At 5/12/12 02:40 AM, ngman7 wrote:

At 5/12/12 02:27 AM, DoctorStrongbad wrote:

At 5/12/12 02:18 AM, TerminalMontage wrote: Batman.

Batman is a homosexual emo. He is not an Avenger.

You're kidding, right?:

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Batman%27s_Love_Interests

You're kidding, right?:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_Batman_fra nchise

I think Thor would be the second strongest.

At 5/6/12 09:28 AM, SolidToad wrote: I'm stuck between Thor and Iron Man. Thor's got strength, and so does Iron Man, but Iron Man can fly, whereas Thor con only jump with his hammer...

Thoughts?

Spider-Man

At 5/12/12 03:37 AM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: I think Thor would be the second strongest.

What roster are we talking about the full one or the current one?

Best Avenger? None- they are too much like Justice League copycats.

At 5/12/12 04:25 AM, ngman7 wrote: Best Avenger? None- they are too much like Justice League copycats.

Nope stan lee came up with the idea first,DC just stole it

At 5/12/12 04:29 AM, beardkiller wrote:

Nope stan lee came up with the idea first,DC just stole it

I agree that DC is full of copycats. Namor came first, Aquaman is a cheap rip off.

At 5/12/12 04:29 AM, beardkiller wrote:

At 5/12/12 04:25 AM, ngman7 wrote: Best Avenger? None- they are too much like Justice League copycats.

Nope stan lee came up with the idea first,DC just stole it

WRONG:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avengers_%28comics%29

The Avengers is a team of superheroes, appearing in magazines published by Marvel Comics. The team made its debut in The Avengers #1 (Sept. 1963), and was created by writer-editor Stan Lee and artist/co-plotter Jack Kirby, following the trend of super-hero teams after the success of DC Comics' Justice League of America.[1]

So stan lee copyed one thing,DC copyed everything else

At 5/12/12 04:36 AM, beardkiller wrote: So stan lee copyed one thing,DC copyed everything else

Wrong again- Marvel has a bunch of Superman knock-offs.

Marvel and DC copy each other- they've been doing that for years.

At 5/12/12 04:38 AM, ngman7 wrote:

At 5/12/12 04:36 AM, beardkiller wrote: So stan lee copyed one thing,DC copyed everything else

Wrong again- Marvel has a bunch of Superman knock-offs.

Marvel and DC copy each other- they've been doing that for years.

So theve been sharing success which means...your arguement is invalid so is mine...but stan lee actualy has some style

The Avengers are the better team.

At 5/12/12 04:18 AM, beardkiller wrote:

At 5/12/12 03:37 AM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: I think Thor would be the second strongest.

What roster are we talking about the full one or the current one?

By the way strongbad you forgot to answer me

At 5/12/12 04:31 AM, DoctorStrongbad wrote:
I agree that DC is full of copycats. Namor came first, Aquaman is a cheap rip off.

The Fantastic Four was inspired in part by DC's Challengers of the Unknown:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avengers_%28comics%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challengers_of_the_Unknown

The Challengers of the Unknown is a group of fictional characters in comic books published by DC Comics. Created by Jack Kirby, or co-created with Dave Wood[1] (sources differ), this quartet of adventurers explored science fictional and apparent paranormal occurrences and faced fantastic menaces.

Scripts for the first stories are often credited to Dick and Dave Wood, two brothers who also wrote other Kirby-illustrated material, such as the "Sky Masters of the Space Force" comic strip; but others have claimed that Kirby created the Challengers himself or together with former partner Joe Simon. The stories had weird menaces, fistfights, wild vehicles and gadgets, spectacular terrain, daring escapes, and a sense of humor.[2]

In addition, elements of this series was later reused by Jack Kirby[3] in collaboration with Stan Lee to create The Fantastic Four which helped establish Marvel Comics as a major competitor in the comic book medium.

DC's Doom Patrol came before Marvel's X-Men.

From wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_Patrol

The first Doom Patrol consisted of super-powered misfits, whose "gifts" caused them alienation and trauma. The series was canceled in 1968, and Drake killed the team off in the final issue, Doom Patrol #121 (SeptemberâEU"October 1968).

And as I said Marvel has a handful of Superman knock-offs: Hyperion, Sentry, Gladiator, and Wonder Man and Blue Marvel.

Night Thrasher and Nighthawk come across as being big Batman knock-offs or rip-offs.

Marvel's Nova is a ripoff of Green Lantern:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_%28comics%29

Green Lantern was first- GL was around since the '40s:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Lantern

They even have a Nova Corps:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_Corps

Marvel's Hawkeye is a cheap knock-off of Green Arrow.

Also, in the DCU, the Dominators were the alien race responsible for giving people the metagene, and they came out in the '60s:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominators

The Celestials were an alien race in the Marvel Universe responsible for giving people the X-gene, and they came out in the late '70s:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celestials

Every Avenger has their own strengths, there is not one best Avenger.