Compression-Limit er help?

[HaniiPuppy]

Hello ^_^

Still learning about Compression and Limiter, any tips on how to use the Compression Limiter to keep Heavy Rock music at 0db without affecting the sound of the music too much?

I've been trying using a compression limiter on the master track, but that almost always screws up the guitars - even if I add compression/limiting to the individual guitars.

Thanks ^_^

[Neodrummer]

NEVER USE FL LIMITER.

It makes my music sound sucky if i use it.

[Rawmin]

At 11/24/08 08:47 PM, Neodrummer wrote: NEVER USE FL LIMITER.

It makes my music sound sucky if i use it.

Agreed. Upon first launching fl i had the limiter on the master, and it ruined a good many of my songs before learning what it was, and switching templates

[Envy]

Just put a blood overdrive x100 all the way up on the master bus. Makes everything sound great.

[Rawmin]

At 11/24/08 09:48 PM, Envy wrote: Just put a blood overdrive x100 all the way up on the master bus. Makes everything sound great.

Really? Just one? I usually use two or three to achieve that warm, rich, studio sound

[Envy]

At 11/24/08 09:51 PM, Rawmin wrote:

At 11/24/08 09:48 PM, Envy wrote: Just put a blood overdrive x100 all the way up on the master bus. Makes everything sound great.

Really? Just one? I usually use two or three to achieve that warm, rich, studio sound

yeah but sometimes that makes it sound... a little gritty, if you know what i'm saying.

[Envy]

At 11/24/08 10:04 PM, diminitive wrote:

At 11/24/08 09:48 PM, Envy wrote: Just put a blood overdrive x100 all the way up on the master bus. Makes everything sound great.

That didn't work for me :(

Instead it made my ears bleed.

did you make sure to put a fruity fast dist on it?

[RenoakRhythm]

At 11/24/08 10:06 PM, Envy wrote:

At 11/24/08 10:04 PM, diminitive wrote:

At 11/24/08 09:48 PM, Envy wrote: Just put a blood overdrive x100 all the way up on the master bus. Makes everything sound great.

That didn't work for me :(

Instead it made my ears bleed.

did you make sure to put a fruity fast dist on it?

Don't forget to add delay bank and reverb, for that extra warm rich studio quality sound. Oh and um... also add bass booster to make sure u hit your full range to get a good whole sound. make sure its at 100 and at full volume.

It will be awesome.

[Bjra]

At 11/24/08 10:12 PM, RenoakRhythm wrote: Don't forget to add delay bank and reverb, for that extra warm rich studio quality sound. Oh and um... also add bass booster to make sure u hit your full range to get a good whole sound. make sure its at 100 and at full volume.

It will be awesome.

your forgeting. pop a maximus or two on. make sure to put all the bands as high as possible and bump up the postgain

[MaestroRage]

after that go here to learn how to cope with life after!

http://www.hei.org/

you guys are bastards you know that?

[RenoakRhythm]

At 11/24/08 10:27 PM, Bjra wrote:

At 11/24/08 10:12 PM, RenoakRhythm wrote: Don't forget to add delay bank and reverb, for that extra warm rich studio quality sound. Oh and um... also add bass booster to make sure u hit your full range to get a good whole sound. make sure its at 100 and at full volume.

It will be awesome.

your forgeting. pop a maximus or two on. make sure to put all the bands as high as possible and bump up the postgain

lol, how could i forget that step. Good catch... oh and in case you're not satisfied with how it sounds... i just throw on a soundgoodizer and it fixes everything, just use setting A and turn that up all the way... and whatever it is... it now sounds awesome.

[RenoakRhythm]

lol, how could i forget that step. Good catch... oh and in case you're not satisfied with how it sounds... i just throw on a soundgoodizer and it fixes everything, just use setting A and turn that up all the way... and whatever it is... it now sounds awesome.

So i decided to do all the things we said on a channel and you get some pretty intereting results... i think i'll post a little clip in a bit. Lets just say weird static and maybe if i sidechain it, it can be pretty usable... lulz.

[nal1200]

At 11/24/08 11:15 PM, RenoakRhythm wrote:

lol, how could i forget that step. Good catch... oh and in case you're not satisfied with how it sounds... i just throw on a soundgoodizer and it fixes everything, just use setting A and turn that up all the way... and whatever it is... it now sounds awesome.

So i decided to do all the things we said on a channel and you get some pretty intereting results... i think i'll post a little clip in a bit. Lets just say weird static and maybe if i sidechain it, it can be pretty usable... lulz.

Hate to break up the lulz here, but I gotsta be serious.

The purpose of the compressor is to cutoff any peaking sounds by 'limiting' them to a certain decibel threshold. Basically, you're making a track that has varying levels of frequencies, so in order to keep all of the frequencies at a good hearing level without clipping, you compress them and in essence, 'fill them to the rim' of this wonderful cup of musical liquid.

I hope this helped you and made you thirsty.

[nal1200]

At 11/24/08 07:58 PM, HaniiPuppy wrote: Hello ^_^

Still learning about Compression and Limiter, any tips on how to use the Compression Limiter to keep Heavy Rock music at 0db without affecting the sound of the music too much?

I've been trying using a compression limiter on the master track, but that almost always screws up the guitars - even if I add compression/limiting to the individual guitars.

Thanks ^_^

OH, sorry for the DP.

I should mention that if your guitars are getting drowned out by the compressor, that you should probably EQ the individual channels that your guitar(s) is/are on and make sure the upper end of the sound spectrum are enhanced, as guitars need quite a lot of resonance to sound good (IN MY OPINION)

[nal1200]

At 11/25/08 12:21 AM, diminitive wrote:

At 11/24/08 11:49 PM, nal1200 wrote: Basically, you're making a track that has varying levels of frequencies

What does the frequency of a sound have to do with compression? Don't you mean varying levels of loudness?

Frequency and amplitude are both important for compression and equalization. Amplitude tends to be geared towards compression and frequency to equalization. Depending on how your song fits in the sound spectrum, a lot of can be determined in way of how to compress. Here's a wiki cutout specifically talking about frequency in regards to multi-band compression.

Multiband (also spelled multi-band) compressors can act differently on different frequency bands. The advantage of multiband compression over full-bandwidth (full-band, or single-band) compression is that changing signal levels in one frequency band (such as from a sporadic low frequency kick drum) don't cause unneeded audible gain changes or "pumping" in other frequency bands.

Multiband compressors work by first splitting the signal through some number of bandpass filters or crossover filters. The frequency ranges or crossover frequencies may be adjustable. Each split signal then passes through its own compressor and is independently adjustable for threshold, ratio, attack, and release. The signals are then recombined and an additional limiting circuit may be employed to ensure that the combined effects do not create unwanted peak levels.

So in essence, how you want your song to sound (and how loud you want it to be) can be determinates of how you compress and equalize.

[HalcyonicFalconX]

At 11/24/08 10:29 PM, MaestroRage wrote: after that go here to learn how to cope with life after!

http://www.hei.org/

you guys are bastards you know that?

I think that's how Audio peeps like to "initiate" the new people. >_<

Gosh I feel lucky now.

[EchozAurora]

At 11/25/08 01:05 AM, HalcyonicFalconX wrote:

At 11/24/08 10:29 PM, MaestroRage wrote: after that go here to learn how to cope with life after!

http://www.hei.org/

you guys are bastards you know that?

I think that's how Audio peeps like to "initiate" the new people. >_<

Gosh I feel lucky now.

In all honesty though.. if anyone is actually dumb enough to throw a bunch of overdrives on the master channel.. with delay and verb.. and a random soundgoodizer or two (LOL!) and expect a good result... they probably shouldn't be producing in the first place.. =P

It's all in the name of Rule 10 anyways

[HalcyonicFalconX]

But then again, there are those who've never heard of what a compressor/limiter does and are bold enough to test things to the extreme.

Resulting in extreme pain to the ears.

[MaestroRage]

At 11/25/08 01:16 AM, HalcyonicFalconX wrote: But then again, there are those who've never heard of what a compressor/limiter does and are bold enough to test things to the extreme.

Resulting in extreme pain to the ears.

and rule 10.

We 10'ed all over that one eh lads? Also well wrote Nal.

[RenoakRhythm]

At 11/25/08 01:19 AM, MaestroRage wrote:

At 11/25/08 01:16 AM, HalcyonicFalconX wrote: But then again, there are those who've never heard of what a compressor/limiter does and are bold enough to test things to the extreme.

Resulting in extreme pain to the ears.

and rule 10.

We 10'ed all over that one eh lads? Also well wrote Nal.

I second the well write on Nal.

And back to the lulz... i 10-ed all over myself.

[RenoakRhythm]

Just A Test _ Ignore, by RenoakRhythm Type: LoopGenre: Miscellaneous

So i actually did it.... with in sanity of course. Cause i was actually pretty curious. I know we were jokes and stuff but:

The two synths involved have:

2 Blood Overdrives with x100 on.
1 Fast Dist
1 Reverb
Free Filter for some variance
A fruity Limiter cause i'm now deaf

Then the master channel has a Soundgoodizer on it AND a maximus....lulz.

And a pic to prove it. I actually kinda like how my first synth turned out. I may just use this in a song.
Oh and that song is soon to be taken down. Just thought i'd throw that out there.

[HalcyonicFalconX]

Awesome fun. Now watch that song make it to Top 5 Weekly. :P

[HalcyonicFalconX]

Sorry for the double post.
But in reply to why your song is getting good votes.
Even though it was made as a joke test, it sounds better than what some people have submitted. :P

[RenoakRhythm]

At 11/25/08 02:05 AM, HalcyonicFalconX wrote: Awesome fun. Now watch that song make it to Top 5 Weekly. :P

good hell: i'd literally bunch myself in the balls - and yes I know... screen shot or it didn't happen.

I'm already out of zero's for it. See, this is why i need alt accounts.

[HalcyonicFalconX]

At 11/25/08 02:08 AM, RenoakRhythm wrote:

At 11/25/08 02:05 AM, HalcyonicFalconX wrote: Awesome fun. Now watch that song make it to Top 5 Weekly. :P

good hell: i'd literally bunch myself in the balls - and yes I know... screen shot or it didn't happen.

I'm already out of zero's for it. See, this is why i need alt accounts.

I'd actually like to see both.
The song make it to top 5. And the resulting punch. :P
You should let the song stay just to see if it's possible. XD

[RenoakRhythm]

I'd actually like to see both.
The song make it to top 5. And the resulting punch. :P
You should let the song stay just to see if it's possible. XD

Sounds like a dare to me. But i'm not doing any advertising for it.... that means, no PM's, not posting it on Myspace and Facebook. I would really think its impossible for it to get best of the week unless I did those things, cause it needs to have at least 20 votes. Not gunna happen...

I'll take this dare.

[HalcyonicFalconX]

Alright! Dare on! :P

Anyone care to bet on it? XD Just kidding.

[RenoakRhythm]

At 11/25/08 02:30 AM, HalcyonicFalconX wrote: Alright! Dare on! :P

Anyone care to bet on it? XD Just kidding.

You dick, stop voting 5 on it. lol... freaking alt accounts.

[EchozAurora]

I'll whore it out to everyone I know. Just so we all get to laugh at you punching yourself in the balls.

[HalcyonicFalconX]

You know... I didn't do that. Not yet... but maybe I should? :D Thanks for the idea!