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Loss

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These are the times in which humanity grieves for all of those we have loss due to war and injustice. Life is fleeting and we should appreciate the precious moments that we have with our friends and family for we do not know when that time shall end.

Composed in Fruity Loops with the Nexus plugin.
This was made for the NGAUC.

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Good one

So I love the deep sound here on this one and as the title says LOSS it fits so well with the sound and deep sound at that, also have some good quality on this one, anyways great tune here

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Hi there.

Other reviewers have hit upon some good points mainly, about production, but for me, fundamentally it didn't really hit the tone of loss or grief. Of course music is subjective and what hits one person in the gut might not another, but hopefully I can offer you a useful critique none-the-less

It started off nicely with that cello introduction gently leading you into the piece, but I felt after that it lost its way. It goes through some stoic progressions, and I certainly get a defiant vibe from the whole piece, but it feels far too often like it rambles without really saying anything. Other reviewers have described the track as 'cinematic' and I'd agree insofar as that I could see this working as the sketch of a track at the end of a Hollywood movie, and that the chord progressions are prototypical modern day action/drama, but I don't feel like the music ever latches onto me, tugs on my heartstrings or pulls me into a narrative, and ultimately that's really what cinematic music is about.

To make the broad heroic statements more effective, I think you needed some gentler stuff to contrast them, and the broader statements could've been more full. Once the introduction is completed, the music goes on in the same key, the same defiant tone, the same volume level, and broadly the same instrumentation. It's almost like the music is a constant climax, and that can be wearying to listen to. Some variation in tone and instrumentation would've helped.

For example, the contrabass is ever-present in the track and I think that makes it a lot less effective and a lot more tiring to listen to. Having even a small section where you drop the bass frequencies can really help. After-all, how can it make much impact if it's just sitting there the whole time? Think of the music that sends chills down your spine, often it's the moments where there's a change that give you that moment, that don't let you get too comfortable, that tug on your heart. For example at 3:11, the track is *crying* out for a change of pace, or instrumentation or tone and it continues in the same vain, essentially restating what was said in the previous couple of phrases. Sometimes you have a to be a bit analytical with your music, as you would an essay and ask 'does this really need to be said? Am I making a relevant point here?'.

As cliché as it may sound, I really think a dash of woodwinds could've brought out some of the emotions you describe in the author comments. There is no also no real clear melody in this piece, and while that's certainly not a requirement for a composition to be good, it can definitely help when you're going for melancholia. It can also help anchor your composition and stop you getting aimless, and simply writing 'stuff' because you have that reference point to return to, and manipulate.

Production-wise, others have written plenty and you said yourself you're only getting started with the software. Needless to say you want your strings to sound less cluttered, and flow together nicer, you could try increasing the attack a bit, a small does of EQ to bring out the better frequencies.

With as critical as I sound, it's not a bad piece of music and I hope my comments are taken in the spirit of self-improvement. Good luck with future work!

Bardash responds:

Thank you very much for your comments! I appreciate your feedback. I am hoping that with my next composition to expand even more into the realm of patternless composition. As expressed earlier, I have a tendency to fall in love with a certain chord progression and/or melody and repeat it ad infinitum perhaps with slight variations here and there. Fruity Loops tends to make that very easy to accomplish. Thank you again for taking the time to share your comments!!

I love the emotion and instruments. It definitely encapsulates sadness/grief very well. It also feels very cinematic and climactic. It's pretty minimalistic throughout, but in its simplicity is also its beauty. That string sample is rather good as well. I like the variations in style you start using at 2:09 by introducing more staccato elements. These variations really highlight the contrasting high-point in emotion at around 2:45. Despite its incessant beauty, however, I feel like it was a bit long-winded for a stand-alone piece (without the accompanying movie, that is). The transition with the crash at 4:17 was nice, although the slight delay you had on the second crash threw me off a bit...it didn't seem completely natural that way IMO. I also would've perhaps liked to see you do something a bit riskier and grander (add some horn solo or something, perhaps), but as it is it's beautiful nevertheless. In the future, it'd be good to vary the chord progression a little more, although I might make an exception for this piece which utilizes its simplicity so well. Good job!

8.5/10

Bardash responds:

Thank you for your review!

I appreciate your thoughts and comments. The string sample I am using is Rich StringsSoft from Nexus2-Hollywood Expansion 2. It is by far in my opinion so pleasant to listen to after having been subject to violins that sounded like saxaphones when listening to midi instruments play my compositions throughout most of my life. For one of my next possible challenges, I will see if I can seamlessly tie together two completely different themes.

Anyway, thank you again for the review!

This is a NGAUC review. Points of interest and points of improvement will be brought up, and as such, the review will be stricter than usual.

Right off the bat, you start off with sinister low strings that remind me of the music used in films about WWII. The air is bleak, and atmospheric.

Your chords are STUNNING. And your mixing has improved by leaps and bounds since I last heard your work, I notice a wider sound than usual. When the violins come in, it is chilling, haunting, and almost brought tears to my eyes. Only downside is the repeating chord sequence, I suggest that it be varied a bit, as sections change. With that comes another down point, the melodies are equally repetitive.

New chords could pave the way for new melodies, and even theming (as in the case of sonatas and symphonies, for instance) -- where you could use fragments of what you originally started with.

The pounding contrabass is powerful and reminds me of the enemy's constant campaign, but in the midst of all the other strings, it cannot be heard. I suggest that you equalise your instruments a bit better -- frequencies tend to overlap, and the contrabass would sound at its most powerful at 100Hz or lower. In a piece like this, your basses are the foundation, and need to be heard clearly for solid grounding.

Your cymbal rolls sound natural, and you end very naturally, a bit of a dying away.

Overall, a powerful piece and a commendable effort in bringing an atmosphere, a memory, to listeners' ears. Bit of variation, bit of EQ, and you're on your way.

7.9/10.

Bardash responds:

Thank you very much for your comments! This composition once again took form on its own and was inspired by a recent tragedy in the United States, but also speaks for tragedies across the globe. EQ'ing is a new frontier for me and I have quite a bit to learn in that field. For that reason, I can only hope that I have a real orchestra at my fingertips some day. This time the theme is eight bars long and once I have a theme that I fall in love with, it becomes difficult to move beyond that theme and explore other variations. I tried to put a little variance in when the horns came in to help counter the repetition of the main theme. Anyway, thank you again for your review! I always hold what you have to say in high esteem because of your extraordinary knowledge and talent.

This theme is what drives me to write via literature or in music.
I enjoyed the atmosphere that your strings were able to provide. Though, there needs to be more automation curves. For this piece, I get the sense that the strings should have a more of a slow attack/ legato sound. Perhaps some rubato. Nevertheless, I still think this is good and pleasing to my ears to listen to. The tempo is just right. The basses in the beginning could use some more non-chord tones that don't resolve as quickly especially for this kind of somber mood that you're going for. By the last minute of this piece, I can easily stop the analytical mode of thinking when listening and just allowing it to wash over me. I think perhaps I'm going to go back to this for inspiration.

Bardash responds:

Thank you very kindly for your review. I am both humbled and honored. I am hoping as I learn more about Fruity Loops to develop a more 'human' sound to my music. Having composed in Finale and Print Music for a great deal of my life, owning a program that I feel I am only using two percent of its potential, composing has become all the more overwhelming in the sense that I have a broader frontier now to explore. I just recently discovered how to increase the stereo effect by simply fiddling with a few knobs. Anyway, thank you again for your review. Your music serves as an inspiration to me.

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