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Response to Audio Scouting 2012-09-24 06:38:52

At 9/23/12 12:57 AM, Back-From-Purgatory wrote: If you were approved before the scouting system was put into place, the person that approved you will count as your scouter.

I was scouted by A-Bot <3

Where does it say who you scouted and who scouted you?

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Response to Audio Scouting 2012-09-28 22:09:03

How long does it generally take to get scouted? The system seems like it's going to be terribly inefficient. Does everyone show up on the list? I just joined today and uploaded a song so I know it might take a bit, I'm just curious.

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Response to Audio Scouting 2012-09-28 22:39:18

At 9/28/12 10:23 PM, Computer112 wrote: sorry, forgot the pic.

http://i50.tinypic.com/1536x4p.jpg

I've been using THIS LINK to browse through unscouted audio artists...

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Response to Audio Scouting 2012-09-28 22:43:49

At 9/28/12 10:39 PM, BrokenDeck wrote:
At 9/28/12 10:23 PM, Computer112 wrote: sorry, forgot the pic.

http://i50.tinypic.com/1536x4p.jpg
I've been using THIS LINK to browse through unscouted audio artists...

I checked that link to see if I was on there but I never did see myself.

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Response to Audio Scouting 2012-09-28 23:30:29

At 9/28/12 10:43 PM, BFeltMusic wrote:
I checked that link to see if I was on there but I never did see myself.

You can't see unscouted artists because you yourself are not scouted.

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Response to Audio Scouting 2012-09-29 00:38:50

At 9/28/12 11:30 PM, BrokenDeck wrote:
At 9/28/12 10:43 PM, BFeltMusic wrote:
I checked that link to see if I was on there but I never did see myself.
You can't see unscouted artists because you yourself are not scouted.

I can see people on the link you posted.

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Response to Audio Scouting 2012-09-29 09:21:15

How do you even know if you've been scouted? I'm really confused about this...

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Response to Audio Scouting 2012-09-29 15:22:50

At 9/29/12 12:51 PM, Computer112 wrote:
At 9/28/12 11:30 PM, BrokenDeck wrote:
At 9/28/12 10:43 PM, BFeltMusic wrote:
I checked that link to see if I was on there but I never did see myself.
You can't see unscouted artists because you yourself are not scouted.
He's really not on it. The system is not running, for sure. I can confirm this.

This whole system is wonky...

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Response to Audio Scouting 2012-10-11 14:32:16

Time for a friendly inquiry/criticism/rant. The "recommended artists" list as it now stands is:

- a user with 13 recommendations, whose latest submission has 3 individual people claiming to have scouted him
- a user with 6 recommendations whose only submission is a timestretched vocal sample
- a hip hop person, all of the submissions are collabs with sketchy descriptions
- a person who has been credited on a popular submission from 2011
- someone who only uses only garageband loops
- dubstep
- a voice actor (that I scouted)
- dubstep from a troll account
- dubstep
- chiptune from a troll account

so as many people have mentioned, a report button would help prevent these from staying on the top until some dumbass scouts the garageband loop person or the troll accounts for example. I know who the audio mods are so I can just skype them or PM them of course, but I'm just not dedicated enough to do that each time, sorry.

And many of these have submissions from several months ago. Like this guy on the top of the "total submissions list" has submissions from 2007 all the way to 2011, but nothing after that. Were they banned earlier? Should I scout them if I can't find anything wrong with them or should I just not bother? The whole system is buggy and erratic as hell from my experience with it, so I don't know.

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Response to Audio Scouting 2012-10-12 01:09:29

Hi there. I myself have just joined newgrounds a few days ago and published my own audio 2 days ago. I am still unscouted for now, but even then my audio did not show up when I look at the list of audio submissions by unscouted artists. Is there a problem with the system concerning audio submissions by unscouted artists such as myself? If yes, then how are we supposed to get scouted then?

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Response to Audio Scouting 2012-10-12 15:46:51

At 10/12/12 02:39 PM, Computer112 wrote: But look like this works
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/member/unscouted_list/recent ly-submitted

I can assure that this list is well and truly broken. I can see from my other (verified) account . I submitted a track on the 29th of September '12 and didn't even show up on first page of this list. I was pushed way back to page 5. Newgrounds claims that I uploaded that track on "11/30/-1" which makes no sense at all.NG also claims that all submissions that have glitched out in the same fashion have been recommended by atleast 1 user, no less.

http://diascr.info/i/3d813.png

I've had no verification message about being scouted, so it's definitely broken.

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Response to Audio Scouting 2012-10-12 15:47:01

At 10/12/12 02:39 PM, Computer112 wrote:
I went further down and found like a ton of them use loops, vocals or MIDI rips.

Please report any you find in the cleanup thread, and the audio mods will have a look :)

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Response to Audio Scouting 2012-10-12 16:07:35

At 9/23/12 12:57 AM, Back-From-Purgatory wrote: If you were approved before the scouting system was put into place, the person that approved you will count as your scouter.

I was scouted by A-Bot <3

If last December was before the system was introduced, then this was probably how I was scouted. ^^

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Response to Audio Scouting 2012-10-12 18:03:24

I looked at the unscouted list. Clicked on a profile. Listented to the track. I could see effort put into it...

SO I SCOUTED THAT SHIT UP!

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Response to Audio Scouting 2012-10-12 19:46:21

At 9/11/12 07:33 PM, Bafana wrote: When I can't think of anything other than why is this person skull fucking me with copyright material and/or aural rape I was quick to give up.

LOOOL

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Response to Audio Scouting 2012-10-13 15:52:15

I'm new here, just signed up a couple weeks ago. I'd appreciate it if someone could take a look at my music. I'd really like to get scouted so I can be more involved with this community.

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Response to Audio Scouting 2012-10-19 01:38:05

I'm new here as well, I would really appreciate If some one could take the time and check out my stuff. I would like to be scouted so I can have my music rated. Please and thank you.

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Response to Audio Scouting 2012-10-19 01:50:07

Guys, this thread is not for begging to be scouted. If you want to be scouted, make good music, be active in the community, and make use of the threads linked below:

Audio Advertisement thread.

Work in Progress Advice Thread.

Review Request Club.


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Response to Audio Scouting 2012-12-26 04:38:59

Hey guys!

I submitted my demo reel in the "Voice Acting" category earlier this month and it's still not displayed on the audio portal. I was scouted by someone who was kind enough to do so, but is it a requirement to be scouted multiple times before your eligible for listing?

Thank you to anyone in advance who can help me.

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Response to Audio Scouting 2013-01-05 17:29:22

Okay, I've had my stuff up on there now for ages, and no one (as far as I know) has scouted me, but my friend said he has; but it hasn't given me any prompt to confirm it; so I remain unscouted....


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Response to Audio Scouting 2013-01-05 20:59:26

Back in the day when I got scouted I didn't know any of this. I was sitting on my ass for a month and a halve, uploading music every week, when I suddenly got a PM with a list of people willing to scout me. I wanted to accept them all, but after the first one I was immediately scouted. I didn't even know what was going on. I wish there was a way to see who scouted me. I also wonder who the other people were who I didn't accept. A list of people who you scouted is also a good idea.

At 9/11/12 10:57 AM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: when a new breakout artist comes along, one of you guys will have the bragging rights of being the user that scouted them.

You WILL be accountable for who you scout, however. If you invite a bunch of blatant rule breakers, or people simply submitting complete shit, the moderators can not only ban you, they can prune your membership.

If my actions can cost others their membership and others mine, I'd like to have an overview of who scouted me, who I've scouted and who they scout.


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Response to Audio Scouting 2013-01-05 21:27:42

Friendly reminder to everyone to be careful with whom you scout. Scouting an artist with multiple blatant copyright infringements, for example, is not recommended. ;)

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Response to Audio Scouting 2013-01-06 19:46:34

I can't seem to view the list of the unscouted audio artists,
I keep getting an error saying I don't have permission to view this page.


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Response to Audio Scouting 2013-01-06 20:33:44

At 1/6/13 07:46 PM, Mattashi wrote: I can't seem to view the list of the unscouted audio artists,
I keep getting an error saying I don't have permission to view this page.

That is because YOU are not scouted yet. You have to be scouted in order to scout someone else.

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Response to Audio Scouting 2013-01-08 11:49:28

At 1/5/13 08:59 PM, SourJovis wrote: Back in the day when I got scouted I didn't know any of this. I was sitting on my ass for a month and a halve, uploading music every week, when I suddenly got a PM with a list of people willing to scout me. I wanted to accept them all, but after the first one I was immediately scouted. I didn't even know what was going on. I wish there was a way to see who scouted me. I also wonder who the other people were who I didn't accept. A list of people who you scouted is also a good idea.

Same, I waited for a while and until I found out how the system work these confusions had been giving me hard times to navigate around and just to understand the nature of Newgrounds.

If my actions can cost others their membership and others mine, I'd like to have an overview of who scouted me, who I've scouted and who they scout.

This scouting action is costly. Although I'm new around here but I can see the dangers this method. There is little or no way to find out who actually owns the submission. They rip it from somewhere unknown to rest of world then submit up here legitimately by changed song title. This unlikely will encourage other people to do the community works.

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Response to Audio Scouting 2013-01-28 17:27:05

How many scouts does an audio submission need before you can see it on the audio portal?


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Response to Audio Scouting 2013-01-28 17:35:16

i would really love to start scouting people.. but i'm scared to because i wouldn't want to scout someone for the one track they had, and then they make another one later on that sucks and i get the blame for it o.o


rules aren't what keep me in abidance.

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Response to Audio Scouting 2013-01-28 17:49:29

At 1/28/13 05:35 PM, DoxOfficial wrote: i would really love to start scouting people.. but i'm scared to because i wouldn't want to scout someone for the one track they had, and then they make another one later on that sucks and i get the blame for it o.o

You wouldn't get the blame for someone doing terrible, they should get the blame if anything. Though I never really knew about this system so I'm going to start scouting here and there when I'm absolutely bored.

I'm more worried about if say they steal a track and I had no idea, would I get penalized for that? Personally I don't have time to background check all the people that submit to the portal, though if I know the track was stolen I'll report the Artist straight away.

This is an awesome, and innovative system (in my honest opinion, of course.)


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Response to Audio Scouting 2013-01-28 17:57:38

At 1/28/13 05:27 PM, zombiefy1 wrote: How many scouts does an audio submission need before you can see it on the audio portal?

The submission isn't scouted, the artist (I.E. your account) is. And it only takes 1.

At 1/28/13 05:49 PM, Chemich wrote: I'm more worried about if say they steal a track and I had no idea, would I get penalized for that?

We generally don't go after the scouters unless it's clear they're just scouting anything and everything without giving a damn about quality. Or if it's clear they're scouting rule breaking submissions on purpose.

If we find someone who's uploading stolen stuff that you have scouted, we'd likely just unscout the person (As well as remove any rule breaking submissions of course) and leave you be.


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Response to Audio Scouting 2013-01-28 17:58:57

At 1/28/13 05:27 PM, zombiefy1 wrote: How many scouts does an audio submission need before you can see it on the audio portal?

None. Audio submissions themselves can't be scouted, It's the artis who has to be scouted, and consequently accept the scout (only once). After that all of the scouted artist's songs will be displayed in the audio portal.

At 1/28/13 05:35 PM, DoxOfficial wrote: i would really love to start scouting people.. but i'm scared to because i wouldn't want to scout someone for the one track they had, and then they make another one later on that sucks and i get the blame for it o.o

Only moderators can see who scouted who. Users can't, so you'll get neither credit nor blame for anything. The only way a scout could bite you in the ass is when someone you've scouted violate the regulations, not because they make bad songs.


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