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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2015-04-21 06:54:39


Looks like @Fooliolo was right about Nitendo, since it looks like no game that has anything to do with Mario can stay, here is another one-deleted, but still with medals:
Super Mario Cannon http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/620727

Two more things:
In this game the medals seem broken, last unlock: April 2014

And another one, this time the game itself seems to be broken, everytime I am trying to play this it succesfully connects to Newgrounds and then I see "error connecting with game server".


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2015-04-23 07:17:42


This game can no longer be played on NG, so the 10 point medal is no longer attainable.

Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2015-04-25 15:45:54


This time I got some specific issues to discuss, not regarding all game's medals.

The first one: you cannot play this game without getting it crashed. You just play, play, avoid, dodge, escape, flee...get a crash! And it happens every single time after a while, making it impossible to achieve the most valuable medals. I remember PMing the author about it some time ago, but get no response.

In this one the "collision" medals seem not to work:

Oh, I could also add another definition of a broken medal: a medal received as a result of an error/glitch, much earlier than the player was supposed to. This game gave me the the Boss 2 medal after I finished level 7, what irritated me because I want to Earn medals, not to get them because of bugs. I left the author a review about it.

I think that cases like this also should be pointed out.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2015-04-30 05:50:38


The game doesn't load anymore, so the medal can no longer be unlocked.
This problem was already mentioned to the author in October 2014.

Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2015-04-30 07:23:52


Hi HerbieG (and Reflectionist), thanks for letting me know about those medals. I already denied a few medals a while ago but these seem to be special. :]

At 4/25/15 03:45 PM, HerbieG wrote: The first one: you cannot play this game without getting it crashed.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/591734

Even though this game does crash occasionally, I don't see it as a game-breaking crash. I've played a while with my medal account and was able to collect even the hardest of the medals without the game quitting on me too often.
Having the game crash is very annoying but the medals are still obtainable. Perhaps if you're struck by a crash every single game you could try a different browser or delete your save file if it happens after a while of playing only.

I PM'ed the authors of the other games a while ago but they haven't replied just yet. If they don't reply in a week of the PM's I'll remove the broken medals.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2015-04-30 15:57:23


@Knuckstrike - about the Claustrophobia: I get this crash only on this game, on both Firefox and Chrome. Also as you can see in the reviews it is a well-known problem with this game, for example DoctorStrongbad mentioned it already in 2012. It is disappointing that the author did nothing to deal with it.

I got some fresh issues, first - two cases of medals from removed games still present on accounts:
Mo' Mentum http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/604307 - game removed
Oppa Gangnam Collector- game removed by author

And two games with broken medals - or rather broken games :

This one after preloader asks for downloading the latest Adobe Flash Player (I don't know, maybe from the future? ;-) ).

Anyway, latest unlock: one year ago.
And another broken game (not loading):


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2015-05-02 13:19:18


Check this one out - I started it some months ago, don't remember why, but for some reason stopped playing it. When I returned today, I found out that medals are not unlocking anymore, I did what I was supposed to for first few medals, but nothing. Last unlocks: about half a year ago:


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2015-05-09 10:39:04


Another week and unfortunately another broken games/medals, here they are:

This game is not loading, getting stucked on a smiley:

And in this one the medals seem to be broken, tried multiple times, but none of them unlocked:

The problem with GamezHero is that everytime I left them a review or PMed them nobody replied.

About medals from removed games: this week I encountered something "special", it is a series of games of one author, removed by Moderation team:

HTD: Cute Gryphon http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/602481
HTD: Dragon Talon http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/602482
HTD: L Lawliet http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/602626
HTD: Ord the Dragon http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/602004
HTD: Rainbow Sheep http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/602545


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2015-05-10 10:53:24


At 5/9/15 10:39 AM, HerbieG wrote: And in this one the medals seem to be broken, tried multiple times, but none of them unlocked:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/607846

The medals in this game seem to work for me. They are still being unlocked for others as well. Try refreshing the game , they were a bit iffy for me as well. Not broken though.

About medals from removed games: this week I encountered something "special", it is a series of games of one author, removed by Moderation team:

Ah, the How to draw dragon games. They came from an author which uploaded about three of them each day, each with hundreds of points unlockable in seconds by advancing through his games. We figured that wasn't the way the medal system is supposed to work and lowered the points of the medals immensely. I'll see what I can do.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2015-05-10 13:24:33


The medals in this game seem to work for me. They are still being unlocked for others as well. Try refreshing the game , they were a bit iffy for me as well. Not broken though.

I tried on another browser with the same effect, but suddenly a turned-on light bulb appeared over my head and I checked something. The conclusion: the medals are working, only the medal board of this game is broken and needs to be fixed. Therefore: good news!

Ah, the How to draw dragon games. They came from an author which uploaded about three of them each day, each with hundreds of points unlockable in seconds by advancing through his games. We figured that wasn't the way the medal system is supposed to work and lowered the points of the medals immensely. I'll see what I can do.

Yeah, definitely the 25, 50 and especially 100 point medals should be a reward for achieving Something, not for just clicking on "next page" or something like that. By the way, because I already posted some of the removed games, medals from which are still in the system, is there any chance that any of them would be reinstated/resubmitted? I wonder who are the authors of the games removed by them? Maybe it would be a good thing to let the author's info stay in these cases? Players could then ask whether the game will ever return to the Portal.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2015-05-17 06:33:42


The game Cult Classic, there is a medal that if you got all the medals you will get a medal showing that you got all the medals, but, it did not work help please :(


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2015-05-17 07:03:02


At 5/17/15 06:33 AM, ArcadeDominator wrote: The game Cult Classic, there is a medal that if you got all the medals you will get a medal showing that you got all the medals, but, it did not work help please :(

As I can see you got all the medals from this game :-)


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2015-05-24 17:54:47


Haven't posted here anything for a while, but here are some new things:

Two cases of medals from removed games:

The Excruciating Quiz http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/593219
Zambu Dance http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/583029

And a broken game with medals that is not loading:

By the way, did anybody check the Chicken Chaser or Save the Goons?


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2015-05-26 11:56:33


At 5/24/15 05:54 PM, HerbieG wrote: By the way, did anybody check the Chicken Chaser or Save the Goons?

Thanks for finding more games with broken medals. We usually like to give authors from old games a week or two to respond as not every author is active on a daily basis. The medals have been denied now.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2015-05-26 17:37:35


Over night, I lost 205 medal points. Does anybody know which medals were removed and why?


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2015-05-26 17:57:28


At 5/26/15 05:37 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: Over night, I lost 205 medal points. Does anybody know which medals were removed and why?

It is probably related to one of my previous posts, if you had medals from these games, I mean Save the Goons

which is not loading anymore and Chicken Chaser

in which the medals were broken (check my explanation above). I also lost my earlier earned medals from this game, I hoped that the author would fix the issue, but it looks like he did not.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2015-05-26 20:05:35


At 5/26/15 05:57 PM, HerbieG wrote:
At 5/26/15 05:37 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: Over night, I lost 205 medal points. Does anybody know which medals were removed and why?
if you had medals from these games, I mean Save the Goons
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/537448
which is not loading anymore and Chicken Chaser
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/631395

Thank you for that information. I will keep an eye out for other games with broken medals.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2015-06-17 09:11:02


Haven't been here for a while, not because being lazy, but I simply wasn't fiding any broken medals... until yesterday.
Here are three issues:

The game that is not loading anymore:

The game that is not giving medals anymore:

The game that... ??? That has some kind of an error:

Three games, three "thats", it somewhat reminds me the Sergio Leone's "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly" western movie ;-) Or characters from an old Scott Grooves - Mothership Reconnection music video: Mr Boo, Mr Jo and Mr ? ;-)
Oh, I see the Dynamic Systems issue still not fixed ;-)


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2015-06-18 19:51:05


There is one thing I wanted to ask about: there is this GamezHero game:

Did anyone of you have this "endless rendering" problem with the game, like me and some others? There is just "rendering" on the screen and nothing happens. I tried on Firefox - no use, when I tried on Chrome - even weirder things were happening: the game was constantly causing the Shockwave plugin to crash, or even the entire tab/window. I can see people unlocking medals from this game, so I wonder how can I make it just work? I tried leaving a review, PMing GamezHero, but of course nobody is responding...


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At 6/18/15 07:51 PM, HerbieG wrote: There is one thing I wanted to ask about: there is this GamezHero game:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/609552
Did anyone of you have this "endless rendering" problem with the game, like me and some others? There is just "rendering" on the screen and nothing happens. I tried on Firefox - no use, when I tried on Chrome - even weirder things were happening: the game was constantly causing the Shockwave plugin to crash, or even the entire tab/window. I can see people unlocking medals from this game, so I wonder how can I make it just work? I tried leaving a review, PMing GamezHero, but of course nobody is responding...

The rendering problem exists since the game. Only a few people encounter those issues. A solution was never posted only complaints. Forget to pm Gamezhero, this author never responds or discusses possible solutions with you. Especially with this error Gamezhero insists on updating the flashplayer to no avail.

When a game worked for others but not for me I always got Firefox and downgraded flash to the games release date or earlier. The newer flash versions are a bit stricter with the games and there is a protected mode (since v 11.3) in the newer versions sometimes creating errors and only deactivating it helps you to play the game.
https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html
Since I didn't encounter the rendering problem I cannot test a possible solution and I don't know if it will work, but it helped me with every other error so far.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2015-06-19 05:43:57


At 6/18/15 08:16 PM, Syrreal wrote:
At 6/18/15 07:51 PM, HerbieG wrote:
The rendering problem exists since the game. Only a few people encounter those issues.

Well I just feel soo damn elite now ;-) I once heard this proverb: when you hot bad luck, you'll get hit by a brick in a wooden church ;-)

A solution was never posted only complaints. Forget to pm Gamezhero, this author never responds or discusses possible solutions with you. Especially with this error Gamezhero insists on updating the flashplayer to no avail.

I unfortunately already noticed it, it is very bad behavior of Gamezhero, probably the only sponsor/producer that is not responding to anything. Earlier they were submitting games as a sponsor together with the author of the game and then the author could respond, that was good. I once even wanted to write them about something and found their e-mail on their website, but again-no answer... About acting for game/medals problems: best example is their last game Error Zone, they only removed the broken medals and did nothing to fix the issue.

When a game worked for others but not for me I always got Firefox and downgraded flash to the games release date or earlier. The newer flash versions are a bit stricter with the games and there is a protected mode (since v 11.3) in the newer versions sometimes creating errors and only deactivating it helps you to play the game.
https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html
Since I didn't encounter the rendering problem I cannot test a possible solution and I don't know if it will work, but it helped me with every other error so far.

That would explain these crashes I encountered on Chrome. Probably in Firefox the plugin container prevents this from happening, finally something good about this thing ;-)
So my browser/flash is just too new? About the sollution: it can work, as there even were very unstable versions of Flash Player in the past, which were forcing me to reinstall the previous version. But I can see people unlocking the medals everyday, so they all cannot have only old Flash installed.
Anyway I will try this and if I will succeed - I will post about it here.

Oh, one thing, where to report this "post" above? I translated it (it is Thai language) and this text is a promotion of casino, so it should be removed as spam.


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At 6/19/15 05:43 AM, HerbieG wrote:
At 6/18/15 08:16 PM, Syrreal wrote:
At 6/18/15 07:51 PM, HerbieG wrote:
The rendering problem exists since the game. Only a few people encounter those issues.
Well I just feel soo damn elite now ;-) I once heard this proverb: when you hot bad luck, you'll get hit by a brick in a wooden church ;-)

You should feel happy about it. Rendering is a problem that can sometimes be fixed by the user - of course not always depending on multiple factors. But there are other situations were you are completely clueless as a user.

Examples:
1) Big surprise - Gamezhero game lol:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/568563 - "100 Earned Money" only unlocks for 20-30 % of the players.
2) http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/593406 - "What Can I Say" only unlocks for half of the players.
3) http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/597083 - "Boom Duck" doesn't spawn enough zombies to finish the challenge and even the author of the game responded to me without a solution for it.
4) Forgot name of the game - There is also a game were you fly with a joint through a flappy bird stage and when you don't die in a specific spot for a very specific amount of points you will never get the medal because it saves online and you cannot reset it.


But I can see people unlocking the medals everyday, so they all cannot have only old Flash installed.

Correct. They don't install an old flash player. It just works. Everything above is known for the medal moderators since months or years and it doesn't seem to be fixed in the near future. I have to accept it as well as a brick falling on my head as well as everyone else. But this can be expanded -> I can only try to build it up properly that it runs as good as possible and attach every brick on my side. Newgrounds is unstable thanks to the not moderated achievement system. Meaning authors create the medals by themselves and without a "moderator" reviewing it (and with moderator I mean the person or persons who can work on the site directly - not the medal moderators moderating it).

All the other stuff is up to the authors or maybe the respective staff. And remembering how long it took the staff to fix the medal pages it will most likely never be cared of (1 year or 2 years again?). But can you really remove a medal people can unlock and guarantee a mistake on Newgrounds without someone looking into it and maybe searching the contact with the people who have the problem? Nope.

Don't get me wrong. I wrote exactly the same sentence already for multiple occasions and reported bugs directly to the moderators how they asked me to do. But in general, when there are people (and when they are only a handful of it) can unlock a medal that doesn't work for most of the other people nothing will be done about it and sometimes they don't want to do something about it for other good reasons (to identify cheaters). The only thing you always hear is - people can unlock it, the problem is on your side (even when there are as the above mentioned Urban Wars up to 70% people not unlocking it - makes sense!11).

But no one asked for the necessary information I could have easily given them. And a year ago after playing already for two years on Newgrounds I gave a big fuck about solving it and also didn't care. I wish you good luck and hope that the opinion of the relevant authorities on the page changed and they will help you or that you can find the solution yourself, maybe with a different version or other ideas.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2015-06-19 15:57:51


At 6/19/15 01:31 PM, Syrreal wrote:
At 6/19/15 05:43 AM, HerbieG wrote:
At 6/18/15 08:16 PM, Syrreal wrote:
At 6/18/15 07:51 PM, HerbieG wrote:
You should feel happy about it. Rendering is a problem that can sometimes be fixed by the user - of course not always depending on multiple factors. But there are other situations were you are completely clueless as a user.

I remember one example of that situation for me, it's

For some reason it is completely not giving me any achievements. I tried to PM the author, but got no response. Also this game seems to be not leaving any cookie, sol files, so I cannot erase the progress to change something and try again, maybe it is using the NG saving system (no erase button), or an external server of some kind, but nonetheless I cannot do anything about it.

Examples:
1) Big surprise - Gamezhero game lol:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/568563 - "100 Earned Money" only unlocks for 20-30 % of the players.

Ahh, I remember this game, I liked it actually. And I am among the 70%, but it is only 5 points, so no big deal.

2) http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/593406 - "What Can I Say" only unlocks for half of the players.
3) http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/597083 - "Boom Duck" doesn't spawn enough zombies to finish the challenge and even the author of the game responded to me without a solution for it.

Still will be playing these, so I'll check'em out. About the latter game: I played something very similiar to it, but I don't exactly remember what was its title.

4) Forgot name of the game - There is also a game were you fly with a joint through a flappy bird stage and when you don't die in a specific spot for a very specific amount of points you will never get the medal because it saves online and you cannot reset it.

Yeah, there are some games with ridiculous conditions for earning some medals. Do something with a specific combination of keys in a certain part of the screen in a certain amount of time or in a certain moment of the game or something like that. What's more, they are usually worth 5-10 points, so they are really not worth the effort, since they are harder to obtain than lots of 25/50/100 points medals. It's like "I ain't dyin' for this".


But I can see people unlocking the medals everyday, so they all cannot have only old Flash installed.
Correct. They don't install an old flash player. It just works. Everything above is known for the medal moderators since months or years and it doesn't seem to be fixed in the near future. I have to accept it as well as a brick falling on my head as well as everyone else. But this can be expanded -> I can only try to build it up properly that it runs as good as possible and attach every brick on my side. Newgrounds is unstable thanks to the not moderated achievement system. Meaning authors create the medals by themselves and without a "moderator" reviewing it (and with moderator I mean the person or persons who can work on the site directly - not the medal moderators moderating it).

As I know there was a rather short period in the Newgrounds' history, when all medals had to be approved by the Moderators/the Staff and every single time I play one of these older games I can be 100% sure that all the medals will work, although they are rather harder to earn, since - my personal opinion - the difficulty level of these games was much more higher than the present ones. This old medal system is still working well, although some of these games are already 5-7 years old. New medals get removed because of being broken, these ones - never.


All the other stuff is up to the authors or maybe the respective staff. And remembering how long it took the staff to fix the medal pages it will most likely never be cared of (1 year or 2 years again?). But can you really remove a medal people can unlock and guarantee a mistake on Newgrounds without someone looking into it and maybe searching the contact with the people who have the problem? Nope.

Definitely. But this would require (a lot of) more efforts, more time, more attention etc. I sometimes think about one thing: maybe the Staff should be expanded with creating of respective sections to deal with certain types of problems? I remember when I started posting info about medals from removed games: there was one game with an information "This game was deleted" (or something like that), not removed by Moderators or the author, and I remember that even Nijsse admitted that he couldn't fix that by himself. So maybe Newgrounds need more respected people to gain broader access to the Portal's servers' properities or something? I mean Newgrounds is an enormous Thing and if it should/could work as well as it is possible...

There is also another problem - the already mentioned by me medals from removed games. Since I began doing it I already posted info about 16 games like these, but this issue still hasn't been resolved. These games totally contain some thousands of points and if removed at the same time - this could cause a max-Richter-scale earthquake for the medal list and probably many people would complain if not even rage. But something has to be done about it since it gives a clear advantage for some Gamers, making them harder to catch by newly signed-in Newgrounders. It also shows that the system isn't perfect since these medals should have been removed authomatically at the moment when the game was removed.

(Speaking of Nijsse, seeing your last week above 10K gain clearly shows that you actually are going to take that No. 1 spot from him by force anyway? ;-) )


Don't get me wrong. I wrote exactly the same sentence already for multiple occasions and reported bugs directly to the moderators how they asked me to do. But in general, when there are people (and when they are only a handful of it) can unlock a medal that doesn't work for most of the other people nothing will be done about it and sometimes they don't want to do something about it for other good reasons (to identify cheaters).

I heard about it. I sometimes see almost-impossible-to-obtain medals added to some games. For example, i recently met a medal that requires to obtain a 1 000 000 cash. Ok, no problem, but! After beating all the levels you get only about 7 000, after making one upgrade you can rise it to 10 000. So I would have to repeat the entire game over 100 times...

The only thing you always hear is - people can unlock it, the problem is on your side (even when there are as the above mentioned Urban Wars up to 70% people not unlocking it - makes sense!11).

Completely logical.


But no one asked for the necessary information I could have easily given them. And a year ago after playing already for two years on Newgrounds I gave a big fuck about solving it and also didn't care. I wish you good luck and hope that the opinion of the relevant authorities on the page changed and they will help you or that you can find the solution yourself, maybe with a different version or other ideas.

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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2015-06-24 05:36:30


I can't get any medal in any game, I got one but I don't know how!

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At 6/24/15 05:36 AM, TeoSkrn wrote: I can't get any medal in any game, I got one but I don't know how!

Hmm... now that's a weird situation... I'm not going to ask whether you were playing logged in, because it is rather obvious.
Which games exactly were you trying to get medals from? Sometimes some of them could not work. Besides:
1. Were you playing online/offline? Is your Internet connection stable? When you get disconnected - the medals are not being loaded.
2. Are you using any ad-block type device? In some games using an add-on like this can block also the ability of earning medals.
3. If you proceed with the game you got the only medal from are you getting the further medals? Maybe try to check it.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2015-06-28 21:53:48


I attained some medals from this game a while back. However, the medals does not seem to work anymore.

Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2015-08-08 18:12:55


Got Though Bubble ingame, but didn't unlock on Newgrounds.

Costume Collector doesn't work. Author doesn't respond since July 23.

Fearless, Brave and Nimble don't work. I wrote the author at July 23. He responded, but nothing changed yet.


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At 8/8/15 06:12 PM, Syrreal wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/655764
Fearless, Brave and Nimble don't work. I wrote the author at July 23. He responded, but nothing changed yet.

Those medals DO work. It is just that they won't be awarded by completing the game. You must get the amount of points before the last stages.