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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-28 11:09:00 Reply

At 10/28/12 07:34 AM, Jolly wrote: It might get more support soon, with Steam coming out for Linux.
The beta survey came out today:
http://www.valvesoftware.com/linuxsurvey.php

Yea, Linux popularity definitely seems to be on the increase. I hear more people speaking about Linux now than I did a few years back. I'm a computer science student though, so it's probably more common for the people I'm around to be using Linux than it would be if I were around day to day users. Steam support would definitely be a good start in bringing more game developers to Linux.

I filled out that survey.


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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-28 14:45:56 Reply

At 10/28/12 09:15 AM, Rummy0 wrote: Windows 8 is about as useful as a Mac, you're only going to like it if you think Angry Birds and Cut The Rope are the pinnacle of PC gaming.
Windows is trying too hard to appeal to the mac userbase without having anything to sell to them, they don't even have the appropriate brand image, they're abandoning their main userbase and trying to gain one that wouldn't want to be seen dead with it.

PC and pretty much all electronic usage is being more and more mainstream. Once that happens they have to make sure it appeals to everyone. Microsoft is just trying to stop Apple from running all over them. I haven't tried Windows 8 yet so I can't comment on how well it works or not.


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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-28 14:47:29 Reply

At 10/28/12 02:45 PM, Cootie wrote: Microsoft is just trying to stop Apple from running all over them

If thats what Apple is trying to do, theyre not doing a very good job.

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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-28 15:01:53 Reply

Everytime a Windows thread comes out
Linux hipsters shake there shit around and put it down our throats


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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-28 15:53:38 Reply

At 10/28/12 09:40 AM, wildfire4461 wrote:
At 10/26/12 10:32 PM, Jolly wrote:

Here's a pic of the store. I doubt I'll be downloading from it much. So far everything I've downloaded has opened full screen in metro. Not good for mult-tasking. I don't think many people will use it much.
You have to download Pinball and Minesweeper for it?

Yes. I think the Microsoft version is gone.

At 10/28/12 10:39 AM, Tremulos wrote:
At 10/28/12 08:15 AM, Sword-of-Kings wrote: Paying to be able to play DVDs is bullshit.
It seems to me that while Windows Media Center costs money, you can still just download VLC Player, pop in a DVD and watch it.

VLC is a lot better anyway.

At 10/28/12 03:29 PM, BigBadtheBazz wrote: I heard that windows 8 is bad for indie developers. is this true? is it completely closed like I have heard?

It's not completely closed. You can still download stuff that isn't on the app store. And I wouldn't say the metro app store is bad for indie game makers at all. I'd say it's a better for indie game makers. The iOS app store isn't bad for indie game makers, is it? This is the same thing.

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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-28 15:55:02 Reply

Installed fast, looks great, kept all my old programs and files. I can't complain and I don't see it being a problem once you are accustomed to it.


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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-28 16:02:25 Reply

At 10/28/12 03:53 PM, Jolly wrote: The iOS app store isn't bad for indie game makers, is it?

Actually, it is.

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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-28 16:20:34 Reply

At 10/28/12 04:02 PM, BumFodder wrote:
At 10/28/12 03:53 PM, Jolly wrote: The iOS app store isn't bad for indie game makers, is it?
Actually, it is.

How? Doesn't everybody have a pretty equal chance of getting a lot of sales?

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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-28 16:36:07 Reply

Okay, so I just solved the Minecraft performance problem by changing the notebook bios setting from switchable graphics to discrete graphics mode.

Chances are that updating the bios could help get switchable graphics working again.

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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-28 21:04:14 Reply

A lot of people have commented that Windows 8 has ruined the old "Windows" feel. There's no this, no that. The layout is mainly suited for touchscreen, but a lot of people still use the traditional mouse and keyboard.

I quite doubt I'll ever buy Windows 8, as Windows 7 is fine for me, being a big step from crappy Vista.

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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-29 04:53:49 Reply

Hey, It appears that Microsoft hasn't (completely) gotten rid of the classic start menu after all...

Link.

Chances are that if Windows 8 turns out to be another "bad" release, then they might put back the old start menu in Windows 9 (or whatever they decide to call it).

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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-29 05:40:32 Reply

At 10/29/12 04:53 AM, Painbringer wrote: Hey, It appears that Microsoft hasn't (completely) gotten rid of the classic start menu after all...

Link.

Chances are that if Windows 8 turns out to be another "bad" release, then they might put back the old start menu in Windows 9 (or whatever they decide to call it).

How can anybody prefer that over the new metro start menu?

The metro start menu is so much better than the previous start menu. I think most people dislike it just because they can't deal with change. There are bad things about metro.. but as a start menu it's much better.

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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-29 12:11:26 Reply

At 10/29/12 10:55 AM, MikeyS9607 wrote: 40 EURO! Holy shit that's cheap. I might actually get it. Is it compatible with like Steam and shit?

Might want to hold back on that...
Gabe Newell expressed his hate for Windows 8. Hell, I couldn't find anything good to hear from the professional game developers about Windows 8.

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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-29 12:13:41 Reply

The only thing I can't possibly criticize is having to go to desktop mode in internet explorer to view certain flash content, and this affects newgrounds. The flash movies load fine, but the audio portal requires desktop mode. I wonder if there is a way newgrounds can fix this since your flash movies are not affected.


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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-31 03:52:21 Reply

One great thing about Windows 8 I discovered is that all my old 32-bit Windows 95/98 games run a lot better and without any of the old problems (bad colors, game crashes, fast scroll rate, etc) from previous Windows versions.

Sadly, my 16-bit Windows 95 and older games are still unsupported on a 64-bit OS.

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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-31 04:02:11 Reply

At 10/29/12 12:11 PM, RyanBustersword123 wrote:
At 10/29/12 10:55 AM, MikeyS9607 wrote: 40 EURO! Holy shit that's cheap. I might actually get it. Is it compatible with like Steam and shit?
Might want to hold back on that...
Gabe Newell expressed his hate for Windows 8. Hell, I couldn't find anything good to hear from the professional game developers about Windows 8.

It's basically a store for mobile apps that are also compatible with desktop/laptop computers. Most people probably aren't going to want to use the metro apps on their PCs. I don't think it's going to affect the PC gaming market much at all.

At 10/31/12 03:52 AM, Painbringer wrote: Sadly, my 16-bit Windows 95 and older games are still unsupported on a 64-bit OS.

Have you tried using compatibility mode?

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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-31 04:07:08 Reply

At 10/29/12 10:55 AM, MikeyS9607 wrote: 40 EURO! Holy shit that's cheap. I might actually get it. Is it compatible with like Steam and shit?

The only thing I've had problems with is Skype. Steam works perfectly fine on Windows 8. There's some minor issues with some programs and games but they aren't too big. I haven't been able to get on Skype on Windows 8 and Amnesia froze up a few times. Everything else has worked perfectly fine. It'll work better once it's been out a bit longer.

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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-31 04:21:48 Reply

At 10/31/12 04:02 AM, Jolly wrote: Have you tried using compatibility mode?

Do you take me for an idiot???

No amount of compatibility mode can make Castle of the Winds or SimCopter install/run in 64-bit Windows.

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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-31 05:52:32 Reply

I'm sure if Windows doesn't bring back the Start menu, a third party developer will.

I've had to use a program named Classic Shell in order to obtain a "Classic" start menu, which Windows 7 doesn't have.

So personally I'm not too worried for the time being.
Vista is also still being supported right? :P

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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-31 05:53:37 Reply

Sorry, for the double post, but this is the aforementioned start menu that I prefer...

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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-31 06:20:56 Reply

At 10/31/12 04:21 AM, Painbringer wrote:
At 10/31/12 04:02 AM, Jolly wrote: Have you tried using compatibility mode?
Do you take me for an idiot???

No amount of compatibility mode can make Castle of the Winds or SimCopter install/run in 64-bit Windows.

Have you tried DosBOX? It basically emulates a 16-bit dos machine on a 64-bit pc.
I just used it yesterday to play Wolfenstien3d and Doom on my 64bit laptop and they worked like a charm, even with fullscreen. I read it works on Windows 8 too.

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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-31 06:28:32 Reply

At 10/31/12 06:20 AM, RyanBustersword123 wrote: Have you tried DosBOX?

YES!!!

YOU CANNOT INSTALL WINDOWS GAMES IN DOS MODE.

Grrr.

And yes, DOSbox is a godsend for all my old DOS based games - I just wish there was something like that for Windows games.

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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-31 14:22:50 Reply

Wait... Windows 8 doesn't have a start menu? Can someone explain this to me? It sounds like an absolutely horrible idea on Microsoft's part. How are we expected to open programs? Don't tell me Windows 8 users are expected to pin any programs they use to the taskbar or make shortcuts for them in the desktop or something? And how do you shut down/log out/etc?


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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-31 14:49:30 Reply

Running XP atm on a second hand Compaq Presario SR1000.

Not a single BSoD or issue with games like SC2/Shogun 2:TW etc.

However, once Littlewoods and Acer fix their shit and deliver my new PC (this one is a little aged after all) I'll be runnign Windows 8 (comes with the pc) on mah nuh Acer Aspire XC Intel Core i5

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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-31 14:51:19 Reply

At 10/31/12 02:22 PM, Step wrote: Wait... Windows 8 doesn't have a start menu? wahwahwah

Move your mouse to the corner brah....


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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-31 14:56:44 Reply

I wouldn't install Windows on my machine if you paid me to.


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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-31 16:06:08 Reply

At 10/31/12 02:51 PM, SkeletonGimp wrote: Move your mouse to the corner brah....

I don't have Windows 8 and I don't plan on getting it. Just curious.

At 10/31/12 03:44 PM, EJR wrote: When you press the Windows key or drag your cursor to the bottom left corner of your screen + click you get taken to a tile interface that you find on their phones and such. It's actually really cool. There's a desktop option if you want to use windows classically, but then the rest of the tiles could be programs, apps, widgets, you name it. It essentially replaces the start menu and adds a lot more on to it. To find programs that aren't on your taskbar or in the tile interface you have to right click the tile interface and press the option "all apps" and it brings you to another listing; alternatively you could just start typing the name of the app or program from the interface and it'll find it immediately.

This is my dashboard. I've customized it so everything I regularly use is first and widgets take up the next few columns. I really like it. Everything feels so smooth and clean. The Music app is horrendous so I'm still sticking to Spotify for my music playback.

http://www.newgrounds.com/dump/item/e4fb94d9ebced3c49695ad85 b74b7a53

That actually looks really tacky and unnecessary. It opens up a whole new window just for the user to choose what program to run? That seems pretty ridiculous. Also the start menu makes a distinction between recently used programs, programs that you pin to it, and the Control Panel/My Computer, etc... by placing them in their own lists. That interface doesn't look like it makes the distinction and just throws everything as an assortment of pictures (of course this is just an educated guess, I haven't actually tried the thing myself).

Frankly to me it looks like a transition from a mobile OS to a desktop OS that went horribly wrong. That kind of interface may work well for a mobile, but taking the start menu away for desktop users too is a bad idea that just doesn't seem to work as well with a keyboard and mouse and will just cause lots of people to try and get accustomed to it when the start menu worked so well before. In my opinion, of course.


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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-31 17:02:32 Reply

Id rather just browse my files normally through explorer rather than use the silly new start thing.

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Response to Official Windows 8 Launch Thread 2012-10-31 17:08:05 Reply

The new computer that's coming with it will come with it. It's basically 7 with some addons, so I don't mind.

:Shit, no Start Button???


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