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This song is about the world and all the possibilities that it contains.

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NGADM round 5. I'm kind of shocked by how far I've gotten in NGADM, but I need to write up what I feel about that somewhere else. Written in 3 days, with the bulk of the work done on the final day due to being sick and stuff. It's pretty hard to compete with what steampianist and etherealwinds did in just 3 days, but regardless, I'm happy with this piece and I feel it has taught me a lot.

In my last 4 pieces, half of them were electro and half were more cinematic. I was stumped where to go next until I realized that I could just combine the two. The first half is written as a duet between piano and synth.

Notes

1. First time doing jazz. Or breakcore for that matter.
2. I kinda derped on the mixing because I saved it for the final hour. HUGE MISTAKE.
3. I really do like this song though. I love the melodies.
4. Dat finale... I kinda just wanted to have a zillion beautiful melodies going at once. One thing I'm really proud of is how the main piano and the panned piano don't intersect because their respective melodies play when the other one is resting.
5. Earlier today this song was 8 minutes long. I cut out so much content, including entire sections, for the overall good of the arrangement. It was the right thing to do but it always breaks my heart ;.;
6. I was totally sure this song was going to have no climax, and then I randomly put some dnb drums on top of the chorus...
7. I know there are many flaws in this piece, but I'll just let SkyeWintrest list them all >:D
8. I really wanted to humanize the synth as much as possible, so I played around a lot with the filter cutoff and pitch bend and stuff. I kinda ran out of time to do everything I wanted, but it's a good start I guess.
9. In my last NGADM song Step pointed out that it lacked the intricacy of some of my older works. I felt like this was a really solid point worth consideration - like, was it possible to unify the two and make an intricate but also more classically arranged piece? And that was really my guiding idea for arranging this song.

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Very nice piano

very nice work done here today and for tomarow or the next day I hope you bring us even more fantastic pieces of sound and hope they are just as awsome as this one has been for me, The piano plays so well such quality on your end its a full element of beauty, And I really enjoyed your work here but will love to see what you come up with next anyways great work indeed.

~X~

This is an NGADM Round 5 review.

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What I liked:
-Very chill atmosphere.
-Neat piano work!
-I love the introduction of that synth around 1:20. Very tastefully done playing it off the piano like that!

What could have been better:
-It's been said already, but the drums need some variation.
-Wasn't a huge fan of the synth you chose in the beginning, but that's just personal taste.
-I don't think the breakcore section really worked. It feels out of place to me, and even throughout that the drums in the background stay the same.

Overall this track feels a bit rushed to me, and I think you can definitely do better, but the ideas presented here are quite good.

Score: 8.2/10

- NGADM Round 5 Review -

Another one track recognizable as made by you. :) I like your melodic composition a lot, the bass, and the light, casual atmosphere you've established for the first three minutes. There are a couple of clashing notes in the piano, intentional or not, but they are quickly forgotten. My favorite parts are up til 1:10, and at 2:07.

The change at 2:25 is nicely done, and the buildup to 3:06 is melodically great - which brings me to my next point: the drums. Before that point, they are already a bit loudly mixed, which doesn't help its repetitive beat; afterward, they sound like an obstacle, getting in your way, preventing you from hearing the rest of the composition clearly. What offsets that later on is when you filter them out toward the end, easing their presence, leading them to the track's soft, well-suited outtro.

Score: 8.6

johnfn responds:

> clashing notes

WHAT. THERE ARE NO CLASHING NOTES. >:O

.. Maybe you could point them out to me? :P

> drums lol

Yeah :( I've come to realize this was a mistake. I wonder how much better this song would have been without drums at all? Oh wellllll :P

Thanks for the review AS! I appreciate all the work you've done here.

NGADM Review

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I was looking forward to your round five track, and I was not disappointed.

Your melodic work is always incredible so I usually find myself humming something from your tracks several hours (or days) after I listen to them. The introduction sets the appropriate tone for the rest of the song and I dig the soothing synth jazz coupled with those smooth piano notes that you have sprinkled everywhere - ahhh it's all so good!!!

I really like how you walk the instruments down (particularly the bass) at 2:25, it really helps everything flow into the transition into the latter part of the song. By the way, the 3:00 mark to le fin is just so darn catchy and heartwarming that I couldn't help but smile! I think you really captured the theme well here. I absolutely loved the piano during this portion of the song. I should mentioned that mixing the jazz and breakcore genres was an interesting creative choice that worked surprisingly well! The overall mixing is pretty good.

The mixing, as stated above, is alright but could use some work. I loved the piano work, but applying some more reverb and taking the 'dryness' out of the sound could really bring out the emotion in the instrument. Things also tend to get a bit fuzzy around the 3:00 mark when you bring in the break-beat percussion...things sound cluttered and it becomes a little hard to focus on your cool melody due to this. On the topic of percussion, the drums in the introduction are just a tad too loud. Otherwise, this is just a solid track that I can say that I thoroughly enjoyed.

Well done johnfn! I cannot wait to hear what you create next! I am sure I will be humming this song for a while. :)

Score: 9.25/10

johnfn responds:

Thanks Neon-Bard! I think we're pretty much in agreement on your points. I'm glad you liked it, and let's see if I can find enough time to mix my next submission ;-)

P.S. Nice catch on the falling bass at 2:25. I always enjoy a good chromatic descending baseline. :D

Hi.

The Good:
-Aw man yeah, gotta love that piano and synth combo in the smooth jazz.
-Melodic content is excellent.
-Your instruments are good. I'm curious, what is that lead synth that you use all the time? It reminds me of stuff from Omnisphere, but I haven't found it. ...unless, of course, you made it, in which case it looks like I have some sound design to do because it sounds awesome and the filters on it are excellent.
-Solid mixing for almost the entire thing, just a few complaints I have.

The Not-So-Good: Oh, you want me to list ALL of the flaws, do you? Right, you asked for it. No mercy shall be given, I'm going to nitpick the hell out of this.
-Okay, right away those drums see a bit too strong for something laid-back. Would be nice if there were some kind of introduction aside from instant "thump".
-The background chords get really buried very quickly under the piano and synth combo.
-The drums start getting really repetitive when they've not changed for an entire two and a half minutes. The same 'break' all the time is a bit boring if it can even be called a break. Plz. The bassline also stays the same for a lot of the piece as well, really kinda boring.
-Such mud at 3 minutes in. Right around there things start getting stressed in the mix due to the kick. Also, the piano doesn't seem like the velocity changed much at all - it sounds as if it's being played at the same volume as before.
-Not sure I like the filter on the drums at 3:20, it seems kinda unnecessary.
-Your bass is a lot more unclean at around 2:40, things are pretty muddy between it and the kick and the piano notes all together. Also, the bass in the piano panned to the left is slightly off-putting.
-The final ending is a bit awkward for three reasons. First, the way the drums go out is a bit awkward, it sounds like a loop just ended rather than the drums actually completing. If you had faded out the volume a bit more entirely rather than just lowpassing it this could have worked. Second, the bass is wobbling a lot in there compared to the other places - the only thing I can of as a result from this is mixing error or it was covered up earlier. Finally, it just sits there on something that sounds like it should continue but doesn't.

Overall: Score of 9/10. K, so, you asked for all that feedback and I went full nitpick on you. That said, this is still excellent. The biggest problem in my opinion is the drumline - that needs a LOT of improvement in realism and in overall mixing/transitioning of them.

johnfn responds:

YES IT IS SO SMOOTH URGH

>Your instruments are good. I'm curious, what is that lead synth that you use all the time? It reminds me of stuff from Omnisphere, but I haven't found it.

Yes, it is synthesized! I use a synth called Zebra. It's not all too complicated. I take some simple shape like a saw, toss a vintage filter on it, reverb and delay to taste and it's pretty much done. I was pretty attentive to modulating the filter cutoff practically throughout the track, and I think that a bit of the secret sauce also comes from a really subtle LFO that I apply to the cutoff, which gives it a bit more movement and flavor. For this track I also added a subtle bitcrush on top of it, which I modulated too.

I agree with practically all of the complaints actually, particularly the drums. I knew that was going to be a big problem but I was too busy rushing around to glue the song together, slapping transitions into place, making the mix slightly less bad, etc. Hopefully that won't be a problem next round O_O

I will need to internalize some of them for next time but 50% of writing this song was thinking "skyewintrest is going to kill me for this but I don't have enough time to fix it." I dunno. I don't have any excuses for next time though :P

Thank you as ever for the amazing reviews. You and Step can share the trophy for "best person ever". :3 (along with the other judges <3)

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