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Nov 28, 2013 | 11:47 PM EST
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2.3 MB
2 min 29 sec
4.56 / 5.00

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Rated 4.56 / 5 stars
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Electronic - Techno

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Writing music after my last NGADM piece is pretty nervewracking because I'm sure everyone's gonna flood it and be like "omg this isn't as good as your last piece YOU SUCK." Yeah, it's not, and you know what? Too bad. Writing NGADM quality pieces is really stressful and if I kept it up much longer I would burn out.

Anywho TheDoor6 challenged me to write some dance music once, so with that in mind I started writing this track... but then I realized that I have no idea what dance music sounds like, and it definitely doesn't sound like this.

Maybe I could picture some aliens dancing to it though.

I wrote this in about an hour and a half.



Rated 4.5 / 5 stars

Very good! I love bass pumping! Good job!

johnfn responds:

Thanks! :)


Rated 4.5 / 5 stars

i secretly enjoyed the fight and wanted to do a review but realized didnt want my petty review to be next to skye's and step's review so instead

anyway i disagree with people here this work is danceable (the beat is probably too alien for them). although you might look weird like napoleon dynamite or something hehe but nevertheless danceable

although its not a problem for me but people might say that your melody is repetitive but for me its sounds cool but im not a fan of that glitching cymbals.

dont have much to say anymore so with that over all good mixing and idk for me its really danceable

johnfn responds:

Heheh well thanks for sneaking and reviewing a piece that they'll probably miss ;-P

I actually had some trouble with the glitching too, like the glitching vst I was using was really unreliable because it'd randomly started sounding different. I was hoping that it would sound right in the render, but sometimes it was off. :/

I think it's funny that you could dance to this. Maybe you are an alien =D (That would explain a lot about your music actually...)

If NGADM taught me one thing it was how to mix well. It used to take me SO LONG to mix. Now I can mix down practically while I write the song. It's kind of an amazing thing.


Rated 4.5 / 5 stars

Well, admittedly this isn't anything at all like I had in mind, but it's still really cool. It's a bit too atmospheric for dance music imo, and I wouldn't call that glitchy beat danceable, exactly. Repetitive 4/4 beats usually characterize traditional techno/house. But that's not really important in the grand scheme of things. It's very catchy and trance-ish - in ways it reminds me a lot of "Inside the Machine." I love those eerie harmonies at 1:25, and it does have a certain alien aesthetic to it. The ending was cool, and I like the title a lot too. It's a very interesting and cool piece, and thank you for accepting this challenge. Now I'm willing to return the favor. Is there a challenge you have for me? :D

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johnfn responds:

I actually issue a lot of challenges to other people, so it's always fun when people turn the tables on me :D Though I won't consider your challenge to me fulfilled until I actually submit something in the dance genre ;P 4/4 beats coming up...eventually...

It's quite coincidental that you asked me for a challenge considering that I gave you one in my review! I'd also say you could try writing music faster - aim for a turnaround of a couple of days. I've already told you about that though :)

Thanks for the review!


Rated 4.5 / 5 stars

This is a pretty good tune, not really dance-able but still a good tune.
It has a lot of variation too, since one thing always changes after a couple of seconds.

Nice job man! ^^

johnfn responds:

Yeah LOL one of these days I will write a danceable tune. NOT TODAY THOUGH :D

Thanks for the review!


Rated 4.5 / 5 stars

I was really excited when you accepted TheDoor6's challenge, but this is not what I expected at all.

It's not bad though, I liked it a lot. It sounds similar to your last song, but not as complex or as long.

Do you think you can try making a song with a dominant, catchy, and memorable melody that repeats itself through out the song but with many small variations, with a good bass instrument, and a basic kick then clap drum beat (the kick hits every 4 bars, and the clap meets every second and fourth kick), with some hi hats? Your so good at making melodies, so I imagine you can make an amazing dance song. If you don't want to, that is fine. I know it's probably not your taste.

Here is my review for this song:
The intro isn't very interesting but the bass makes it a lot better when it comes in. I like how the song becomes more complex or changes every 8 bars (I think this is the right word). I really like the atmosphere. It sounds very full and goes very well with that lead. The ending is interesting. It sounds like you used a very fast pitch effect on your lead and then added a lot of delay. I want to copy this idea, lol. I think you should use different leads because they sound the same in a lot of your songs. I really like what you did with the snare with the pitch changes :D

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johnfn responds:

Ooh I see. (I find it somewhat hilarious that I actually had no clue what dance music was until you explained it to me. I must be the only person on the planet who didn't know.)

Yeah, doing something like that has actually been a longterm goal of mine, but the one problem is that so far I've never written a melody that I believe is strong enough to loop the entire song, even with minor variations. Even though it seems pretty easy, it turns out that writing melodies like that is REALLY difficult. (The one in The Fight has been the closest contender so far.)

With the pitch thing I'm not quite sure what you're referring to. There is no pitch modulation in this song! The descending thingies at 2:15 are placed note by note. There are a few pitch bends in the melodies.

> I like how the song becomes more complex or changes every 8 bars

This is the secret to making songs sound not repetitive. Shush, don't tell anyone! ;-)

Good catch on the pitch changes on the snare. Someone showed that trick to me once and now I love doing it.

Thanks for the review :)

P.S. The one thing I want to comment on is that you say I should use a different lead. Honestly? I disagree! In fact, one of my biggest problems with edm is that people are always obsessed with synth design. Honestly, I could care less about synth design so long as it lets me get my melodic ideas across - since for me, melody is always the most important part of the song. So if a synth worked last time, why not use it again? No one complains about using the same piano sound in 2 songs in a row, do they? :P

Sorry, this rant isn't really directed at you. It's just something that has always nagged me. I'm planning on moving into more organic sounds - guitars, pianos, vocals and the like, so hopefully I can free myself to some degree of this problem.