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"I think it passing odd that I am loved by one for a kindness I never did, and reviled by so many for my finest act." ~ Jaime Lannister

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Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-02-08 18:07:34


This is a note to remind myself of this user


"I think it passing odd that I am loved by one for a kindness I never did, and reviled by so many for my finest act." ~ Jaime Lannister

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Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-02-08 21:39:33


Phrozonfire, Tom also said that you can send him a pm. Although I think using the forum works just as well, really.

Since I don't have the ability to delete henti galleries, I've always just marked them as spam (assuming no game element is included). However, I'll keep it in mind and will send any future henti submissions I find to Tom.

Should Tom be out go to guy for this though? I'm sure he has more important things to do than deleting bad submissions or changing the movie to game.

What about having a Head Genre Mod with these sorts of abilities so he can do it intead?


Collecting NG's undiscovered gems has been a hobby of mine since 2005. I am curently posting them on my blog.

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Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-02-08 22:25:51


Not sure about this stuff. It's not a quiz, but he didn't make the content, just the rpg base.

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Gay Porn, against rules? Still stolen

Again, all non-created stuff, stolen pictures


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Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-02-09 01:48:04


Um, I'm just skimming this thread, but am I correct in assuming you guys are deleting all those hentai galleries because they don't have original content? Does this mean all of the "Meet and Fuck" games also, because they don't have original content??

Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-02-09 02:44:55


At 2/8/11 01:36 PM, TomFulp wrote: I've been deleting hentai galleries as they come up - you can email me with links if you have some. There are hentai quiz games that have still gotten a pass, but they will be easier to round up after the redesign launches, at which point they might get liquidated due to the source of their images.

I absolutely agree on deleting the hentai galleries that are clearly in violation of the Portal submit rules "non-interactive/porn slideshow", however hentai quiz games with art that the user did not create themselves (that is, roughly ALL of the H-quizzes on the site) should be kept and protected under a grandfather clause of sorts.

As far as I know, there was no such rule in place preventing users from submitting these games before the redesign, so Flash Hentai Quiz games featuring non-original art that passed before the current design should be spared judgment. However, those such submissions that were passed after the current design hit should be placed under review, although there is nothing in the current Portal submit FAQs that says non-original art is disallowed as of this current design.

I don't count the "someone else's work" or "rip another author's art" as 'saying so', as they apply to things unrelated to these kinds of submissions.

Some of the more popular submissions on the Portal would be missing if "featuring non-original art" became the sole reason for its removal. Sprite movies run a similar dilemma, but typically pass and are also very popular amongst Portal-goers - should these also undergo a similar process?

Some of the Hentai quiz games that contain full video sequences may be liable for liquidation, as the copyright stuff is in a bit of a grey area, so to say. If there was a way for me to help out in these cases of indecision and post-judgment judgment, I'd be more than willing to lend a hand in the matters.

At 2/8/11 10:25 PM, phrozonfire wrote: Not sure about this stuff. It's not a quiz, but he didn't make the content, just the rpg base.

Well, if someone made a base to build a game on, I think it still counts as his own work. Unless the content in question is already copyrighted by another publisher or author, I honestly doubt that it can be said his submissions are doing something that goes against the rules - again, as is the case with sprite movies. If the author properly cites sources or gives the artists that created the content originally credit, then they are clear of any wrong-doing unless an entire work is blatantly stolen with little regard for who made it originally (like when someone tries to pass a stolen Flash through the Portal or something, for example).

AMVs constantly get trashed on video sites for violating song and video copyrights, but because those you mentioned were submitted before the current design, I feel they should be kept as no such rules preventing these types of submissions were in place when they passed.

At 2/9/11 01:48 AM, hentaicook wrote: Um, I'm just skimming this thread, but am I correct in assuming you guys are deleting all those hentai galleries because they don't have original content? Does this mean all of the "Meet and Fuck" games also, because they don't have original content??

I think those are a special case. They feature non-original art (for the most part), but are otherwise an original work in and of themselves. The designer took efforts to animate and program sequences that would not be available from a mere image or CG set alone. The Clock Crew occasionally did similar things, but in a much cruder fashion that typically involved placing a strobing circle over a person's mouth in a photograph to mimic talking. The MnF games typically feature a mix of fully-animated (but traced) vector graphics and non-original art manipulated in Flash to appear to be animated. As such, these games and their author are not doing anything wrong.

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While we're on the subject, I think this guy deserves some attention.

All of these submissions are just ripped out of some video and sequenced in buttons - essentially a video slideshow with extremely limited interactivity. As a newly appointed genre mod, I wish these to be promptly removed for just being straight-up porn with no other redeeming value and possibly violating Portal submit rule of "submit copyrighted video clips that you did not make".

As for actual genre modding, I did part of the Defense games when I was icon modding that collection. I shall do the same for the rest of the collections I icon mod on, though I will not report them in this thread like I do in the Icon Mod crew.


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Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-02-09 03:05:08


At 2/9/11 01:48 AM, hentaicook wrote: Um, I'm just skimming this thread, but am I correct in assuming you guys are deleting all those hentai galleries because they don't have original content? Does this mean all of the "Meet and Fuck" games also, because they don't have original content??
I think those are a special case. They feature non-original art (for the most part), but are otherwise an original work in and of themselves. The designer took efforts to animate and program sequences that would not be available from a mere image or CG set alone. The Clock Crew occasionally did similar things, but in a much cruder fashion that typically involved placing a strobing circle over a person's mouth in a photograph to mimic talking. The MnF games typically feature a mix of fully-animated (but traced) vector graphics and non-original art manipulated in Flash to appear to be animated. As such, these games and their author are not doing anything wrong.

The guy who makes MnF games steals a lot of non-vector art. There's no tracing done. He steals this art from Japanese Game Companies that SELL this art, and in turn, plasters his games with ads so that he can profit off of these legitimate companies that have no way of defending themselves from this sort of thing. The only work he actually does is programming the game and animating what was once still images (and in one case, he steals another game's animation outright!!)

"Well, if someone made a base to build a game on, I think it still counts as his own work."

So what if I made a tic-tac-toe game that unlocked unoriginal hentai galleries?...
Look, if we banned all unoriginal content, there wouldn't be much left of NG. Stuff like Sprite movies is where the game company, the author, and the fans all benefit, but not games like MnF.

You shouldn't rely on a strict wording of "No unoriginal content" but instead treat everything on a case by case basis.

Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-02-09 04:12:29


At 2/9/11 03:05 AM, hentaicook wrote: The guy who makes MnF games steals a lot of non-vector art...

Hmmm...if this indeed is the case then I would probably have to think it over. I personally have not seen the original sources of his materials, but perhaps I could see your side of the coin were I given some more information about this situation. In any case, it is obvious that the artwork in the games isn't his own - I would suggest a group consensus to be made and also contacting the author directly before making any moves, however.

So what if I made a tic-tac-toe game that unlocked unoriginal hentai galleries?...

I think it would depend greatly on how it was handled and when it was submitted. We know that, as of now, submitting non-original art in hentai Flash games is a no-no, so it would get canned. However, if the game was unique in some way that didn't just copy+paste code from a dev site, or wasn't simply a paper-thin guise to pass a full-fledged slideshow onto the Portal, I would have to look at its creation date. If it is recent, it still gets the boot. If it was submitted before such rules came into effect, I would vote to protect it as long as it didn't violate any known/existing copyright.

You shouldn't rely on a strict wording of "No unoriginal content" but instead treat everything on a case by case basis.

That is exactly what I want to try to prevent - every case is different, after all. What I mentioned was a reaction to phrozon's understanding of the situation and how he would have seemingly plotted to handle things under a "no unoriginal content" kind of thing.

Sprite movies also are a tricky subject and would likely perish under such a strict rule, so I think that my suggestion of the "grandfather clause" and treating all recent and future 'non-original art' cases individually would be the best route to take when evaluating existing Portal content.


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Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-02-09 05:33:02


Thanks, I'll be rootin for you guys, clean this place UP!

Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-02-09 11:24:10


Thank you, ArtVanDal, I will keep all that in mind for my next runs, because I was not quite sure how the jurisdiction fell on these.


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Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-02-22 14:07:42


One thing I have seen a number of times is that big mouth face that shoots a super laser at somone.

IT happens as the end of this clip. Does that particular thing have a name like... maybe lollazor or some such. I was thinking of tagging it as it's used often in various shorts.


Collecting NG's undiscovered gems has been a hobby of mine since 2005. I am curently posting them on my blog.

Feel free to check them out and tell me what you think.

Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-02-23 03:48:49


At 2/22/11 02:07 PM, TomaO2 wrote: One thing I have seen a number of times is that big mouth face that shoots a super laser at somone.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/56 2127
IT happens as the end of this clip. Does that particular thing have a name like... maybe lollazor or some such. I was thinking of tagging it as it's used often in various shorts.

It is called shoop da woop.


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Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-03-17 12:40:56


Still chipping away at the main list... slowly....

Was wondering if we could slam this thing and get to the 65k mark today.... HMMMMMM

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/need_ge nres


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Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-03-21 06:52:14


At 3/17/11 12:40 PM, TomFulp wrote: Still chipping away at the main list... slowly....

Was wondering if we could slam this thing and get to the 65k mark today.... HMMMMMM

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/need_ge nres

Gonna see how much I can do today. Some progress being done. I think we are still at 69,000ish.


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Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-03-23 07:14:46


Slowly knocking them out. Been trying to do a handful each day. Also, here is a gallery that probably needs to go.


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Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-03-29 13:05:20


I've been using the genre list, and I think I've knocked out at least 40 of them so far. Not sure, will keep going.


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Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-03-30 14:47:56


Oh hello there. I heard the other cool kids hang out here.


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Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-03-31 00:21:33


You guys must have really taken a chunk out, because when I started tonight I was just around 75 submissions away from 65k! So now nothing with more than 65k views is without genre info... I guess the next goal is 60k. :)


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Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-03-31 00:27:43


At 3/31/11 12:21 AM, TomFulp wrote: You guys must have really taken a chunk out, because when I started tonight I was just around 75 submissions away from 65k! So now nothing with more than 65k views is without genre info... I guess the next goal is 60k. :)

Hey, I was wondering if this group had a list of the people that were submitting the most genres, like the icon one.


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Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-04-18 11:56:59


Sorry, we don't have a genre rankings like we do with icons. :(

Here's a question... We have a lot of these physics-based games where you remove blocks while maintaining specific blocks on the screen:

I tag them with physics, but we should also agree on how we tag the removal aspect... I tagged this one "remove" but other options are "remover" or "removal" - do you guys like "remove" over those?


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Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-04-18 17:06:02


How does one become a genre mod anyways?

Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-04-21 19:32:23


Two things:

Recently I was going through sports games such as football/soccer, golf and basketball and although I originally considered the very first tag advise by not using "soccer", "golf", etc as tags, I can't help but feel games under those genres should have the representing sport as tags.

The other thing I'm wondering about is describing games where you see characters, buildings, etc as if you were looking down from above. I was using the "birdseye" tag to describe them as games in a bird's eye view perspective but maybe there's a better word to describe such games?

Also, I'm good with the "removal" tag for games that involve removing objects and such.

Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-04-21 21:09:25


At 4/21/11 07:32 PM, Bahamut wrote: Two things:

Recently I was going through sports games such as football/soccer, golf and basketball and although I originally considered the very first tag advise by not using "soccer", "golf", etc as tags, I can't help but feel games under those genres should have the representing sport as tags.

The other thing I'm wondering about is describing games where you see characters, buildings, etc as if you were looking down from above. I was using the "birdseye" tag to describe them as games in a bird's eye view perspective but maybe there's a better word to describe such games?

Also, I'm good with the "removal" tag for games that involve removing objects and such.

I started going with "remover" as the tag... doi! Should we stick with "remover"?

I agree about tagging sports, it helps maximize the chance of people finding what they are looking for.

"birdseye" sounds pretty decent but we could consider "topdown", which might be more common amongst games. Wikipedia explanation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-down_pe rspective#Top-down_perspective


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Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-04-22 08:32:26


At 4/21/11 09:09 PM, TomFulp wrote: I started going with "remover" as the tag... doi! Should we stick with "remover"?

Yeah, let's just go with remover for the time being. I'm sure we can correct any games with "removal" or "remove" later on. At least they'll still have some tags as well as the right genre.

I agree about tagging sports, it helps maximize the chance of people finding what they are look

I think the tagging wiki could do with a bit of an update to mention that. :) I know I still have the privileges to edit the article but I wonder if there's anything else similar we could throw in tags for.

"birdseye" sounds pretty decent but we could consider "topdown", which might be more common amongst games. Wikipedia explanation:

Yeah, topdown sounds much better. The fact that Wikipedia uses the early GTA games as a prime example of top-down perspective seals the deal for me.

Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-04-23 16:42:11


At 3/31/11 12:21 AM, TomFulp wrote: I guess the next goal is 60k. :)

...and it looks like that goal has been achieved, the submissions with the most views to be tagged are now just a small bit above 59k, so I guess 55k is the next target, though the targets will get harder and harder to hit now as we move further down the list.

Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-05-04 01:02:52


Hey Guys,

I just though I'd drop by and inform you that I'm a newly appointed "Genre Mod", so I'll be helping out the crew. I've already gone through the Rules/Faq about this kind of moderating, so now I'll start hammering out some of those games/flashes that need "genres" (Sorry, I would have posted sooner but work was a real pain in the ass today lol).

On the subject of "Hentai Galleries/Quizzes",here are a couple I believe could qualify for deletion (as these games contain numerous stolen images):

Note: Most of the pics included in these quizzes/galleries even have true author/site information cited on them, showing that they were indeed stolen (i.e. pics from HentaiKey).

Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-05-04 06:56:02


I cleared them out!


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Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-05-04 16:37:46


Looks like the author chose to remove this movie, no sense in giving it a genre lol (found it on the list):

Here is a Hentai quiz (with stolen pics) that was on the list:

(evidence)

This is just a video that is composed of stolen clips (on the list):

(clips are from: www.HentaiRules.tk; Rick Rolle'd "Youtube" video)

Response to The Genre Mod Crew 2011-05-06 15:02:58


I had to dig so far into my emails to find this thread. ):

Tom, i'm real excited to see this redesign, and i'm sure our genre modding has paid off. I'm currently changing all my icons from 46x46 to the higher-res right now.