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Aug 24, 2011 | 10:58 PM EDT
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16 min 18 sec
4.28 / 5.00

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Rated 4.28 / 5 stars
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Author Comments

Hey everyone, this track is a long one! It's pretty much the audio form of a short indie film. I would recommend downloading this track and listening to it on an mp3 player while walking around, at night if safe, for the beat experience. I completely understand that there will be people who do not wish to listen to a 16 minute ambient song, but rest assured THIS IS NOT REPETETIVE DRONE lol. It is a vivid soundscape, progressing into different tones and themes. Be patient, listen before bed, open your mind a bit, and try something different. ;)

I made this track to represent my thoughts while depressed. I was feeling almost "insane" for a while, driving for hours on end to try and calm my thoughts and place everything together. I would go for walks at night in the woods, watching trees pass by me. I would sit in my dorm and just stare at the ceiling. I couldn't possibly describe what emotions I felt during this depression, but after all of it was over I decided to try and convert it into music. I do this with most of my ambient tracks, and after five months of work I am finally done with this 16 minute opening to my upcoming progressive ambient album, "N".

I spent the majority of the five months it took to write this track piecing together my thoughts into what I thought would best express them. I don't expect everyone to like this track of course, because it is very experimental. I would absolutley, positivley, love to hear feedback on this track. If any imagery comes to mind, then please don't hold them back. By all means, feel free to expand your mind and, when ready, put on your headphones, open up a window, sit down, relax, go for a walk, or do whatever you feel will help you best engulf yourself in this track.

What this track actually "means" or "represents" is all up to you, the listener. It can be a relaxing track to help open up your mind, a track to help recover lost memories, background noise for a game, an interesting listen to break from "normal" music, or just a complete pile of crap because I know not everyone enjoys ambient, heh.

Anyway, I always enjoy expressing myself through this sort of music and hope you enjoy it. I worked pretty hard on it, and am glad to have finally finished it. Enjoy! By the way, for those of you out there who support my music... thank you, thank you, and thank you. Knowing that people enjoy what I make really gives me this great feeling inside. The fact that people understand it is even more incredible. Love you guys <3. I am always up for chatting, so send me a PM and let's talk and stuff.




Rated 4 / 5 stars

Your song, my review.

0:00-3:50ish, neat pads/sound scapes, samples used. I feel as if the clips of (unsure what it is) clicking/scraping could have been cut up and separated panning wise. Parts sounded smooth, others bit rougher, sounded like some granular editing/bit map editing took place. If so, kudos for delving into it. If not, well it sounds like it. I was fond of the hints of bird-eque nature sounds throughout. I found myself thinking a very sharp plucking ound could hit at an ymoment with a long trailing reverb, and fit in perfectly. I wasn' given that plenitude.

3:50 transition feels more like the swap over from one song to another then that of a coherent blend. One section fades out while the other fades in, and it isn't the smoothest of swap up. I think simply entertwiing the patterns more so and twining the fade in/out of the instruments to be a bit slower/individual from one another would make up for it.

One of your synths post 3:50 has a gritty edge to it, it sounds like a square wavey sound. Unsure if I like it, the high pitched arp has a bit of a tinny edge too.

4:30 roughly reminded me of Secede.

5:35 might be my headphones, but low ends are hardly present. The soft change in synth filters and compositional movements are nice. I feel things could sound fuller, but I'm kind of a turd-meister for always trying to buff things up in that reguard. Minimalisms not really a strenght of mine. :P I do feel however the arpping nature and continued playstyle alot of the instruments drone on a fair bit, that something that was more sporatic could give for a pleasant contrast that wasn't chosen by you.

7:05 your arpping main lead has a note that cuts like 1/16th of a note off. Its a bit of a hitch.

7:53 once more the transition from driving arps to sustained note feels a little too unbuilt up to for my liking. The following airy sounds after though work, its a smoother transition from held note to wind, then that of arps to sustained note. I don't know what to suggest other then simply a more layered approach to the transition. Say having a clone of the instrument playing a droned note slowly fade in, while the arps fade out, so it isn't purely a playstyle change, but one of volume/reverb drness or something else as well.

9:30 sounds like PWM / binaural beat modding, or intentional destructive harmonics. Its neat. I feel as if production wise the distorted shifting sound could be much more engaging if it had its higher frequencies reverberating or delayed so to fill up the high end a bit more.

10:40 bit crusher movement is evident, and has some clicking. It sounds like the steps of the automation can be heard, and the clicking sounds like the plugin doesn't support the automation. It sounds good admittedly, but it similarly to me sounds like some mistakes

11mins ish, I like the eerie ambiance an awful lot.

11:45 drop off is really nice a change from the elevating sound. I felt pacing wise there could be a bit of a gap after that of near silence before the introduction of the next section. This transition while I don't fully agree with the pacing/timing (given the last sentance), does maneuver much more smoothly.

13:40 there is a detuned sounding siren. Very nice. Alot of the sounds used throughout are very muffled, reverbated, obcured in some way. Long sustained, long to drone out. I really wish there were more sharp sounds that were in a psycho acoustical foreground, it would make the peice far more captivating I think.

15:38 vocal synthy blip is almost one of those sharper sounds I was hoping for.

Song ending as an individual piece is kind of weak, but given its ambient, they tend to be dependent on what follows after.


Work on transitions more. I know working on a long peice can often become cumbersome given the sheer girth, and to listen to and evaulate your own work becomes awfully difficult, but it is absolutely necessary. Not all transitions in this song were equally strong as they could have been, and I think for fulfilling a strong ambient peice, there needs to be a high level of attention focused on cohesion.

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FatKidWitAJetPak responds:

wow. That's the longest review I have ever seen, thanks a whole lot! Anyway, I'll try and cover everything you said in a short summary...

Basically, I see you looked into this track on an extreme technical level. The thing is, I purposely put in seemingly mistakingly created sounds on purpose. I personally find it to be as coherent as possible. Since it is a ambient / experimental track, I tried to stray away from normal expected structures and techniques. I also wanted it to sound fairly random at points, representing my bipolar attitude. This song eerily describes BPD, a chemical bipolar disorder I was diagnosed with earlier this year, in musical form. It is also a sort of journey track, telling a story depending on how the listener feels. Not everything is suppose to be perfectly pieced on a technical level. Although, spent the majority of the time mastering this track.

I really appreciate the review, and will certainly look into high pitched pings for distraction elements. I am trying to use only my ideas, however, and will therefore try to simply develop a more memorable and recognizable melody in my next track, although I purposely didn't include very many recognizable melodies in this song to replicate the deep and dark drone feeling of the ambient soundscape I was trying to create.

Thanks again!


Rated 2.5 / 5 stars

Alrighty here i be.

Your intro takes a little to long to come into play in my opinion. I also feel its a little to bassey (just how i feel though) its got a really cool element to it though i must say. Very ambient in the beginning. The song itself does transform and change flow wich is pretty nice making it not really all that repetitive and keeps me listening dispite how long it is. The lenght I Do feel is a huge issue to this song being 15 minutes is ehem...kinda long and most people WILL lose interest. So thats something you may want to work with on this for sure. However the song itself sounds as if it could be several songs compressed into one. Perhaps thats what you should do. Make it aproject on making this several seperate songs. =). Anyway just my opinion. All in all its a good listen just way to long.


FatKidWitAJetPak responds:

Well, if you don't like ambient then this IS NOT the track for you obviously haha. For ambient lovers, however, I feel this can surle be an interesting and engulfing experience. Thanks for your comments. Sorry you didn't enjoy it / have the patience for it :p


Rated 3 / 5 stars

Unique, dark &amp; hypnotic, but waay too long.

Hmmm, this 1 is very hard to describe for me, which is surprizing given what a great artist u are. I think the main problem with this 1 was that it was just waaay too long. Some parts seem to drag on, so if u condensed it it would be awesome. I'd make the whole thing shorter, max of 10 mins, there are definitely some parts that go on too long & can be shortened.
Otherwise this is really effective ambient music. It actually gives of a slightly disturbed, unsettling, uneasy affect at some times but is hypnotic at other times. This is a very strange 1 but I really like this because of how unique & interesting it is in my opinion. Main feedback is to cut it shorter overall.
& THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE friendly PM's & I'm very glad that you appreciate my feedback to your songs. I love listening to music like yours, & i'm a VERY picky & VERY specific kind of music liker. I'm not HUGELY into music or ambience music yet I REALLY like your stuff.
CANT WAIT for your album to be done! :D

FatKidWitAJetPak responds:

The length can be annoying for many, since it is hard to concentrate for such a long time on such a wide array of emotions, however I do not feel like decreasing the length of this at all because I planned it out based on how I felt. It is long because it takes that much time to represent the feelings I wanted to represent.

Also, it is the opening for a 10 song song album without pauses. The whole album is basically a one hour and twenty minute song, so the length wont be noticeable once put inside the album as a whole.

Thanks for the feedback man.


Rated 5 / 5 stars

This is deep

a song that speaks of discomfort

whispers loneliness

and lingering traces of knowing that something isn't quite right but unable to pinpoint whats off

In short the summation of the song is obviously stronger than any of its component parts and in truth is a bit unsettling to anyone who hasn't tasted depression and while it does bring to mind some of the darkest times for me I find that around 4:00 Min mark the elusive hope that maybe it would will get better and then it goes back to the more disquieting aspects

other than that you did good kudos

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FatKidWitAJetPak responds:

I find that dark music eases my mind at times, because our brains crave certain psychological tortures for some odd reason. Try treating it as a "strange journey" rather than a "depressing" one. Sorry you found it a bit unsettling, but I simply was composing from what I felt.


Rated 5 / 5 stars

Pretty Nice

Cool ambient : P

FatKidWitAJetPak responds:

lol thanks :P