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BananaBreadMuffin

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Posted at: 11/25/08 03:26 PM

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Even if we didn't always see eye to eye, it certainly won't be the same here without you.

Best of luck.

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Also skimming through the USMC wikipedia article and I spotted this.

Have fun with those babies.

Farewell everyone!

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Posted at: 11/25/08 03:34 PM

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Having only read your posts in the Politics forum:

At 11/25/08 08:02 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: You may consider the verbal squabbles I've engaged in to be only internet chatter, but I've personally seen the same kind of views carry over into physical fights with lingering hatred, that I've actually been involved in.

I honestly can't say that this surprised me. Country vs. country arguments rarely produce remarkable fruits of human humility and self-control but I can't help remembering the ones that you were involved in as the most unpleasant ones to read through. A lot of people lose themselves in those arguments but they usually have a deep breath at some point at think "what I am getting worked up over?" I remember BanditByte saying something, well, derogatory about Europeans as a whole, as if all the people that live in the continent have one less-than-admirable collective mentality and value pattern, and he apologised in another post a short while later. With you it was always sour, and I have to say that you really stood out in this aspect, as in: you were considerably more sour than others. If I had to guess which BBS poster of whom I had once seen a post got involved in a physical fight due to a country vs. country argument then I wouldn't have to think long before guessing it was you.

Listen Britons, Australians, Canadians... (sorry other people) we are so similar, so bound together by common values that it is FREAKING PREPOSTEROUS that we keep fighting against each other all the time.

I remember you posting about Germans in a thread about Obama's speech in Berlin, saying that they don't share the values that Obama pretended they did with Americans, I did not see his speech but I suspect those values mainly encompassed democaracy, human rights and freedom. I'm not sure if you retract this now, in any case, I notice that I think that you let your mood and outlook on other collectives of people depend too much on outward influences. This is just me me trying to gauge your personality based on what I've seen in your posts, but I think that if you had one bitter country vs. country argument with a German, be it on the Internet or in real life, you'd post about how they're a ungrateful, self-complacent country that has nothing good to offer to the world and if you had a positive encounter with one you'd post about how they share so many common values and how they're the most 'American' country in Europe.

And now you've had a very positive experience with a Brit and a Canadian and the shared values seem so obvious to you. No other Canadian or Brit has changed in even the slightest fashion since that experience, just your opinion of them, and I hate to say but I think it's simply because of your interaction with mere individuals.

It's not like I don't have these mood swings when I see someone from a certain country/faith/other group do something that ticks me off, I seriously once noticed that I thought less favourable about Germans after I saw you praise them in one of your posts (then again, I've never had any extended interaction with Germans so that might have explained the severity of the swing). I think that this was what I disliked about you: you evoked that sort of anger and seemed to represent it, I recognised it in my own thoughts and had always thought of it as one of the lesser laudable parts of my personality.

After having said this, I wouldn't do justice to my opinion of you if I didn't mention positive aspects: you are a good poster, you're thorough and you're knowledgeable, and you certainly didn't shy away from controversy or saying things a lot don't agree with with, in itself, I really respect. When you were not angry you were certainly among the best posters on the Politics forum, and in certain fields at times perhaps the best. However, since your topic is supposed to be about making amends for past grievances or whatever, I have to say that the vindictiveness that you displayed in your posts was something that always continued to taint my opinion of you. You didn't come off as simply wanting to prove your point, you seemed like you wanted to shatter what your opponents thought was important, and even if a number of them provoked you, or, without any sense of self-reproach, bad-mouthed you in unrelated threads, you also often instigated bitter arguments or made them turn much more unpalatable than they had to be.

My family has done so well in the US that it's literally considered to be a miracle by my family, an actual divine intervention by God that they got US Visas and came here.

Also, while I'm not religious myself in the sense that I do not believe in a God that interferes in human affairs, I still have to say that I find this a little odd. Why would God deny millions of people in the Congo or Sierra Leone this kind of divine intervention? Not that one could know or comprehend God's divine plan, but I find it rather hard to believe myself.

Still, of course, I sincerely wish you the best in the military and in your life. I hope that your epiphany regarding other anglophones will turn out to be permanent. For as far as I know you, you certainly have the intelligence and determination to make a great officer, and I hope you will be able to keep your negative emotions from influencing your decisions in the future.

Good luck.

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Posted at: 11/25/08 03:52 PM

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Newgrounds without cellardoor? Weird...

I usually disliked your stances when reading through your posts, but I certainly respected your overall posting habits. And I'm impressed by your decision to go into the Marines - it shows a level of selflessness (at least on its surface) that I certainly will never have, so good luck and keep your head down.

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Well, good luck with your life's goal. It's nice when you have that clarity. Anyways, hope you live up to your own aims and find that inner harmony. Hopefully I didn't come off as too much of a wuss with that post.

I'm glad you've realized the futility of these purely ad-hominem arguments.

At 11/25/08 03:34 PM, lapis wrote: A lot of people lose themselves in those arguments but they usually have a deep breath at some point at think "what I am getting worked up over?" I remember BanditByte saying something, well, derogatory about Europeans as a whole, as if all the people that live in the continent have one less-than-admirable collective mentality and value pattern, and he apologised in another post a short while later.

Yeah, I remember that. Circa 2005-2006 I was A real class-A ass. Looking back on my earlier posts and the awful, unfair things I've typed, I can't say I'm proud about them. Now I can gladly say I don't have any innate animosity toward Europeans. I've matured a little and learned the lesson of judging individuals on their own merits instead of lumping them all together.

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Good luck man, my respect for you has doubled knowing you are going into the armed service.

Don't get shot or anything

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At 11/25/08 03:52 PM, Zeistro wrote: Yeah, I remember that.

Haha, cool, I had no idea that this was your new account. Your switch from the GunCrave to the BanditByte/JakeHero account was very noticeable because you had retained most of your posting style, but the "Zeistro" that I "know" has posted a lot less inflammatory (but oftentimes entertaining) remarks than the other accounts so I had not realised that there was a connection.

Kudos.

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well, look at it this way, after your time with the Marine corps is up, if you don't re-enlist, or continue on, you'll be able to get an even more lucrative job. Either way, I see what you're saying, and I sorta agree, I find it amusing how people tend to go after Americans as a whole just because of their leader. I also don't think the current economic crisis is the fault of the American government. Some American buisinesses, definitely, but the government can't be held responsible because some greedy jackass sells a poor person a house knowing they can't afford it. I think I know why we Canadians tend to get self righteous, and it may sound a little bit like an attack on the states, but it REALLY isn't, just read it: American culteral and corporate influences have a huge, HUGE presence in Canada. Mcdonalds, Wal-Mart, etc. Therefore, home grown product, being it music, movies, art, franchises, celebrities are hard to find. They are signifigantly rare. As a result, we like to console ourselves by assuming that Canadian things are better, completely oblivious to the fact that American buisinesses and artists got to where they are by being good at what they do. For example: Canada' answer to Wal-Mart; Zellers, is signifigantly worse than Wal-Mart. When a Wal-Mart opened near a Zellers, the words Truly Canadian were installed on the Zellers' front, and as a result they are still in Buisiness. Whats even worse is when it comes to Celebrities, namely Jim Carrey, Avril Lavigne, and the world's most famous whore: Pamela Anderson. They were all born in Canada, but, as any monkey knows, they live in the US, and are American Citizens. Canadians still insist that they are "Canadian" though, even though they are expats. We also like to think we won WW2, whilst it was America and the USSR (now THATS an odd couple) who did the heavy lifting. WW1, well yeah, that WAS us, at Vimy Ridge, but if memory serves if America had its way at Versailles WW2 would have been averted, thats right kids, the Americans would have prevented WW2 had France not been incredibly spiteful, so give the Amerikaners a break mmkay?

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At 11/25/08 08:02 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: we feel so betrayed..

*boo-hoo*..

..it's the rest of the world that feels betrayed. Your joining the military to "defend" your country just confirms my suspicions. The world doesn't need more fucken American-led wars. Get over yourself already.


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At 11/25/08 02:03 PM, Earfetish wrote: But you're the perfect person for the army and you may as well join. Like you seem to believe US foreign policy is perfect too and America can go no wrong and God's on your side etc which is the right attitude for an army man.

Not to mention super perfect for an officer!!!!

I won't lie, I'm not crying that your going, you've oft times been a pain in my ass here with your "everyone is against me, all the mods hate me, I never do anything wrong" and the fact that you stirred up other pains in my ass in the politics forum. So you leaving? Good-bye, good luck, if you don't ever return to this forum? Red letter days.

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At 11/25/08 02:03 PM, Earfetish wrote: The only thing that pissed me off entirely about you was that you were always like 'America is the best country in the entire world by a million million miles and your country looks like the third world in comparison'. It's nice to see you've changed your tune on this but I don't much like how you've reversed it so foreigners were to blame all the time and you were always just responding to offence or to attacks. You'd spend ages and ages in the same thread claiming that the UK never invented anything and everything important involving the English Language occurred exclusively on your side of the Pacific and involved only Americans. Like it was pretty obnoxious, bordering on the xenophobic quite a few times.

Fuck yeah! He like quote everything you say, pick holes, and runs off on some irritating "raa-raa"-land. Everything has to be quoted and dissected for any possible resentment. Then if you say something like "oh btw, i'm buliding and electric car in my garage" then it's like he goes totally blind, and skips to the next sentence looking for something to dissect into a million hatred feelings..

Fuck, he'll make a perfect toy soldier.


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Adios...

Farewell everyone!

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I'd like to have a pint with you.

Spare me.

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A farewell to one of the most intelligent posters on newgrounds.

Amazing how the internet can generate so much emotion.

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has that cunt gone already?

i'm drunk and we're out of Europe but i still think cellar is okay.

Spare me.

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Cool. Good luck with it.

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That post was irrelevant towards the disregarded rules, you should be no exception.

This account is inactive. If you're reading this then go fuck yourself.

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I've pretty much always wanted to join the Army, because I have no will in life...And I ain't suicidal I think even if i have no purpose I may aswell still make use for myself, So I'm gonna join the Army when i'm older. (Note: Because I don't care if i Live or Not that will make me the guy who goes "OMG, A GUY IS SHOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BATTLEFIELD THAT LOOKS DANGEROUS TO SAVE BUT I'LL SAVE HIM ANYWAY!" Yeah, I'll be one of "those" guys.) Good Luck anyway, and I hope the Army is something you were looking for.

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At 11/25/08 04:04 PM, lapis wrote: Haha, cool, I had no idea that this was your new account. Your switch from the GunCrave to the BanditByte/JakeHero account was very noticeable because you had retained most of your posting style, but the "Zeistro" that I "know" has posted a lot less inflammatory (but oftentimes entertaining) remarks than the other accounts so I had not realised that there was a connection.

Kudos.

Well, it's still a work in progress on my part. I'm trying to be less standoffish than before, but sometimes the bastard in me gets the better of me. Still, it's nice not flaming someone every second post.

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Good luck with that then.

This looks squint.

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Wow didn't see that coming, but you've always been an interesting character. Good luck and don't get killed.

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I always enjoyed reading your well-structured, well-maintained arguments. So long, hope you don't get shot up too badly.

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At 11/25/08 05:48 PM, SCUD14 wrote: I always enjoyed reading your well-structured, well-maintained arguments. So long, hope you don't get shot up too badly.

It's well-maintained to be a one-sided arrogant prick?

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At 11/25/08 05:49 PM, HotActionYiffFur wrote: It's well-maintained to be a one-sided arrogant prick?

If you structure and validate your points well, yeah i suppose.

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Good luck with the marines

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Lots of his arguments were right though.

Like the one about the dog getting thrown.


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I swear I got caught up in a debate with you once and we came to the conclusion that we were both right.

Anyway good luck, and don't get shot a suppose.


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Besides the whole extreme pro American/must win argument attitude you have going on, you're actually a pretty top guy, a very intelligent top guy. You leaving Newgrounds is only a bad thing - Sure there'll be less nation 'fights' which is good, but you yourself are better than that, so it's a loss for us.

Good luck, hope you make a safe return.

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I've always found you amusing. I think you have a good head on your shoulders kiddo, just use it wisely when in battle. We've only chatted a few times and it always consisted of you looking down on my beliefs and forcing yours apon me. I simply asked about what you believed in and you crushed my heart. One wrong doesn't make a right. I liked you before I met you in the NG chat room and I will always be a little fond of you. You're interesting, no doubt about that. I really hope you can keep in contact with the forums as the years pass by because it seems like every time I come here I don't recognize 95 percent of the people as I did 2..3...7 years ago. You stuck as a favorite user of mine. A recognized user. You're unforgettable around here. Don't change a thing, no matter how much of an ass you can be. Because I know you do have a heart. I've seen it.

And by battle, I mean with the other NG users. Not literally gun shoot bang.

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At 11/25/08 05:34 PM, fuckingfourpostlimit wrote: stupid worthless faggot

Saying good bye, is also saying good bye to your ALTs, Cellar...
Take care, hope you are safe in the Marines (I think you should go the the Army... only a few can make it through the Marines, where as the Army most people have a better chance. My friend did the Marines since 1998 and he barely made it out... and this guy is tough and muscles...)

Be seeing you soon. Or your alts... whatever.

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