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When Gods Do Battle (full)

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One day I looked down and read an interesting review from TamaDrum on my loop When Gods Do Battle. Here is what it said: "If only this was a full length song... But other than that heres a tag word: AWESOME, but you already have it." I got to thinking, and after appreciating the tag word, I decided to make a full version of When Gods Do Battle. Kudos to TamaDrum for the idea. So, here it is. Listen to it all the way through: it gets truly awesome once the guitar, bass, and drums come in.

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damn.

The part from 2:06 and onward is amazing. I love that part.
This final version you mention in responses to other people. Where is it?

masterjiji responds:

Elsewhere in the depths of my audio submissions: http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/liste n/170885

cool

sounds like a classic duel between powerful enemies though, yup

nice but..

i see where you're going at with this song but it just needs more of a.. "spice" if you know what i mean( like a bigger suspention), but awesome song

masterjiji responds:

if you want more, see te final version.

Needs a bit of touches

I gotta say, i really liked the overall shape of the song, i truly did enjoy how u contrasted the different phrases and the ending phrases blew me away. i tried doing the same thing with my recent song (i found urs cus i was gonna give it this title actually :) you did an extremely good job of making a peaceful-sounding phrase more kick ass than the previous movement. however, i dont give reviews without some critique, so here it goes.
the harmony u used with the trumpets was really well done, but a hamronious technique u should look into for the intro is a drone: having a harmony play long, dynamically shifting notes on the tonic, thisll really help bring out the trumpets. after the percussion comes in, the lower bass/timps couldve been more articulated, while i read that u use garage band, you couldve made a difference by simply putting in rythem instead of rolls and sixteenth notes. also, the cymbal bell part was more annoying than anything. the bridge was good, i wouldnt change anything about that, but after the repeat, it wouldve probably sounded better to raise the trumpets up a fifth or an octave and bring them a bit out. raise the violins too, they seem to have a really cool part. during the last repeat, some more cymbol swells would have definatly added color to the part, which honestly got a bit repetative. when the lower brass comes in, u used great chordal techniques, but it went from being long tones to fast sixteenth notes, try putting the sixteenth notes in with the long tones as a harmony, which crescendoes as the phrase moves forward. the guitar part was a nice touch. especially since it came onto a peaceful phrase, nice technique with the finale.

masterjiji responds:

ok, so your reviewership has topped that of Krayon. lets get that out of the way.

i dont really know what i was thinking when i put this sone out. i dont want to remove it though because i have gotten so many helpful reviews (3 is a record for me). none of the above changes are included, but a final version of this project has been released, which is very similar but extends the length and variety of the ending.

Wellll

It's alright, but for something as epic as gods battling it falls way way short.
Quality of the instruments leaves a lot to be said, the general theme was alright but it was a bit too repetitive. Too quiet too.
Advice, have you ever heard even ten brass together? In harmony? It's incredible, now put that up to about 300... Use them in the begginning, longer notes with plenty of volume increase, which for the life of me I can't remember the technical term for.
Those trumpets need way more work, clear them out, they sound like they have rags stuffed in them. More articulation. Pup, pupup pup paaaaah, not wip ruprup raaah.
Definitely needs a major overhaul on drums, stronger, louder, more of them. Deeper ones too, some big tampani on the Dom Dom Dom and smaller ones in the background on a fast beat. Then a medium range set for the middle range complexity.
Whatever that electric section was... It was the only part of the song that came closish to epic battle, but it's too different. Knock it out, use the ideas I suggested before.
That quiet bit at 1:44 and after, knock it out. It doesn't belong in an epic battle. All of it, basically, after 1:44 the song becomes irrelevant.
If you want the electric part you need to tone it down and meld it into the whole song, listen to any Nightwish, Kamelot or Within Temptation song for ideas, in fact listen to Gaia Destruction from Nightwish, there's a collab on that here somewhere.
Basically you need to get more instruments in, clear out the ones that are there and use more longer instrumentation. Pull out those notes with a thundering drum track!

masterjiji responds:

i had it that quiet because GarageBand is only so good of a program, and with the guitar section at the end, the overall volume would have spiked to the point of ridiculous distortion.
getting louder is called a crescendo.
in respect to the trumpets, that was the only sound provided by GarageBand, and the sound fx i had to work with (distortion, amp sim, phaser, etc) were NOT going to help.
my idea of the song is this: think of a duel between (sorry to stereotype) Goku and Frieza from dbz. in the first sections with the horns, they pretty much just fight. at the f horn section feature, Frieza nails the hell out of Goku and therefore thinks he has won. at the part with the harp, Goku gets back up with the "you're goin' down, motherf**ker" look on his face, and pulps Frieza during the metal section. this actually works even better with the final version of this song i have posted.

the longest review i have ever gotten. for all the helpful criticism you gave, i was kinda hoping for more than... a 4.

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