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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-01 18:40:12 Reply

The autopsy report is also to be released soon. As for what the funeral director said, he said there was no signs of a scuffle, but did say he was not a medical practitioner, that it was based only on his experience.

On a tv interview, he also mentioned that he did not see any visible exit wound, which would be strange if shot at point blank range.

link to funeral director report:
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2012/03/28/funeral-director-saw -no-signs-fight-trayvons-hands

There are also news of witnesses supporting both Zimmerman and Martin, and due to the conflicting witnesses, the accountability of witnesses may be dismissed in the case or prolonged before used.

links to both sides:
Martin side:
http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t2#/video/bestoftv/2012/03/
29/ac-trayvon-martin-witness-not-hurt.cnn

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http://www.reddingnewsreview.com/newspages/2012newspages/new _witness_confirms_trayvon_mar_12_1000044.htm
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Both:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120096/Trayvon-Mart in-case-Friend-Zimmerman-identifies-Neighbourhood-Watch-capt ain-screaming-help-911-call.html

The one witness on the Zimmerman side (did not really see anything, just heard)
http://www.newsmax.com/US/zimmerman-trayvon-witness-cnn/2012 /03/29/id/434293
And the other who saw
http://www.wrko.com/node/1149471

There are reports though that the 13 year old witness may be lying since he has messed up in his story through interrogation.

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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-01 20:30:13 Reply

At 4/1/12 05:51 PM, ZXrealm wrote: Link to article is here:

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/01/10963191-trayvo n-martin-case-911-call-screams-not-george-zimmermans-2-exper ts-say

Wow, sure sounds like a credible find. Over 300 voices having over a 99% match. That does not sound like a flawed method of testing at all.


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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-01 21:00:40 Reply

At 4/1/12 08:30 PM, RacistBassist wrote:
At 4/1/12 05:51 PM, ZXrealm wrote: Link to article is here:

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/01/10963191-trayvo n-martin-case-911-call-screams-not-george-zimmermans-2-exper ts-say
Wow, sure sounds like a credible find. Over 300 voices having over a 99% match. That does not sound like a flawed method of testing at all.

The article I posted does not mention what you said, which is " Over 300 voices having over a 99% match".

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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-01 21:00:15 Reply

At 4/1/12 09:00 PM, ZXrealm wrote: The article I posted does not mention what you said, which is " Over 300 voices having over a 99% match".

"I've run it against 300 voices and it was better than 99 percent in all cases," he told MSNBC when asked about its accuracy.
Owen told the newspaper that the software compared the screams to Zimmerman's voice and returned a 48 percent match. He said he would expect a match of higher than 90 percent, considering the quality of the audio.


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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-01 21:04:59 Reply

At 4/1/12 08:30 PM, RacistBassist wrote:
Wow, sure sounds like a credible find. Over 300 voices having over a 99% match. That does not sound like a flawed method of testing at all.

Well he's used it in court so chances are the software works.

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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-01 21:10:32 Reply

At 4/1/12 09:00 PM, RacistBassist wrote:
At 4/1/12 09:00 PM, ZXrealm wrote: The article I posted does not mention what you said, which is " Over 300 voices having over a 99% match".
"I've run it against 300 voices and it was better than 99 percent in all cases," he told MSNBC when asked about its accuracy.
Owen told the newspaper that the software compared the screams to Zimmerman's voice and returned a 48 percent match. He said he would expect a match of higher than 90 percent, considering the quality of the audio.

It means he ran it against 300 voices to see how similar it was to the audio in the phone call. Since the audio quality was bad, that means a good deal of similar voices should match. With Zimmerman's matching a 48% only, that means he is definitively ruled out. The 300 is a benchmark. Because of that, it actually makes it easy to see if Zimmermans voice is plausible. This completely proves it was not him, because it is so easy to enter the 90% range, and even with such a high acceptance rate, Zimmerman's voice couldn't qualify.

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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-01 21:15:19 Reply

At 4/1/12 09:12 PM, AnonymousOfCali wrote:
At 4/1/12 05:51 PM, ZXrealm wrote:
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/01/10963191-trayvo n-martin-case-911-call-screams-not-george-zimmermans-2-exper ts-say
over 300 voices with 99% match
Too bad they will still use it in court

I'll explain in a simpler way.

Audio quality is bad, therefore if your voice is remotely similar, then it will easily match
Because it is so easy to become a match for this voice, it means that if you don't match, your definitively not the owner of the voice in the audio.

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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-01 21:17:57 Reply

At 4/1/12 11:33 AM, RacistBassist wrote:
That guys been behind me on the phone for a block. I better start hitting his head against the ground.

LOL, would make a great flash parody,classic.


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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-01 21:19:37 Reply

At 4/1/12 09:16 PM, AnonymousOfCali wrote:
At 4/1/12 09:15 PM, ZXrealm wrote:
Audio quality is bad, therefore if your voice is remotely similar, then it will easily match
Because it is so easy to become a match for this voice, it means that if you don't match, your definitively not the owner of the voice in the audio.
Using shitty technology to an advantage.

"Tom Owen, of Owen Forensic Services LLC and chair emeritus for the American Board of Recorded Evidence"

He has this as his credentials on audio technology. What do you have?

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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-01 21:29:45 Reply

At 4/1/12 09:17 PM, II2none wrote:
At 4/1/12 11:33 AM, RacistBassist wrote:
That guys been behind me on the phone for a block. I better start hitting his head against the ground.
LOL, would make a great flash parody,classic.

I have an idea involving Skittles fight.


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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-01 21:29:29 Reply

At 4/1/12 05:51 PM, ZXrealm wrote:
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/01/10963191-trayvo n-martin-case-911-call-screams-not-george-zimmermans-2-exper ts-say

The scream comes in around 6:10 In my opinion they do sound like a young mans voice but still thats not enough for me to take a side.....damn I'm starting to hate eye witnesses cases.

Also if he was beating Zimmerman to death why would Treyvon scream for help, is he lookin for a tag team?


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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-01 21:33:22 Reply

At 4/1/12 09:20 PM, AnonymousOfCali wrote:
At 4/1/12 09:19 PM, ZXrealm wrote:
He has this as his credentials on audio technology. What do you have?
A BACHELOR'S IN PHILOSOPHY

You sure seem more of a talker than a thinker.

Since philosophy is your area, I have a question then:

What happens if Pinocchio says "My nose is going to grow!"

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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-01 23:02:18 Reply

if zimmerman was on bottom and he shot trayvon at close range there would be BLOOD ALL OVER ZIMMERMAN


if it is a gigantic horrible typo mah bad

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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-01 23:08:50 Reply

At 4/1/12 11:07 PM, AnonymousOfCali wrote:
At 4/1/12 09:33 PM, ZXrealm wrote:
What happens if Pinocchio says "My nose is going to grow!"
obviously it grows b/c pinnochio isnt a lyin bitch

If he tells the truth it's not suppose to grow, remember?
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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-01 23:12:13 Reply

it is known that martin was slamming zimmermans head into the ground so


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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-01 23:26:46 Reply

At 4/1/12 11:13 PM, Bees wrote:

fuck trayvon martin theres like 100 million other black kids in the goddamn country

Remember this logic if one of your loved ones are killed/dead.


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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-01 23:36:38 Reply

At 4/1/12 11:12 PM, Sanch wrote: it is known that martin was slamming zimmermans head into the ground so

It actually isn't known. Thats only what Zimmerman has said.

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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-01 23:42:42 Reply

At 4/1/12 11:41 PM, Bees wrote:
At 4/1/12 11:26 PM, II2none wrote:
At 4/1/12 11:13 PM, Bees wrote:

fuck trayvon martin theres like 100 million other black kids in the goddamn country
Remember this logic if one of your loved ones are killed/dead.
YOU SURE SHOWED ME

He didn't have to. Your apathy and inhumane words make themselves shine. But I guess this is what desensitzation does to people. Pitiful.

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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-01 23:49:37 Reply

At 4/1/12 11:40 PM, AnonymousOfCali wrote:
At 4/1/12 11:42 PM, ZXrealm wrote:
He didn't have to. Your apathy and inhumane words make themselves shine. But I guess this is what desensitzation does to people. Pitiful.
trayvon marting=gay

Of course, this little part was not simply about Trayvon Martin, but society in general.

And you, I now believe, are an underage troll with problems of fitting into the general cultural group around you and therefore project your hatred online, and not a Bachelor of Philosophy. I will simply ignore you from now on, and I'm sorry if you are not a troll but simply a childish person.

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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-01 23:54:18 Reply

At 4/1/12 11:50 PM, Bees wrote:
also lmao he thought he had a point by comparing trayvon martin (a total DWEEB who never entered my life and never will) to someone i loved dying.

Case and point. No need help from someone else.

Apathy = The lack of Empathy

That's all I have to say to you at this point.

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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-02 00:00:30 Reply

I'm not necessarily on Zimmerman's side, but does anyone else find it disgusting that anyone who even considers Trayvon might have been partially responsible is shot down as a racist?


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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-02 00:06:04 Reply

Sadly, this thread has been taken over by trolls.


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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-02 00:06:56 Reply

At 4/2/12 12:06 AM, dlxrevolution wrote: Sadly, this thread has been taken over by trolls.

There's a fine line between trolling and stupidity.


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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-02 01:43:10 Reply

Some kid got shot. Big fucking deal. Happens all the time. Move on you bleeding heart human interest idiots.


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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-02 13:02:00 Reply

Don't you know how dangerous Skittles can be? There was probably a knife in the bag.

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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-02 13:05:31 Reply

To be 100% honest, I think it's COMPLETELY overrated. Hundreds of people die everyday, in every way. Why put so much attention one this one kid?


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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-02 13:09:37 Reply

Gosh can't some people just let this post die down?


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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-02 13:52:47 Reply

At 4/1/12 11:57 PM, Bees wrote:

if i openly show that i am apathetic it is not an clever retort or rebuttal to call me apathetic. it is a redundant observation that lacks a point. way 2 go morons

Get over yourself, your post was just you actin like a suburban gangster and as usual only reveals how arrogant and stupid you are.


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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-02 13:58:50 Reply

At 4/1/12 11:50 PM, Bees wrote:
also lmao he thought he had a point by comparing trayvon martin (a total DWEEB who never entered my life and never will) to someone i loved dying.

Again your intellect is radiant. I wasn't comparing Martin himself to your loved ones, genius. I was comparing your outlook on Martins death to the eventual death of your loved ones.See this is why you need to drop the pretentious teen act clearly you're not as smart as you like to think you are and it shows almost every time.


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Response to Opinion on Trayvon Martin murder? 2012-04-02 18:42:42 Reply

At 4/2/12 05:30 AM, MrPercie wrote: only when your mothers death could have been avoided because it was just ones man actions that lead to her death, yeah I wouldnt be surprised if you demanded justice.

If my mom jumped on top of somebodies and started beating their head into the ground because she thought they have been following her I wouldn't demand justice or make it a race issue.

At 4/1/12 09:10 PM, ZXrealm wrote: It means he ran it against 300 voices to see how similar it was to the audio in the phone call. Since the audio quality was bad, that means a good deal of similar voices should match. With Zimmerman's matching a 48% only, that means he is definitively ruled out. The 300 is a benchmark. Because of that, it actually makes it easy to see if Zimmermans voice is plausible. This completely proves it was not him, because it is so easy to enter the 90% range, and even with such a high acceptance rate, Zimmerman's voice couldn't qualify.

I'm sorry, but how exactly is bad audio quality+a bunch of people matching that bad quality=Obviously not Zimmerman? If it is that easy to hit the 90% range, that method seems more then just a little bit flawed.


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