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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-15 01:11:22 Reply

  • Stuck (Entry for RAC7)
    Stuck (Entry for RAC7) by adilovemetal

    My Entry for RAC 7 representing Finland. METAL :D

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My submission, IMPROVED :D

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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-15 12:19:56 Reply

At 9/5/12 04:02 PM, DivoFST wrote: My entry for Portugal
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/501804

All entries have been updated. Tomorrow is the deadline! Make sure you get your entries in.

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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-15 12:23:09 Reply

At 9/15/12 12:19 PM, NeonProject wrote:
At 9/5/12 04:02 PM, DivoFST wrote: My entry for Portugal
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/501804
All entries have been updated. Tomorrow is the deadline! Make sure you get your entries in.

Speaking of which, I am dying to hear HFX's take on the Vatican...
and speaking of submissions, there are some submissions for which you didn't link to the actual song; you linked to our userpages instead. D:

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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-15 14:41:30 Reply

Entry for Mongolia

  • Urtyn Duu
    Urtyn Duu by JJM121

    Entry for RAC 7

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References: Mongolian Music 1 and the rest of that series upto 8 and also other videos.

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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-15 15:45:37 Reply

good luck peeps :)

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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-16 10:38:18 Reply

At 9/16/12 05:42 AM, Criminal-23 wrote: I know I have to vote on the top 10 songs that are, IMO, the best out of all the RAC songs, but the question is...

Where do I put the voting results? In reviews, on this thread or via PM to NeonProject? I don't want to put my voting results in the wrong place.

And speaking of voting, does the voting score work like 2/24, 16/24, 20/24, etc? I don't see what the max score is. Your explanation doesn't give me any answers to what I need to know RIGHT NOW.

Agree. The scoring is hard to understand and practically apply on, fairly. Saying of voting fairly, I bet those who are the regular, well-known or both can gain the upper hands than those who's new around here.

If it is true that other composers vote each other base on respect. This contest should focus on emotional competition, not music competition.

After all I join because I want to have some fun, not serious about competition, but please treat the serious one in a fair way.

Good day.


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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-16 12:35:56 Reply

At 9/16/12 10:38 AM, Wurfel-Waffles wrote:
At 9/16/12 05:42 AM, Criminal-23 wrote: I know I have to vote on the top 10 songs that are, IMO, the best out of all the RAC songs, but the question is...

Where do I put the voting results? In reviews, on this thread or via PM to NeonProject? I don't want to put my voting results in the wrong place.

And speaking of voting, does the voting score work like 2/24, 16/24, 20/24, etc? I don't see what the max score is. Your explanation doesn't give me any answers to what I need to know RIGHT NOW.

I think it works the same way the Eurovision contest works, you give the points by that order to the submissions you like the most, for example since we have points until the 10º entry you will vote on the submission you liked the most until you run out of points to give. You should give 24 points to your favourite, 20 to your second favourite, 16 to the third and so on until you reach the 2 points for your 10º favourite, the rest won't get any points from you because there are only points for your 10 favourite songs.
The place to post the votes i dont know as well.
Good luck everyone!


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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-16 12:47:51 Reply

We need NeonProject to answer, with regards to the place to vote....

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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-16 22:54:45 Reply

well... the scoring mojo is really a pain... even I didnt understand it... I hope NeonProject answers ASAP
btw, what would be your favorite Drum Sampling software? Anyone?

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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-17 08:40:21 Reply

The voting works like this.

Everyone now votes for their top 10, they get 24, 20, 16, 14, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4 and 2 points.

The jury combine results also result in a top 10 with the same points.
These points are combined with each participants top 10 and acts as a quality control filter.

During results week the single results (combined entrant and jury) by each entrant will be posted.

You vote by sending me a PM,
I'll send everyone a PM to make sure they vote.

People who do not vote will be disqualified.

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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-17 14:13:23 Reply

People, I would like to add my 2 cents.
NeonProject, you, yes; read my shit.

I just made a small mistake reviewing on Samulis' piece. And I saw bunch of other comment on ForeverBound piece. People need to think less genetic and more dynamic about the song style/genre, not the traditional stuff only.

Such as z-raven's piece, many of you listened might think of 'shit it's not Russian music' because your head was thinking about traditional music, not the genres (Russian progressive trance) that actually formed in Russia/Slavic-country. Aren't this genre also can represent Russian music too?

When I finished to write a review on Samulis' piece, I had a jump that his song is actually truly representing Ireland, not through the generic folk music but through the motif, chords... and spirits of Ireland music. Whoever ranked ForeverBound song should rethink about their reviews.

This post, also,is a defense for my own entry. Because it is based on Persian electronic formed by oversea/exiled Persians.


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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-17 18:45:37 Reply

At 9/17/12 06:14 PM, Computer112 wrote:
At 9/17/12 02:13 PM, Wurfel-Waffles wrote: People, I would like to add my 2 cents.
NeonProject, you, yes; read my shit.
People need to think less genetic and more dynamic about the song style/genre, not the traditional stuff only.
This, a 100% this. I dropped out for the same reason. Well, nice that you apologize to Samulis too. lol

Actually i dont agree, i think each person that has submited a song to this contest has at least the obligation to read the description and check the bands/songs that inspired the piece, and only after doing that they should vote. If even doing that does not make the voter feel like the country was very present in the song i think they have to right to remove some points to it, its a personal opinion after all, for a detailed one we have the judges.
Personally i gave 50% to how i liked the song (my personal touch) , 20% at how it reminded me of the country (becoming my votes fair for the contest) , 20% to how well composed it was (becpming my votes fair for the composer) and 10% to other multiple items...it was my system for voting and i think it was quite fair.
Samulis case i must say is the most critical one because he has written what i found an absolutly beautifull piece, but like i said it didnt gave me an Irish feeling like for example Bosa gave me the American one with his piece, i dropped Samulis a place or 2 because he didnt do as well in those 20% about the country.
The thing i dont think is very fair is the Promotion bit, it just makes it even harder for newcomers to try and compete with the "big sharks".
Sorry about the long post....i have too much free time xD


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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-17 20:26:18 Reply

Dude first of all calm down...i did not offended you in any way and you came out shooting in all directions...
If everyone would bother as much as me with the submissions i would be very happy...and yes i did some research about them and i do care with the RAC enough to listen to most submissions at least 3 times.
I guess you are saying that every submission should have maximum score because there are surely some influence somewhere and since your personal opinion should not count at all lets all have a giant tie eh?
PS: I liked the russian submission, you were the one bringing it to the table...


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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-17 20:58:37 Reply

At 9/17/12 08:46 PM, Computer112 wrote: Alright I'm done with this. Doesn't lead to anywhere.

Very well im not here to make enemies, i can see where why you are frustrated with this but you have no reason whatsoever to be agressive and make wild guesses on how dedicated i was to this contest....and you have been contraditory saying that my submission should be "shoot down like an air balloon", because even though it does not sound super Portuguese i have used influences from Portuguese bands and music styles, and that was the point you were defending all this time...but well i guess you don't bother to even read my description and hear the bands...
If you want to make the rules host your own show...this one is not your responsability.
Im done with the discussion as well...


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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-17 21:35:01 Reply

At 9/17/12 09:24 PM, Computer112 wrote:
At 9/17/12 08:58 PM, DivoFST wrote: because even though it does not sound super Portuguese i have used influences from Portuguese bands and music styles, and that was the point you were defending all this time...but well i guess you don't bother to even read my description and hear the bands...
Funny, you are still trying to use a fucked pothole logic to defend your ways. Saying that doesn't defending what you reviewed. It's a contrary to yours, not mine.

I stand by my reviews...and by the way so that no mistakes are made i don't have anything against all the people that have been refered in this "discussion", Wurfel-Waffles was stating his opinion and i respect that, i like the russian submission by Z-Raven and never said it was a poor representation of Russia and i loved Samulis song, its actually in my top 10.
As for Computer112 i did not come here to make enemies and i hope i didn't...


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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-17 22:32:20 Reply

At 9/17/12 07:51 PM, Computer112 wrote: Don't want a flame, but fuck, anyway.

>Says he doesn't want to start a flamewar
>Starts a flamewar
>States he's done arguing in flamewar he started in the first place

Please tell me more about how you understand the basic principles of having a constructive debate.

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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-17 22:35:05 Reply

At 9/17/12 10:32 PM, camoshark wrote:
At 9/17/12 07:51 PM, Computer112 wrote: Don't want a flame, but fuck, anyway.
>Says he doesn't want to start a flamewar
>Starts a flamewar
>States he's done arguing in flamewar he started in the first place

Please tell me more about how you understand the basic principles of having a constructive debate.

And finally someone arrives...this was like playing chess with a pigeon.


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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-17 23:51:24 Reply

Whatever said and done, just stop it both of u! Dnt u see the whole point of RAC7? its to unite countries wid a common factor, music! Dnt behave like douches and be in the spirit of the contest :( its heartbreaking.
Another thing, about the russian submission, am facing the same dilemma representing finland. Ppl are sayin finland aint metal. Fuck, i aint here to screw around wid traditionalities. Compare my submission "stuck" (which i redid frm scratch, so pls CHECK IT OUT) wid children of bodom or rasmus or watever. Be in a competetive spirit u guys

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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-18 02:16:05 Reply

At 9/17/12 11:51 PM, adilovemetal wrote: Whatever said and done, just stop it both of u! Dnt u see the whole point of RAC7? its to unite countries wid a common factor, music! Dnt behave like douches and be in the spirit of the contest :( its heartbreaking.
Another thing, about the russian submission, am facing the same dilemma representing finland. Ppl are sayin finland aint metal.

At any rate, ALL of our submissions (and I mean ALL) would divert from the fixed traditional forms or even the bands our pieces are based upon.

One only needs to see my reviews to see what I was able to pick out in pieces. Still, guys, this is a music contest based on votes, not a flamethrowing contest. My reviews, however constructive, aren't going to help very much here.

Adi is spot-on here, our common denominator here is music. We might as well keep our flames to ourselves!

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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-18 02:19:50 Reply

At 9/18/12 02:16 AM, TroisNyxEtienne wrote:
At 9/17/12 11:51 PM, adilovemetal wrote: Whatever said and done, just stop it both of u! Dnt u see the whole point of RAC7? its to unite countries wid a common factor, music! Dnt behave like douches and be in the spirit of the contest :( its heartbreaking.
Another thing, about the russian submission, am facing the same dilemma representing finland. Ppl are sayin finland aint metal.
At any rate, ALL of our submissions (and I mean ALL) would divert from the fixed traditional forms or even the bands our pieces are based upon.

One only needs to see my reviews to see what I was able to pick out in pieces. Still, guys, this is a music contest based on votes, not a flamethrowing contest. My reviews, however constructive, aren't going to help very much here.

Adi is spot-on here, our common denominator here is music. We might as well keep our flames to ourselves!

Totally... It's just a music competition...
Well, Best of luck everyone!
I just realised I am the biggest Douche... Only ME in this whole competition has composed a metal piece.. :P I feel so bloody "left out"

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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-18 02:59:16 Reply

Woah, did I just missed something important here?

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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-18 07:36:30 Reply

At 9/18/12 02:59 AM, Yoshiii343 wrote: Woah, did I just missed something important here?

Not really. We're just addressing, in our own terms, someone who started a flame war.

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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-18 09:04:49 Reply

At 9/17/12 11:51 PM, adilovemetal wrote: Whatever said and done, just stop it both of u! Dnt u see the whole point of RAC7?

Dude i do see the whole point of RAC and i apreciate the contest that was why i tried to reason with him, i didnt do it to offend nobody i did it because he was talking trash about the RAC and i felt i should defend it. And i did not start a flame war i just got caught in one xD


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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-18 09:06:56 Reply

At 9/18/12 09:04 AM, DivoFST wrote:
At 9/17/12 11:51 PM, adilovemetal wrote: Whatever said and done, just stop it both of u! Dnt u see the whole point of RAC7?
Dude i do see the whole point of RAC and i apreciate the contest that was why i tried to reason with him, i didnt do it to offend nobody i did it because he was talking trash about the RAC and i felt i should defend it. And i did not start a flame war i just got caught in one xD

I know.... Everyone knows your stance. A lot of us read through the posts thoroughly. Let's not worry about this further, and let's just move on.

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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-18 09:21:48 Reply

At 9/18/12 09:06 AM, TroisNyxEtienne wrote:
At 9/18/12 09:04 AM, DivoFST wrote:
At 9/17/12 11:51 PM, adilovemetal wrote: Whatever said and done, just stop it both of u! Dnt u see the whole point of RAC7?
Dude i do see the whole point of RAC and i apreciate the contest that was why i tried to reason with him, i didnt do it to offend nobody i did it because he was talking trash about the RAC and i felt i should defend it. And i did not start a flame war i just got caught in one xD
I know.... Everyone knows your stance. A lot of us read through the posts thoroughly. Let's not worry about this further, and let's just move on.

Thanks Trois, im just worried that because nobody knows me and this is one of my first contest submissions people would start thinking bad of me.
ill gladly move on i said everything i had to say :D


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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-18 09:48:06 Reply

Glad all is settled :)
P.S- pls check my submission again u guys, re uploaded it ;)

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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-18 11:01:41 Reply

You all are nuts lol. All you have to do in order to win is to find a four leaf clover, pray to God, and cross your fingers. It works every time for me.


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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-18 11:04:31 Reply

Shush little children, behave yourselves.


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Response to Represent A Country 7 [Contest] 2012-09-18 12:11:31 Reply

At 9/17/12 02:13 PM, Wurfel-Waffles wrote: People need to

NeonProject is the only person with any authority here and as far as I know he hasn't told us to use any particular criteria when voting. So fuck that, I'll vote according to my own standards not yours.

And Computer112 I'd feel pretty damn ashamed about the post at the top of this page if I were you. Immature and overall terrible.