At 4/8/09 12:36 AM, galatea1 wrote:

Chocolate has some benefit. Used in moderation, it supplies energy, contains small amounts of antioxidants and harmlessly raises endorphin levels. It is a food, and we need food. We do not need porn, really, of any kind. To me, loli and shouta are even worse than the usual.

"Used in moderation"

I'm not talking about moderation though, I'm talking about over doing something. Alcohol then, try and argue that one away. You get alkies, they do need to drink yes, but water is always available in countries that had easy supply to booze, yet people get addicted to it and drink more. Still it's not meant to be drunk like that, so it is the persons fault completely.

We don't need porn? I'm on the fence with that one. Every adult has sexual urges. In terms of us as animals those urges are to get us making babies, but in terms of us as humans, we don't want to have babies everytime we get horny. Just want to have fun, if you can't have fun with a partner then what's left? Masturbation is not a sin, therefore porn is not a sin.

At 4/8/09 12:59 AM, Gagsy wrote:

We don't need porn? I'm on the fence with that one. Every adult has sexual urges. In terms of us as animals those urges are to get us making babies, but in terms of us as humans, we don't want to have babies everytime we get horny. Just want to have fun, if you can't have fun with a partner then what's left? Masturbation is not a sin, therefore porn is not a sin.

Most religions either blatantly or subtley condemn fornication as a sin. Therefore, if fornication is a sin, wouldn't looking at it and supporting it be a sin?

You can masturbate without porn.

Alcohol also has some nutritional and health benefits, by the way. :D

At 4/8/09 01:08 AM, galatea1 wrote: if fornication is a sin, wouldn't looking at it and supporting it be a sin?

not all pornography depicts sinful behavior

By the way, am I the reason you started this thread? If you look at my profile, you'll notice I removed all my lolicon flashes. And, I don't plan to make any more of them.

At 4/8/09 01:18 AM, Dark-Kitten wrote:

At 4/8/09 01:08 AM, galatea1 wrote: if fornication is a sin, wouldn't looking at it and supporting it be a sin?

not all pornography depicts sinful behavior

By the way, am I the reason you started this thread? If you look at my profile, you'll notice I removed all my lolicon flashes. And, I don't plan to make any more of them.

Actually, I had several members in mind; but I'm glad to know you've removed yours. Your flashes were good; you didn't need that crap messing it up!!
(I really liked Kat Stacker!)

pedophilia is specified as a form of paraphilia in which a person either has acted on intense sexual urges towards children or experiences recurrent sexual urges towards and fantasies about children that cause distress or interpersonal difficulty

So you are only a pedophile if you act on the urge. Otherwise it's just a fetish like spandex or other things. So how is anyone getting hurt for you rubbing one out to some pictures of a nude child? I find that a much better alternative to going out and raping a child.

At 4/8/09 01:44 AM, MasterRater wrote: pedophilia is specified as a form of paraphilia in which a person either has acted on intense sexual urges towards children or experiences recurrent sexual urges towards and fantasies about children that cause distress or interpersonal difficulty

Your description mentions that merely having very strong urges qualifies as pedophilia. So, wouldn't masturbating to graphic images of children qualify?

At 4/8/09 01:44 AM, MasterRater wrote: pedophilia is specified as a form of paraphilia in which a person either has acted on intense sexual urges towards children or experiences recurrent sexual urges towards and fantasies about children that cause distress or interpersonal difficulty

So you are only a pedophile if you act on the urge.

no, plz read your definition more carefully. It says you can be one if you have sexual inclinations toward children that "cause distress or interpersonal difficulty"

At 4/8/09 01:08 AM, galatea1 wrote:

Most religions either blatantly or subtley condemn fornication as a sin. Therefore, if fornication is a sin, wouldn't looking at it and supporting it be a sin?

Religious beliefs as an argument. Hmm, good luck with that. That'll stop my body from tingling. God doesn't want me to get turned on so I won't! Tell that to horny priests.

You can masturbate without porn.

And I do usually, but that's not the point.

Alcohol also has some nutritional and health benefits, by the way. :D

Lolicon isn't bad for you in moderation. In fact, it eases a certain tension in my body, which I'd say is a good thing =] I don't feel the urge to go further with my desires, but if I did it wouldn't be Japans fault, just mine.

At 4/8/09 01:47 AM, galatea1 wrote: Your description mentions that merely having very strong urges qualifies as pedophilia. So, wouldn't masturbating to graphic images of children qualify?

The definition I used was from wikipedia. I just believe that if you have a sexual attraction to children you are not a pedophile unless you act upon those urges as I mentioned in my retort to the definition.

At 4/8/09 01:48 AM, Gagsy wrote:

At 4/8/09 01:08 AM, galatea1 wrote:

Most religions either blatantly or subtley condemn fornication as a sin. Therefore, if fornication is a sin, wouldn't looking at it and supporting it be a sin?

Religious beliefs as an argument. Hmm, good luck with that.

Weren't you the one to mention sin? Without some belief in a higher power, there is no sin. That's why I used this reference.

At 4/7/09 11:48 PM, Digital-Terror wrote: As long as real children aren't suffering, it's fine with me.

This^

At 4/8/09 01:52 AM, galatea1 wrote:

Weren't you the one to mention sin? Without some belief in a higher power, there is no sin. That's why I used this reference.

Sin = Something bad/taboo

To me anything it doesn't have to do with religion.

What the hell just happened to this thread?

At 4/8/09 01:56 AM, Gagsy wrote:

Sin = Something bad/taboo

To me anything it doesn't have to do with religion.

Typo city.

To me anyway it doesn't have to do with religion.

Seriously as long as people aren't hurting children, what's the problem?

You must click on some crazy topics to actually see hentai on the forums. Just saying.
Luckily for me, I've got this.

It is fucking gross. It just screams pedo to me. I don;t care if it is cartoons, it still encourages that kind of behavior.

You can't compare cartoon to real life.
That's a child's mistake due to the poor perception of reality, that usually is easily corrected by experience or good parents.

Like take a cartoon or an anime that is obscenely violent, it doesn't make you want to kill something, or kick some guy's ass.
Just like Loli or Shota, viewing cartoon porn involving children should not make you want to fuck children, even by some awkward scenario in which you are impulsively aroused by it.

Granted there is an influence around it that pedophiles use as an excuse, but that's the pedophiles' fault, not the content.

It's a matter of preference, which I do not prefer for the record, but I do wonder about the artist of such immoral pictures.

At 4/7/09 11:47 PM, galatea1 wrote:

, "it's not real child porn. A cartoon can't be a victim". I myself do think it is child porn.

technically it cant be child porn b/c it is not a living child its most likly a cartoon(dont kno havent actually looked at this stuff) The fact is its merely a cartoona nd if we could get pedos 2 look at this, they might stop messing wit children!!

Nice signature ya got there, knuxrouge...

I'm fine with what people do in their own home. As long as it isn't terrorism.
But (according to YOU, gala), people are putting up loli and shota pics in the forums. I don't think that's something to share on a public site.

At 4/8/09 12:44 AM, Dark-Kitten wrote: I don't like lolicon because the girls don't look real enough.

Ok... you are one creepy little girl. Plus, it seems you use lolicon pics in your Flashes.

At 4/8/09 02:33 AM, Robotchk12 wrote: Plus, it seems you use lolicon pics in your Flashes.

like I said, I removed them (or tried to) the only left is one but it has over 400 votes so I can't remove it.

At 4/8/09 02:13 AM, BenwaHakubi wrote: It is fucking gross. It just screams pedo to me. I don;t care if it is cartoons, it still encourages that kind of behavior.

In England, sometimes the spell is paedo.

If you watch shotacon, your eyes will bleed. Literally.

Lolicon...I don't find it THAT disgusting, but I don't like it either.

WELL, I find lolicon to actually be better for me. Since I am at a young age I gradually start picking up on older woman and try to keep my age, so I use Lolicon to see girls at my age, and since I am into Hentai I really like it.
same heer mannnnnn

It disturbs me...
however, if it doesn't hurt any child, then it's none of my business.

After all,
I think entertainment is disturbing in general.

I mean-- it's sort of baffling how we react to things.
A cartoon kid in the nude gets a bunch of pissed off people.

Yet, those people wouldn't compare robbing a car in GTA, fucking a prostitute, then killing her with a gun-- as an especially disturbing thing. To them, it's fun.

I wouldn't ban it, but I wouldn't watch that either.
In any case, I don't think watching cartoons is sexy at all. I just don't get it... it's something very new in my opinion. What ever happened to the good ol' days when kids would catch a flash of a titty in a national geographic and think they're hardcore???

At 4/7/09 11:47 PM, galatea1 wrote: "it's not real child porn. A cartoon can't be a victim". I myself do think it is child porn.

A drawing of a murder isn't a murder. A drawing of an underage child is not an underage child.

Ceci n'est pas une pipe

Stop giving a shit about what goes on here.

Or anywhere for that matter.
But especially here.