Threats of physical violence from the Occupy Norfolk movement in Virginia if I showed up and did not comply to their rules.

Kind of silly to physically assault someone because a private person is not following your group's rules in a public space.

At 7/3/10 11:53 AM, Bacchanalian wrote:

At 7/3/10 11:47 AM, Musician wrote: Anything written by Memorize.

Seriously, what is wrong with that guy?

Or Warforger! That guy is seriously fucked up and demented and would never last 2 minutes in any military on earth or any other planet in boot camp! Just another ideal quagmire flunkey: Viet Nam, Watergate, Iraq, Gitmo, Abu Grahb and so on.

He called me a little bitch in PM :(

Well I'm sorry you had to deal with a fucker like that and I too had to deal with another fucker like that! But I want you and everyone else to know this:

The only reason people make fun of other people is because they have absolutely no security in themselves whatsoever and have to make other people feel bad about themselves as well. And always are more likely of being themselves than of the accusations they are making. So to them I say: Don't come to me or anyone else with your problems I don't need 'em! There are private institutions for that! People you can pay to make your problems go away and since I've neither the certificate nor the license TAKE IT TO SOMEONE WHO DOES!

At 10/19/11 01:18 AM, Iron-Claw wrote: The only reason people make fun of other people is because they have absolutely no security in themselves whatsoever and have to make other people feel bad about themselves as well.

not the dumbest argument ever but i find its a little overused, especially in the context of bullies. being a dick is fun sometimes. :D

most speciallees on the interwebs.

people saying that weed should be legal bacause alcohol and tabacco are

Creationists trying to prove dinosaurs and humans existed at the same time by claiming that remains of a Plesiosaur were discovered in 1977.

Baring in mind that the tissue samples recovered from the trawler before the carcass was tossed over board showed that the analysis of the amino acids are only ever found in a shark that exist today.

But hey, who said that creationists ever did their homework? They still can't understand the word "theory".

At 7/1/10 10:40 AM, Amoebaman wrote: That humans have absolutely nothing to do with climate change just because it has happened many times before without us.

Wheres your proof that humans do have anything to do with climate change? I'd like to know.

At 7/1/10 04:02 PM, The-universe wrote: Here's a list:

1. If gays were allowed to marry it would corrupt families, overturn society and bring the human race to extinction.

I know right? How would anyone come to that conclusion anyway? What since gays can get married we're all gonna turn gay, I think not.

2. There's no such thing as a man being raped by a woman.

Duh, it's called mind rape.

3. Prayer healing works because my aunts best friend had a son and her husband was impotent.

Sounds like either a lie or a faulty doctor.

4. 9/11 was an inside job. the moon landing was fake (general conspiracy theories).

Totally, our own government bombed the world trade center because...it benefited them? Please.

5. Evolution can't be proven because of moon dust.

Lol. I wouldn't even know what to say about that. All I know is that evolution has a chance of being proven, which is more than can be said for any religion.

6. The Holocaust didn't happen.

I've never actually heard someone say this, but I've heard it before. Try telling the soldiers who walked out to see the first recorded internment camp that the holocaust didn't happen.

7. I'm right because (insert celebrity name here) believes what I do.

What makes a celebrity more important than a normal person, nothing, that's what.

8. Dinosaurs didn't exist (thank you for that one Texas).

The only reason anyone would say that is because the existent of dinosaurs nearly disproves almost every religion known to man. Poor bastards.

9. *anything from fox news*

Lol.

That women should be allowed the same rights as men.

At 10/25/11 07:03 AM, Riott wrote: I know right? How would anyone come to that conclusion anyway? What since gays can get married we're all gonna turn gay, I think not.

I can't even wrap my head around how they came to thinking it.

Duh, it's called mind rape.

Rape is rape, still the same regardless of gender.

Sounds like either a lie or a faulty doctor.

Everytime I talk to someone who believes in 'faith healing' there's always an anecdotal account that's been passed round through word of mouth with no ability to analyse any sort of evidence whatsoever. There was one on here not long ago about a woman and breast cancer.

Because in the world of prayer, religion and miracles, anecdotal is the only kind of evidence.

Totally, our own government bombed the world trade center because...it benefited them? Please.

New world order. I'll ask Charlie Sheen.

Lol. I wouldn't even know what to say about that.

The basic claim is that the sedimentary deposition rate on the moon is not quick enough to indicate an earth any older than 10,000 years otherwise the layer would be much thicker.

Answers in genesis even refuted this claim.

All I know is that evolution has a chance of being proven, which is more than can be said for any religion.

Evolution is proven, there's no chance about it. The only parts that are uncertain about are snippets.

I've never actually heard someone say this, but I've heard it before. Try telling the soldiers who walked out to see the first recorded internment camp that the holocaust didn't happen.

The same thing can be said about 9/11. I dare any truther to walk up to the families of the 9/11 victims and say they're living on an island, or whatever they're spouting these days.

What makes a celebrity more important than a normal person, nothing, that's what.

Go on youtube and type 'famous (vegetarian, christian, liberal etc)' and you'll get an enormous result.

I remember one occasion where someone posted a list of vegetarian celebrities and well known figures. So I (jokingly) posted a list, primarily famous criminals and dictators like Hitler. But baring in mind Hitler was a Flexitarian, not a vegetarian. They didn't even dispute that! They just said he's not a 'true' vegetarian because he was morally corrupt.

The only reason anyone would say that is because the existent of dinosaurs nearly disproves almost every religion known to man. Poor bastards.

Only if you believe in a creation story that conflicts with what is currently known.

At 10/15/11 09:25 AM, Dromedary wrote: A lot of Christian based arguments, such as "Dinosaurs didn't exist"

That's not so much an argument as a (bad) assumption.

A Keynesian once tried to mathematically prove to me that socialism (government ownership of means of production) can work.

Theists, regardless of their education and evidence of understanding will never know what evolution is.

I've just had this debate on youtube. Apparently being a biologist for over 4 decades who regularly debates creationism means they have no clue about evolution simply because they're religious themselves.

"Reverse Racism and Racism are exactly the same thing."

Well for those of you who did not have the luxury of attending the public school forum at all let me inform you of what "Reverse Racism" is which goes as follows:

Reverse Racism is when a person of a certain race is treated BETTER deliberately specifically because they are that race in which is not racist it is in actuality the very opposite it's hospitality to an individual of that certain race not necessarily a "bad thing" one could hypothetically be offended by such but as far as I'm concerned if you're gonna be nicer to me because I'm either German, English, Irish, Nordic, Italian, French or Native American I won't stop ya.

I'd say anyone and everyone who ever came out against Michael Moore because of his movies and these same individuals openly admit to having never seen a single Michael Moore movie. I tell ya writing bad reviews for movies you've never even seen is a high grossing natural product! Just like Roeper!

Not regarding politics... but shit... a complete violation of mathematics.

Was talking to a kid who was doing a little dice rolling gambling thing with his friends. He was about 10, taking little lunch food bets on the roll of a dice. Heard him say that "1-2 wins, 3-6 loses... the odds are in your favour".

Told him they weren't. He informed me that "They have a 33% chance of winning, which is like a 60% chance, so I'll lose"

wasn't even mad

At 11/11/11 02:27 AM, Iron-Claw wrote: I'd say anyone and everyone who ever came out against Michael Moore because of his movies and these same individuals openly admit to having never seen a single Michael Moore movie

Please, the vast majority of his critics have seen his films. They're fucking retarded pieces of shit.

At 11/17/11 11:35 PM, SadisticMonkey wrote: They're fucking retarded pieces of shit.

I wouldn't be this dramatic, but I'd have to agree with the overall concept. Michael Moore's movies are pretty biased in a way that more or less tells the other (i.e. not Michael Moore's) side of an argument to go to Hell. Every time I've seen his movies, I've always wanted him to honestly and openly allow those who disagree with him to do so in a manner that feels like he's not trying to belittle them.

At 11/8/11 01:51 AM, Iron-Claw wrote: "Reverse Racism and Racism are exactly the same thing."

Well for those of you who did not have the luxury of attending the public school forum at all let me inform you of what "Reverse Racism" is which goes as follows:

Reverse Racism is when a person of a certain race is treated BETTER deliberately specifically because they are that race in which is not racist it is in actuality the very opposite it's hospitality to an individual of that certain race not necessarily a "bad thing" one could hypothetically be offended by such but as far as I'm concerned if you're gonna be nicer to me because I'm either German, English, Irish, Nordic, Italian, French or Native American I won't stop ya.

By definition, holding different standards for employment and college/medical school acceptance based on race IS racism. I don't care if the race that benefits "deserves it" or has had tough times in the past, if the color of your skin is a determining factor, that's racism. End of story. If it's easier for a white man to find a job, that's racism. If it's easier for a black man to find a job than a white man, that's still racism. It's the same thing. I'm not saying reverse racism is at the same magnitude as some of the extreme racism we have had in the past or racism that still goes on today. I'm saying that by definition of the word "racist" discriminating against white people is racism.

- Evolution could not have happened because monkeys always give birth to monkeys and people always give birth to people. A monkey cannot give birth to a person...
- Gay marriage should never be legalized. If a man is allowed to marry a man, what's to stop him from wanting to marry a goat? After gay marriage people will be demanding to marry animals (same argument was used against interracial marriage)
- The Palestinians have no right to be angry because there were no people living in Palestine when Israel was founded. That land was uninhabited until the Israelis got there, and the arabs only moved in from Jordan because Israel was such a nice country.
- Christianity must be true! <insert convert story here/> (You can also replace the word "Christianity" with "Islam". I've heard this bullshit from both religions)

Anyone heard the banana argument for Creationism? That's a good one. Ever noticed how a banana fits snugly into a human hand? Well, that can't possibly be a coincidence! Ergo evolution is impossible.

I'm totally serious. Here's a Youtube video where Creationist moustache Ray Comfort and fellow Rhodes Scholar Kirk Cameron decimate the keystone of natural science with nothing more than a ripe banana and a healthy dose of homosexual subtext. Eye-opening stuff.

"Atheists "know" god exists, they're just rebellious and don't want to live by his word."

"People are only gay because they haven't met the right person of the opposite sex."
"It's better to live your life in utter servitude to god, die and find out he's not real than to live your life thinking god is real then find out he isn't."
-_-;; Our species is fucked.

*Corrected* "It's better to live your life in utter servitude to god, die and find out he's not real than to live your life thinking god isn't real then find out he is."

Whoops, fail.

At 10/19/11 05:03 PM, kakalxlax wrote: people saying that weed should be legal bacause alcohol and tabacco are

People who didn't pay attention to how the Prohibition act went in history class.

At 11/30/11 08:10 PM, Flashchildren wrote:

At 10/19/11 05:03 PM, kakalxlax wrote: people saying that weed should be legal bacause alcohol and tabacco are

People who didn't pay attention to how the Prohibition act went in history class.

There is a difference between the Prohibition act and current prohibition of weed, mostly that alcohol was a major part of society back then and even the people who made and enforced the law didn't even want to follow it. Back then it wasn't uncommon for a man to receive his paycheck and then go waste most or all of it on alcohol.

You miss the point. If people want to drink, or to smoke weed, the law isn't going to stop them.

At 11/30/11 08:58 PM, Flashchildren wrote: You miss the point. If people want to drink, or to smoke weed, the law isn't going to stop them.

That statement actually belongs in this thread because it is extremely stupid. If that was the point of that argument then you could literally say the same thing about any law. Murder is illegal but people still do it. It's a weak attempt to compare two completely separate forms of prohibition to make it seem like pot should be legal. And the idea that legalizing a harmful substance is right just because there are other harmful substances that are currently legal really is a stupid argument.

At 11/19/11 11:12 AM, Tanglewood wrote: Anyone heard the banana argument for Creationism?

oh, yeah, that's a classic.

At 11/30/11 09:26 PM, djack wrote:

At 11/30/11 08:58 PM, Flashchildren wrote: You miss the point. If people want to drink, or to smoke weed, the law isn't going to stop them.

Murder is illegal but people still do it.

Indeed but murder imposes upon someones fundamental right to live, and will likely be investigated further by the law in search of justice.

Using drugs is a personal choice that doesn't hurt anyone other than the user and possibly their loved ones and often happens behind closed doors.
When the law is involved with drugs the "justice" is served when the cops confiscate all drugs, paraphernalia, and assets (money, expensive shit) and fine the users and dealers then send them to jail accordingly.

I don't know the stats of illegal drug use in America but as Flashchildren pointed out they exist, people turned addicts manage to find drugs and use theme regularly even though they are illegal (Intervention and DEA are popular shows right now for reason). Does the government ultimately make more money with drugs being illegal? Hard to say since they spend so much annually to enforce it. Would there be less crime if they did legalize all drugs? Maybe.

My point is this a complex argument. especially when you consider the death rates associated with both Alcohol and Tobacco compared to the non-fatal tendencies of marijuana the #1 most popular illegal drug.

At 11/30/11 10:28 PM, brainface wrote:

At 11/30/11 09:26 PM, djack wrote:

At 11/30/11 08:58 PM, Flashchildren wrote: You miss the point. If people want to drink, or to smoke weed, the law isn't going to stop them.

Murder is illegal but people still do it.

Indeed but murder imposes upon someones fundamental right to live, and will likely be investigated further by the law in search of justice.

Using drugs is a personal choice that doesn't hurt anyone other than the user and possibly their loved ones and often happens behind closed doors.
When the law is involved with drugs the "justice" is served when the cops confiscate all drugs, paraphernalia, and assets (money, expensive shit) and fine the users and dealers then send them to jail accordingly.

I don't know the stats of illegal drug use in America but as Flashchildren pointed out they exist, people turned addicts manage to find drugs and use theme regularly even though they are illegal (Intervention and DEA are popular shows right now for reason). Does the government ultimately make more money with drugs being illegal? Hard to say since they spend so much annually to enforce it. Would there be less crime if they did legalize all drugs? Maybe.

My point is this a complex argument. especially when you consider the death rates associated with both Alcohol and Tobacco compared to the non-fatal tendencies of marijuana the #1 most popular illegal drug.

And all of that can be used to form a cohesive argument that doesn't sound stupid (it can be debated but it isn't stupid), however his attempt to use alcohol prohibition as an example of why pot prohibition is bad and his claim that the argument wasn't about the way prohibition worked out but to point out that people will still smoke even if it's illegal are both very stupid.

And all of that can be used to form a cohesive argument that doesn't sound stupid (it can be debated but it isn't stupid), however his attempt to use alcohol prohibition as an example of why pot prohibition is bad and his claim that the argument wasn't about the way prohibition worked out but to point out that people will still smoke even if it's illegal are both very stupid.

All the stuff he explained to you is basic logic. Maybe you could use a few tutorials on it, eh?