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Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-04-26 02:06:02


At 4/25/06 06:45 PM, dave wrote: Laff, one page since I was gone.

My fellow ngdd members, I will not be returning for quite a long time. Please hold a spot for me though, because i'll be back sometime, (Might pop in once a month?) at least not till july.

Good luck comrads.

ohh man one of are most active members, well good luck with what ever you are doing. I will keep you as the Department leader but will get someone to acting leader while you are gone. Hope to see you soon!

Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-04-27 09:56:34


Everything is dead this week... Rucklo has some great ideas for a comp but I think we're both lacking the motivation to do anything at the moment. Apparently, he has a few obligations as do I - I'm overworked at the moment - been busier than a one legged man in an ass kicking contest for the last few weeks.

This thread is even more deserted than the AF is - and that's pretty bad - the entire Audio Forum has seemed like a ghost town for the past few days.

Could just be me though.

At the moment, the Audio Dept consists of only Rucklo and I ... and I haven't seen him around here lately...

I would talk to the AF to see if more peeps wanted to join up but for the most part they're a very pragmatic bunch. Most of them would probably not be interested, as there really doesn't seem to be much of a purpose - which brings me to this:

Is there a clearly defined purpose or mission posted anywhere for the NGDD?

I mean, for the last few weeks I've been posting Audio related stats but aside from that I'm having a hard time seeing any real point - aside from the gathering of data ...

Tedium without purpose is simply busywork - I'm wondering if we can find something additional along the way that could help tie everything together a bit more.

This is not simple negativity or unfounded criticism - this is a call to action - I'd like to challenge each of the dept. heads - myself included - to come up with a few ideas on how we can rally the NGDD together into a more powerful and purposeful club.

I think these suggestions should be included in NEXT weeks' reports - this should give everyone plenty of time to get their ideas straightened out.

If what I'm asking for already exists, then by all means someone clue me in.


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Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-04-27 09:59:20


sorry for being so inactive guys, ive been really grounded for a while now. If theres anything i should know, please tell me. Actrually i dont think i was ever given a real position here...


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Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-04-27 10:40:24


Sorry for the HUGE absence but i am beck for good hopefully this time. So what all have i missed in my absence?


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Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-04-27 10:45:44


At 4/27/06 09:56 AM, LJCoffee wrote:
This is not simple negativity or unfounded criticism - this is a call to action - I'd like to challenge each of the dept. heads - myself included - to come up with a few ideas on how we can rally the NGDD together into a more powerful and purposeful club.

I have been thinking about that.

I think these suggestions should be included in NEXT weeks' reports - this should give everyone plenty of time to get their ideas straightened out.

i already have one so I will share it with you:

My idea is to create a promotion system. Each week each Department head would set his or her Department a task. People would complete this task and earn points on how well they did. At a certain interval of time the Department leaders would see who had the highest score and they would earn promotion.

Their is one problem with this, the amount of members and activity in the club. These both need a boost and before we integrate new ideas I think we should find someway of getting new members. I would like anyone to comment on the promotion idea and give ideas on how to attract new members.

Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-04-27 10:47:47


At 4/27/06 10:40 AM, broncofan144 wrote: Sorry for the HUGE absence but i am beck for good hopefully this time. So what all have i missed in my absence?

We have a couple of new member's and Dave is going to be a bit inactive. We are running some competitions soon, the audio winner will get on the Audio Frontpage and the Flash winner on the actual Frontpage.

We are also looking for ways to get new members in and ways to make it better.

Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-04-27 12:18:31


I haven´t been that active within this thread, but I have been working out some ideas for an audio competition. We´re (LJCoffee and I) are aiming quite high with this, and well, I feel about the same thing as LJ about this whole thing to be honest. What he said :D


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Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-04-27 12:21:50


At 4/27/06 12:18 PM, Rucklo wrote: stuff

i guess i shouldnt have waited 100 hours between writing and actually posting :D what i said were thoughts before your posts, wizard.


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Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-04-27 14:14:08


OMG

Ok, I'm finally back. If you remember me. Classes, essays, and exams are over, so I have much more time to be on NG. And thus in the NGDD.

I think I was in the BBS section. If you need people in another area, I can move there.


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Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-04-28 03:54:23


At 4/27/06 02:14 PM, Peregrinus wrote: OMG

Ok, I'm finally back. If you remember me. Classes, essays, and exams are over, so I have much more time to be on NG. And thus in the NGDD.

I think I was in the BBS section. If you need people in another area, I can move there.

Welcome back, this is getting serious now we are getting extremely inactive, if anyone has AIM please contact me or post ideas here on how we can get more members. Lets hope your return Peregrinus will bring more activity. I will sort out a new BBS leadr I just need them to accept it but when Dave comes back he can have it back if he want's.

Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-04-28 09:43:14


Once again, it's Friday, you aint got no job and you aint got shit to do!

...and now, it's time for another

Audio Dept. end of week report

New Audio Portal Submissions: 462 (down 165 from last week)

with the most new submissions to:
Techno and Hip Hop - Modern are tied for first place - both with 79 new submissions
Miscellaneous - Miscellaneous weighed in with 57 new tracks
Video Game had 44 new tunes
Trance came in 5th with 29 new submissions

Not exactly a record-breaking week for audio submissions...

There were 66 new topics created this week in the AF and 1003 new posts.

This week felt completely dead - as I wandered the streets of the AF, my only companions a tumbleweed and a few crickets, a lone coyote yipped in the distance. Only a few decent topics were made or revived and a few bad ones popped their heads up as well...

Points of Interest:
Collaborations. This seems to be the flavor of the week.
There are a few collaboration threads

Points of InterestHERE and HERE as well as another HERE. This also loosely ties in with the newgrounds band for a total of no less than 4 collab related topics on page 1.

Audio collabs rarely, if ever, actually go anywhere - I've been involved with several audio collabs and a flash collab or two as well. The audio always starts out strong - spirits are high, everyone is pumped and ready ... for 10 minutes - then they start the slow downward spiral into oblivion... I wish them luck - they'll need it.

There's no shortage of spam in the AF - three things that most of us are good at include making little tunes, telling people to read the damn stickies and spamming up the AF.

Points of Concern:
Lots of hate rolling around the AF this past week. Several topics have already been locked. A few new faces have shown up recently in the AF and they're damaging morale - One can't seem to stop bitching about ParagonX9. Another is simply complaining about the quality of NGAP submissions. A few more here and there do what they can to cause problems. If they persist, I'll name them and see about getting them banned from the AF for a while - that is, unless it's already been taken care of.

If I didn't know better I would think it was an intentional attack. Psy-Ops on the AF...

Hey, waitasecond - I don't know better!

Over the next week, I will be beating my head against the wall to come up with a few ideas that might breath new life into the NGDD. I hope you all do the same!


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Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-04-28 09:58:22


At 4/28/06 09:43 AM, LJCoffee wrote:
Audio Dept. end of week report

Another superb report.

Over the next week, I will be beating my head against the wall to come up with a few ideas that might breath new life into the NGDD. I hope you all do the same!

Thats good to know someone else had their brain thinking about it, what did you think of that promotion idea I posted?

Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-04-28 11:01:29


At 4/27/06 10:47 AM, WastedWizard wrote:
At 4/27/06 10:40 AM, broncofan144 wrote:
We have a couple of new member's and Dave is going to be a bit inactive. We are running some competitions soon, the audio winner will get on the Audio Frontpage and the Flash winner on the actual Frontpage.

We are also looking for ways to get new members in and ways to make it better.

Well thats cool and good to hear that this place got some new members. And i will also try to find a way to get members in here.


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Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-04-28 13:27:21


At 4/28/06 09:58 AM, WastedWizard wrote: what did you think of that promotion idea I posted?

Well, that would certainly help add a little day to day RPG element. I think that it would help if it really meant something though. We'd need a clear and understandable promotion path that wouldn't be messed with too much - or else it could easily devolve into a game of "I just promoted XXXX to King-Master-1st Class of the known universe" know what I mean?

I'm thinking more along the lines of how to help bring a little respect and credence to the club.

It would be nice if there were a real, understandable purpose - it would be great if other users were actually impressed by the membership and wanted in as well, you know?

Maybe each dept. should come up with a "rank structure" and some general requirements for each as well as a few ways for "meritorious promotions"

still though - even with a promotion system, unless there is a clear purpose, then it would be hard for people to see why they would want to participate.

Bottom line is what are people getting out of membership?

The collected data has me wondering what to do with it. I mean it's easy enough to mine data and say X amount of posts were made, Y new submissions... but who sees it? and what is it, or can it be used for?

Maybe we should more closely monitor current trends and fads so that we'll be able to better predict what types of flash and audio submissions will do better (score higher) at any given time.

I'm not really sure yet.


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Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-04-28 13:32:23


At 4/28/06 01:27 PM, LJCoffee wrote:
At 4/28/06 09:58 AM, WastedWizard wrote: what did you think of that promotion idea I posted?
lots of stuff

I see your point, the ranks in the dept's should be fitted around the dept, for example maybe each rank in the BBS dept could be a different forum and that person could be a specialist in that area. They could then all do weekly reports on their area and then other people can comment on them. A sort of commentary on Newgrounds where people can discuss it and comment on it. That’s another idea, what do you think?

Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-04-28 13:42:54


At 4/28/06 01:35 PM, Ev0lJam wrote: i dont know what this club is but it sounds cool.can i join?

Sure we have three department's, flash, bbs and audio. Choose one and you are a member/

We are currently going through a bad patch and are sorting things out so it is a bit of a mess.

Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-04-28 13:52:15


At 4/28/06 01:48 PM, Ev0lJam wrote:
At 4/28/06 01:42 PM, WastedWizard wrote:
At 4/28/06 01:35 PM, Ev0lJam wrote: i dont know what this club is but it sounds cool.can i join?
Sure we have three department's, flash, bbs and audio. Choose one and you are a member/

We are currently going through a bad patch and are sorting things out so it is a bit of a mess.
hmm i think ill choose..................flash please

Yes another member for my department, at the moment you don't really need to do much as we are trying to think of some changes but just drop in and see if anything has changed.

Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-04-28 14:12:08


At 4/28/06 01:57 PM, Ev0lJam wrote: btw you never told me what i do

I said "at the moment you don't have to do much" Once the ideas we are having start working I will give you an official role.

Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-05-01 20:28:38


This is not my submission but it still is good. :D

I had an inspiration.

NG Department of Defense


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Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-05-02 02:03:02


At 5/1/06 08:28 PM, _Matt_ wrote: This is not my submission but it still is good. :D

I had an inspiration.

lol great, I have exams this week but I should still be around.

Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-05-02 22:53:30


Alrighty.... I'm back. Sort of. I'll post a full member list with all the bells and whistles in an hour or so. Then I'll get to responding on the things which happened while I was away.

Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-05-03 00:31:49


Member Rankings
Secretary of Defence NaughtyKitty - Leader

Department of The BBS
Secretary dave - Leader of Department of BBS
Chief of Staff Bahamut- - External Affairs
General _Matt_ - N/A
Lieutenant General BonusStage - N/A
Major General Andersson - Intelligence
Colonol seventy-one - Internal Affairs
Brigadier General BannanaBreadMuffin - N/A
Colonel MasterStalker - Clubs & Crews
Lieutenant Colonel Peregrinus - Clubs & Crews
Major broncofan144 - N/A
Captain cynimun - N/A
First Lieutenant milinko959 - N/A
Second Lieutenant MrDeadly - N/A

Department of Flash
Secretary wastedwizard - Leader of Department of Flash
General M-A-R-C-U-S - Portal Regular
Lieutenant General DESOLATER4 - Ideas
Major General Ev0lJam - N/A
Colonol Gamemaster144 - N/A

Department of Audio
Secretary LJCoffee - Leader of Department of Audio
General Rucklo - Chief Assisstant to Secretary of Audio


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Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-05-03 02:03:27


At 5/2/06 10:53 PM, NaughtyKitty wrote: Alrighty.... I'm back. Sort of. I'll post a full member list with all the bells and whistles in an hour or so. Then I'll get to responding on the things which happened while I was away.

Great to see you are back and just in time since my exams started yesterday.

Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-05-03 09:07:55


Glad to see the department system working :D

Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-05-03 09:48:57


At 5/3/06 12:31 AM, Wylina wrote: Member Rankings
Major broncofan144 - N/A

I already told WAstedWizard that i wanted to be in the BBS Section so i guess mine should not say N/A.


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Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-05-03 10:37:06


At 5/3/06 09:48 AM, broncofan144 wrote:
At 5/3/06 12:31 AM, Wylina wrote: Member Rankings
Major broncofan144 - N/A
I already told WAstedWizard that i wanted to be in the BBS Section so i guess mine should not say N/A.

No you need to be assigned a job in the department and the head of that department does that. Dave the BBS department leader is away and Chief of Staff Bahamut- told me he no longer posts here so it looks like _Matt_ will become the new leader. If he has a job he will say.

Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-05-03 16:13:53


Is it time for more action and less talk approach? But, I guess lately there hasn't been much of either.

I see that there has been some effort with the competitions but it seems there are not enough active people to enter them - especially Flash artists. The offer made by Tom to place the winners on the front page is a very big incentive and will certainly create considerable amount of activity in the club.

The audio competition seems to be going well. But for the Flash...

If people are already well into making their flashes for the competition just shout-out to let us know. Otherwise...

I'm thinking what we can do is all focus on creating a single flash instead of a competition - a collaboration (would need at least 5 people who can create a quality Flash, which I see we don't have), a game, or something with a nice plot. What we would need first is a list of people who can draw and a single theme/idea/plot to base the flash on, and a list of Actionscripters. So please post if you feel like you have something to offer. Comments?

Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-05-03 20:07:38


At 5/3/06 10:37 AM, WastedWizard wrote: _Matt_ will become the new leader. If he has a job he will say.

I don't really have a job the "internal affairs" department sort of falls right into what you do. You seem to catch the new users because you are always on at the right time. But as far as being leader goes, I don't think I would want to step up. With the end of school so near I am usually up to my eyeballs in worksheets and stuff. I barely go on NG for more than a few minutes a day to deposit my experience on the weekdays. (Or just drop in at random times during them, never staying on too long.) I would not be fit to. :0

At 5/3/06 04:13 PM, NaughtyKitty wrote: I see that there has been some effort with the competitions but it seems there are not enough active people to enter them

That's what I had said to WW in a AIM chat, the mass e-mailing was a recovery attempt.

More stuff I didn't have a comment on.

Moving right along.

I'm thinking what we can do is all focus on creating a single flash instead of a competition - a collaboration (would need at least 5 people who can create a quality Flash, which I see we don't have), a game, or something with a nice plot. What we would need first is a list of people who can draw and a single theme/idea/plot to base the flash on, and a list of Actionscripters. So please post if you feel like you have something to offer. Comments?

That'd be the bee's knees, but I don't have much to offer at all when it comes to flash. I'm sure if we spread the word to a few select users they would be interested in joining and helping with a collab to get their name in on a good flash. If you know what I mean.


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Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-05-04 03:28:01


At 5/3/06 04:13 PM, NaughtyKitty wrote:
focus on creating a single flash instead of a competition

I can do basic actionscript you know human movement, car movement, hit tests and gravity sort of stuff but it all depends on what sort of thing you want.

At 5/3/06 08:07 PM, _Matt_ wrote:
At 5/3/06 10:37 AM, WastedWizard wrote: _Matt_ will become the new leader. If he has a job he will say.
But as far as being leader goes, I don't think I would want to step up.

:Ok thats fine, well the next person on the department list is BonusStage, I will e-mail him later if people want him to be the new leader.

Response to NG Department of Defense 2006-05-04 09:11:48


Here is a little idea since I have some spare time.

The plot:
You are working as part of a security firm protecting the Newgrounds office from evil forces.

The first level: The character would be standing outside the building when enemy start coming out of the bushes. You have to shoot and kill them.

If after killing 15 or so you get moved on to the next level, a small film will be shown that shows the character running into the building. All of a sudden his face would be wide open. Then there would be a small animation showing the wrecked offices.

The second level: You have to make sure the first floor is clear by shooting more of the enemy.

After doing this another small animation showing the character running up the stairs and into the main room finding it trashed and Tom Fulp on the floor fighting for his life.

The third level: Kill the enemy ambushing you on the second floor.

Another animation showing the character getting Tom over his shoulder and jumping out the window into a speeding car.

The fourth level: Race Tom to hospital without getting caught.

This would be the basic outline and it could be turned into a series but I just want to see if you like it.