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At 8/20/01 01:28 AM, TomFulp wrote: I have some crazy ideas for the site that I might implement over the next few months, but one involves changing the current voting system. I thought it would be good to get some feedback!
What we've noticed is that a lot of users vote either 0 or 5 on movies, because they want to either raise or lower the score. People are igoring 1-4 because there are so many voters and you need to be extreme to make a difference in a movies score.
Sooo... What if we ditched the 0-5 system for a thumbs up / thumbs down system? Basically it would be a yay or nay, and we would calculate a score based on how many thumbs up for how many total votes. For example, if a movie has 10 votes, 6 being a thumbs up, it would have a score of 60%.
It would simplify the voting process and the results might actually end up being better... We could still track light and dark users based on their vote vs. the score... So if a movie has an 80% and someone votes against it, that would still count towards making them a darker user.
What does everyone think of this?
I did a topic about the same subject, about ng users voting 0 or5 !!! They all said i was a fucked up lunatic !!! I'm just glad Tom maid a topic about the same problem !!! Now, time for some payback !!! hehe.......
long as i can blam im cool, and i do see what you mean i dont use any thing but 0 or 5 anyway, why dont you put up a vote on wether to change it or not, pop it on the front page and let the users decide.
At 8/20/01 01:28 AM, TomFulp wrote: What does everyone think of this?
Sorry to bring it back up because I know it probably won't happen this far in the future but I think that's an excellent idea.
I'm tired of everyone voting 0's and 5's.
maybe you can use a third kind of thumb, the one who isn't down or up but in the middle, just in case the movie isn't so bad, but neather so good, you know? gotta say, great idea, but you gotta put something in it that's just in tha middle of the two
well i myself think this is a good i dea a lot of voters do vote in a 'yay or nay' style any way so this is a just a more facated way of making it that way so i think it is a good i dea
as long as a thumbs down would have just as much as a drastic change as a 0 does im down with it cuz i wanna still have as much voting power as i do now.
At 8/20/01 01:28 AM, TomFulp wrote: I have some crazy ideas for the site...
What does everyone think of this?
Eh, I like the way it is right now but I'm probably one of the only people who votes using more than two of the buttons. Either way I don't think It'd matter, the site would still kick ass.
I find the thumbs up/thumbs down idea cool, but it will create few problems too. You will have to change all the ratings of the older flash, but how will you change it to be really representative? If you continue with your idea, it will be hard to say how much a flash rated 2.65 can be worth in a percentage scale. You have to be careful with it. And you have to think that a majority of the scores are under 3.00, so under 60 %. For the newbie who comes on Newgrounds for the first time, if he saw 25 movies with a 50 % rate... I think you got my point.
It could be a Good idea.
The movies or games that i love i ussually vote 5 but sometimes i vote 4 by the graphics.
But i now vote 5 because when i vote 4 on those movies or games that i love it always says that i'm lowering it's score.
i dunno. i think the way it is is good, because you decide on how much of a diffrence you wanna make.
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At 7/30/07 03:03 PM, alicetheDroog wrote: i dunno. i think the way it is is good, because you decide on how much of a difference you wanna make.
yeah, i make a pretty good point, don't i?
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That has got to be the sloppiest Idea I've ever heard. I always vote using all of the numbers. And the fact that many are saying to have a good bad and middle number is just more reason to keep all the 6 numbers we have already. Altho the MAJORITY dont use them, other users such as myself use all of them.
Why change something that already works? Who gives if the majority vote 0 or 5? I know many who do this only do it for the deposit points anyways. And how would the top 50 work then? None would recieve anything BUT thumbs up. I know those submissions are subjective to mainly 5s and 4s, and those 4s make a difference in that area of NG.
Scores would be grossly innaccurate I would say. Im a BIG no against this. Sorry tom =(
Yeh I agree but there should also be like a " I DONT CARE" button
cause some movies in the portal there not shit and there not great eather..
so you definetly need a in between..
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I am one of the few people that actually use the 1-4 buttons, and so I agree that it shouldn't have to be all-or-nothing, or even with a button in the middle. I think we should keep the voting system as it is.
I'd say that having three options; good, average or bad, is the best way. Movies are not just good or bad, there is an in-between. I personally usually only use 0, 3 and 5.
It is a good idea when you think of it that way. But then there are quite a few movies out there that are not good enough to warrant a 5 or bad enough for a 0. Yes, it is true most people vote 5 or 0, but thats usually for getting the blam/protect points and sometimes in the top50. It happens everytime an awesome submission comes into the portal, itll get lets say a 4.40 and then it makes it to the top50 of all time and its score slowly and eventually plummets to something like a 4.25 or 4.24. This is evidence of people voting 0 because they want their favourite submission at the top. But that wont change with the new rating system, these amazing submissions will still lose their superior score and become one with the others. Once a submission actually makes it to the portal, from what i have heard and seen in some reviews, people vote on in for how good it is because it doesnt matter to them whether its score drops or raises 0.01. And the last thing I have to say about the possible new rating system is that it wont be as easy to distinguish the amazing submissions from some of the worse ones. With only 2 options, and people see an ok movie/game what do they do? They may end up voting Thumbs Down or thumbs up and hence receiving the same vote as something horrible or something awesome when it really doesnt deserve it.
Basically I think this idea would be good for some things, but for the most part itll just make things harder to distinguish from each other. And there are still many people who use this current system the way it was meant to be used, by voting 0,1,2,3,4, or 5 accordingly.
At 7/10/04 05:48 PM, Grey-Fox-Leader wrote: I find the thumbs up/thumbs down idea cool, but it will create few problems too. You will have to change all the ratings of the older flash, but how will you change it to be really representative? If you continue with your idea, it will be hard to say how much a flash rated 2.65 can be worth in a percentage scale. You have to be careful with it. And you have to think that a majority of the scores are under 3.00, so under 60 %. For the newbie who comes on Newgrounds for the first time, if he saw 25 movies with a 50 % rate... I think you got my point.
Yea thats another thing, it may be harder for the many newbs to follow if they see so many things with roughly the same score (early after it passes judgement so there are not many vots in total)
And like AlicetheDroog said a little bit before me, its good to affect something the way you want.
And last thing, How will the VOTING POWER work when there are just two options?
I'm sorry to say that that would be both a good and bad idea...
It would be good for those who do vote either a 0 or a 5, but for those like me who do give submissions the actual score they deserve. This also might mess up the Blam / Protect system.