expansion of our knowledge of the world with the discover of two new continents led to Mormons through new interpretations of scripture.
Finally, I am agnostic...but I'm an all in or all out kind of agnostic. If God exists and Christ is His son...then we are talking about beings with incredible power. This means several things:
1) He'd have knowledge of all life in the universe.
2) He'd speak in parables that people of the day could understand, hence he would not come out and say "and also sheep on other planets". That would confuse the hell out of His followers.
So no...I don't think that it is all that much of a stretch to see how this single verse could include aliens. Afterall, it is just one more fold.