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Sep 18, 2013 | 8:51 PM EDT

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NONSENSE! After an unfortunate incident, Socrates Jones must debate a host of philosophers in order to win back his life. More than slightly inspired by the Ace Attorney series.

Authors note: This is for real this time, by the actual creators! The person who was pretending to be us didn't even upload the most recent version. That's just lazy game theft, that is.

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AthielDAthielD

Rated 3.5 / 5 stars September 19, 2013

An interesting way to teach people how to understand logic, rhetoric and formal arguments. Nicely done.



AliceAcidAliceAcid

Rated 3.5 / 5 stars January 18, 2014

Although it was a great game and very, very well thought through philosophically, I often felt I had to figure out how this game would let me make obvious conclusions instead of simply let me draw them. Imo, the short statements you could choose to attack an argument weren't always logically connected to the sentence they had to be applied to but only triggered the counter argument that would eventually build this connection. When I got into the thought-line behind the system of counter-arguing, clarifying etc., it became more obvious but still not completely conclusive for me. I would have wished for a possibility to just state the obvious when presented with an obviously flawed argument instead of, sometimes, pick blindly between clarifying and further explanations until something triggered further hard-scripted dialogue that would finally bring up new points and allow me to proceed...so overall I found the gameplay too indirect since conclusions I already had in mind, could only be found through the development of the fixed dialogue I could only start... I also quite liked Kant actually using "your face is ugly"^^ on a technical side, this game loaded really slow at times, which was especially painful when a third character wanted to chip in only to stretch the real action even more


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KadakoKadako

Rated 3 / 5 stars September 23, 2013

Honestly, this was extremely frustrating for me. I appreciate the effort, but a few parts of the game are very flawed. Euthyphro is attempting to suggest that mankind is flawed, so I pose that perhaps he's flawed in his assumption that his understanding of right and wrong is higher than average because he's studied the gods. He conceded that perhaps his viewpoint could be flawed as well, so the Arbiter jumps in saying that I'm being a dick for pointing that out. Bullshit, Euthyphro made a fallacious statement and I corrected him. If a main part of his argument is that mankind is flawed, then he concedes every subsequent statement he makes and is a piss poor debater. I'm not playing a game where common logic is trumped by your attempt to force the storyline into a linear experience. If you're ever in an actual debate, don't ever make an egomaniacal blanket statement like "mankind is flawed" in an effort to further your point.



ElectricBlueMaxElectricBlueMax

Rated 3 / 5 stars September 22, 2013

Great gameplay, good graphics, and overall a fun game right up until Euthyphro.

And then it gets ruined by the player not having on option to make the relevant counterargument that Euthyphro's argument only applies if it can be proved that there are deities and we know what they agree upon, which it can't.

So, minus two stars for not having an option to point out a clear flaw in an argument.



AtlasAtlas

Rated 3 / 5 stars October 20, 2013

I heard about this awhile ago through the IndieGames twitter account and thought I'll check this out but I never got the chance and now with it on Newgrounds I must check it out! This has a very Phoenix Wright feel going on in my opinion which is a pretty good thing. This starts off really slow and I'm getting the feeling it plays really slow. The music is pretty good but it needs to be more exciting when asking questions like in Phoenix Wright. I'm really tired of the amount of presentations from Billy here. I can't stand to play through this. It is wait to text heavy and slow with boring music. The first 30 minutes is really boring so my review is only based off of the first slow ass 30 minutes.