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At 7/18/10 11:56 AM, KidneyThief wrote: So you are arguing that homosexual incest should still be illegal simply because most people would frown upon it? Considering there are no repercussions, I don't see why homosexual incest should be illegal. The thought of it isn't at all enticing to me, but people should have the freedom to do as they will so long as their actions don't have a negative outcome for others.
I would consider it to be illegal because it should be just as bad as straight incest. You want to give gays their rights, don't you? So if they commit crimes in the same manner as the heterosexual, they should not have any priviledges or anything. I assume it would make those wanting straight incest jealous. There is no evidence that incest is biologically drived like homosexuality.
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At 7/18/10 05:01 AM, Rigormort1s wrote: All forms of incest should be illegal. It's not the medieval ages anymore, date outside your kin. And what kind of fucking weirdo is attracted to their sibling anyway?
Exactly. Slippery slope argument fails when original argument is morally, ethically, and scientifically wrong to begin with.
If incest were to be legalized only for homosexuals it would provoke a massive wave of reactions all over the world...people against incest would rage because it would be "morally wrong", and people for incest would rage because they'd want straight incest to be legalized as well...and come on, there are so many guys out there, why the hell would anyone want to marry a member of their own family?That's just lazy.
So, in short, no, it's a horrible idea.
incest is incest? Man, i hope you're bein' sarcastic.
So if the argument is more about taboo than law, you're gonna have a much tougher time getting past it. People accept change in law as read because it's law, but if you act against generations-old tradition, people may do nasty things to you regardless of what law says.
yeah, it's wrong, but that's how peoples is.
I'm just going to be blunt here.
As long as it's consensual and at a certain age you know what your risking, all sex should be legal.
Sorry everyone but I say just go ahead and do it.At least gay incest can't product babies like straight incest can,and you or the state will not have to worry about a straight incest produced baby.Sorry but I don't see the problem or harm I have been having gay incest sex with my dad & two brothers (all blood related) since I was 10 years old & still doing it and loving it and I 'm 40 now and feel that I'm as normal as I can be no matter what anyone says.
This is a rather post btw.
I think that incest is incest regardless if it involves homosexual sex. Therefore it should be illegal.
Ignoring the several moral ramifications of incest(regardless of sexuality) that is condemned by most people and religion, from a SCIENTIFIC outlook incest should be illegal. A species prospers when theirs genetic diversity. A concept incest spits upon.
Also their is the fact that our brain generates a taboo on this subject. Reason why you don't wanna bang your mom. To somehow destroy this mental blocker proves that their is a mental problem in the recipient.
Summed Up: People who take part in incest NEED psychiatric help.
At 8/3/10 01:51 AM, TheFarseer wrote: People who take part in incest NEED psychiatric help.
You NEED psychiatric help.
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This topic is a bit of a strange one for me, seeing that my best friends are gay incest. They are twins, one minute apart, and identical. Yeah sure they keep pretty damn quiet but that doesn't mean that they aren't incest. I think it should be legal. You can't help who you love, after all.
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At 12/14/10 08:08 AM, InvisiblePoo wrote: incest should be illegal. all kinds of incest.
Would you mind explaining?
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Being gay should be illegal (it already is in 86 countries around the world)
Incest should be illegal (it is almost as disgusting as homosexuality)
Therefore, there should be no argument that gay incest should be illegal.
At 7/5/10 08:41 PM, Haszor wrote: There is no direct opposition to gay marriage in any of the founding documents of the country. However due to the culture of the time we can understand why. It simply wasn't done or thought of so the Founding Fathers may have not thought to put it in due to the fact that it was so widely accepted at the time. However depending on how you argue it, the Constitution does give us freedom of religion which could possibly be translated to mean that gay marriage could be legal.
I am afraid this isn't true, there has been homosexuality throughout human history, since long before we could even be considered 'human'
At 1/23/10 01:51 PM, Goht wrote: I have nothing against Gay persons as long as they don't try to fuck me or to make me gay, too.
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Isn't all incest illegal?
I would think that gay incest and hereto incest would be treated no differently.
At 1/23/10 01:54 AM, TokingFire wrote: Look--if it's between two consenting adults, and while I'm at it, if does not produce any mutant offspring, I don't think we should waste our tax dollars and time on discussing it, really.
I totally agree with this statement.
At 10/4/09 05:57 PM, fli wrote: do people actually want to have sex with their relatives?
I wanted to have sex with my cousin when I was 7.
I never learned what sex was until I was 8, though.
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Just so we're all clear on this...
... to all of you rejecting the notion that incest should be illegal...
... WE KNOW YOU WANT TO PLOW YOUR RELATIVES.
At 10/4/09 01:46 PM, ohbombuh wrote: There's no way that two non-hermaphroditic members of the same sex could produce a child, so inbreeding arguments are done there.
Correct. I don't see a problem with two men or two women having sex with each other, even if they are related. Obviously I think they as well as everybody should be encouraged to educate themselves on protection against STIs and so on.
As for Biblical precedent, homosexual activity and incest are forbidden in the same chapter of the Bible (Leviticus 18--According to gay rights supporters this book was entirely made up, so you can go argue on either of the separate issues).
Yeah, "religious reasons" are a complete non-starter. If biblefuckers want to refrain from having sex with anyone, they're welcome to sit at home talking about how great god is or whatever it is they do.
I now officially open this controversial mess to the public!
If there's no chance of a baby being produced, I don't see the problem. The only real reason why incest might be illegal is because it can create a child with developmental problems, behavioural problems, etc. But if this isn't going to happen, let the two adults do whatever they want with each other behind closed doors.
As disgusting as gay incest is, straight incest is even worse as conception is possible.
As long as everyone involved is making an informed decision, is consenting freely and not misled, what's the issue?
the reason this shit won't be legal is that the politician that will try and legalize it will be hated by almost all of his "fans" and no politician wants to lose his "fans" over something stupid as gay incest.
I see no reason for it to be illegal, but it sounds gross. That's just me though, I don't care what other people do in the bedroom. So I guess I'm pro-homosexual incest. Better go tell my dad.
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At 12/29/10 09:28 PM, studmuffin7 wrote: Gay anything should be illegal.
Being as stupid as you are should be illegal.
First and foremost, "marriage" is a religious rite, developed under religious guidelines over the course of millennia. In my humble opinion, there is a distinct separation between the "sacrament" of marriage and the legal "contract" of marriage. For example, many religions will not recognize a marriage unless the ceremony is performed by the church and sanctified by a priest, minister or rabbi. It is, after all, the ultimate expression and example on earth of two becoming one. If done right, it is sacred, light years beyond contractual banalities.
If a gay couple goes as far as wanting to "marry", then I assume they view marriage in the spiritual sense. If this is so, then the odds of insanity on the part of the couple is rather unlikely. This being the case, I'm thinking incest of any kind would fall in to the anathema category.
Homosexuality and incest are not synonymous. Actually, when one views the statistics, one realizes that when it comes to incest, the Moral Minority should spend a little more time policing their own as opposed to worrying about things which don't involve them.
At 1/23/10 10:14 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: No voluntary arrangement between individuals, stigmatized or not, should be illegalized. Period. And It always strikes me as strange that people, especially some of the left-wing Atheists, are willing to permit any voluntary behaviour as long as it is sexual or involves drugs, but as soon as MONEY is involved it becomes a sacrilege. People can sell themselfs for sex, but they can't sell themselves for any amount LOWER than 7.50$ an hour.
I'm also curious why Gay incest is the topic of discussion. Is it somehow less disgusting than Heterosexual incest?
For the record, you may be interested to know there are gay, as well as atheist, conservatives. Many, actually. Your understanding of liberals and the left is far from accurate and appears to be a word for word diatribe of all the righty talkers. It's a characeture and little else. For example, I am a Democrat, Christian, pro-union, and fiscally conservative. Yet I am also socially liberal, which means I don't want to spend tax dollars folloowing every pregnancy in the nation in order to make sure women are forced to bear their rapists child. Like that.