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Well, i guess I'll join. I've been vegetarian for about a year. All my friends thought it was wierd, but they got over it.
Bread makes you FAT!?
At 5/18/09 02:01 AM, Sensationalism wrote: It's been like 6 years for me and some of my family still likes to ridicule me for it.
Ah, poor you. Just kick them in the ass, LOL.
I'm a vegetarian for 12 years now, but only found out now about this club here. I'll add recipes when I find some time for it. I have lots of recipes. Tried and tested... Mjum. :D
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At 5/18/09 02:01 AM, Sensationalism wrote:
It's been like 6 years for me and some of my family still likes to ridicule me for it.
My mom doesn't really get it, but supports me nonetheless.
My dad thinks it's dumb. "Don't you think God put animals here for us to eat them?"
I just kind of stared a him.
At 5/23/09 03:31 PM, AngryBanana wrote:
My dad thinks it's dumb. "Don't you think God put animals here for us to eat them?"
My cousin basically said that once, it REALLY pissed me off.
At 5/24/09 08:05 PM, Sensationalism wrote: I've heard that one too. I think we've all heard the same shit and stupid questions, lol. Another one similar to that is the "but cows will suffer if we don't milk them". I always feel the need to explain why they're wrong when people say that to me, hahah.
"Why aren't you pissed off at lions?"
"Food is food."
"We're should eat meat because we have sharp teeth."
At 6/9/09 10:48 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Relevant picture.Hahaha, that looks so wrong and silly!!!
I love it when people argue about the milk issue, it makes them look so foolish!
You always find good stuff, haha.
I've always wanted to work with PETA to make shirt with the slogan "Milk is for babies".
My parents are making me be a lacto-vegetarian instead of a vegan now, it's becoming to hard for them not to put butter and stuff in stuff and stuff.
Too bad, besides, I'm dying on the inside every day i go without having pasta with pesto anyways.
At 6/16/09 04:41 PM, Sensationalism wrote: Wanted to share a video. It's about humans being herbivores. If you like it, feel free to check out their other stuff. They usually have good vids.
That was a beautiful video. I'm convinced that humans are naturally and structurally herbivores, which is good to know I'm eating what I'm naturally supposed to. However, since humans are really complex, it's normal that we break out of our own instinct to make other decisions, especially for what "tastes good".
#1 argument against vegetarianism that i hear all the time: "It's already dead!"
I watched some more of the videos on the LiveVegan channel, and wow, i'm in love. I love how their peaceful, ambient-music-filled videos with beautiful quotes are the complete opposite approach to PETA's terror-filled videos, its so much more effective and inspiring.
I especially love this one.
"Vegan's see life as a phenomenon"
Hey I haven't posted anything for month's so I thought I post something. So much people at my school always ask why I am a vegetarian and always try to argue with me to eat meat (im literally the only vegetarian in my class.) Can anybody help me for making good reasonable things to say after "we eat meat to prevent overpopulation" and other argument things like that.
Also recently I dropped my guard a few times and forgot to ask at restaurant's if meats in their dishes after wards to be greeted with pieces of beef in the soup and things like that, PLEASE FORGIVE ME.
At 6/17/09 12:28 AM, angryglacier wrote: Hey I haven't posted anything for month's so I thought I post something. So much people at my school always ask why I am a vegetarian and always try to argue with me to eat meat (im literally the only vegetarian in my class.) Can anybody help me for making good reasonable things to say after "we eat meat to prevent overpopulation" and other argument things like that.
Well first of all, what are your reasons for your diet? Ethical, environmental, or health reasons? For example, I'm an ethical veggie, so i try to say something calm and simple, like "i object to violence". I try not to argue anymore (i used to a lot). If you want, if someone asks you why your a vegetarian, say something like "i dont really want to talk about it". Generally, my advice is to not make a big deal about it, since its not. Just ignore the bullshit you get, and eventually your friends and classmates will stop bugging you about it. You have your reasons, and that should be enough influence to keep it to yourself, even if others bully you.
At 6/18/09 07:50 PM, Ejit wrote: All half-concievable arguments against vegetarianism rely on the assumption that humans are greatly superior to all other animals. When you ask them why the answer is either "dunno just are" or "because we're more intelligent".
But why should intelligence make us most superior? Why are strength, speed etc not valued equally? I don't understand it. And we certainly don't have the greatest balance of attributes. Besides, intelligence doesn't affect pain reception or emotion.
I really think the thing that makes humans so much different from animals is our ability to speak. With verbal language, we learn much more much faster. Without or vocal chords, i bet we would be barely smarter than monkeys.
At 6/18/09 08:30 PM, Sensationalism wrote:
Ejit's right about intelligence not affecting the ability to feel pain or emotion. Bottom line is that all sentient beings can feel pain and would prefer to live and be free from pain.
Agreed, I think we only have the right to kill parasitic beings, like mosquitoes.
New thought, I'm not interested in raw veganism, but this guy makes some amazing points about humans being herbivores, and the nutrition of raw fruit and veggies. Watch all his videos, I'm now definitely convinced that I should eat more raw food.
At 6/19/09 10:46 PM, Sensationalism wrote: I'd be a fruitarian if I had the gumption, I kind of like the idea of it. I'm just too lazy and I care less than I did before. Vegan's fine for me. This dude sounds interesting, I'm checking his stuff out right now.
Fruitarianism doesn't give you enough nutrients, though.
I've been a vegetarian for a year now. I initially started because I didn't (and still don't) like the whole "killing off animals for our own selfish desires" thing, but now I realize all the health benefits that come with it. Two-for-one.
At 6/20/09 12:17 AM, D3NTATUS wrote:At 6/19/09 10:46 PM, Sensationalism wrote: I'd be a fruitarian if I had the gumption, I kind of like the idea of it. I'm just too lazy and I care less than I did before. Vegan's fine for me. This dude sounds interesting, I'm checking his stuff out right now.Fruitarianism doesn't give you enough nutrients, though.
Yeah, and also it restricts too much food, causing social psychological problems.
At 7/7/09 06:27 PM, Sensationalism wrote: I don't like the way they conduct themselves and how they attack everything just to gain attention. Yeah, that's about it.
This. Also, the euthanize tons of animals every year. And "sea kittens" was stupid. A rose is a rose, and people would eat fish anyways.
At 7/7/09 06:27 PM, Sensationalism wrote:
It may have been stated before, but what do you guys think of peta?
I think they have many problems they can easily change. They have the power, and one of the few things they're doing is just make the world annoyed of them. They need to focus on what's important, like their Animal Birth Control campaign (the best campaign they do IMO) and preventing all the cruelty in factory farms. They need to focus less on shit like "Who The Sexiest Vegetarian Alive?" and bugging Obama because he swatted a fly. They can get more done, because more people will respect them and donate more.
At 7/10/09 05:55 PM, Sensationalism wrote:At 7/7/09 07:10 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:
It doesn't bother me greatly that they euthanise animals because I feel like they do that more out of necessity than anything else. It isn't their fault there are too many unwanted pets and I kind of understand not necessarily being able to hold or take care of x amount of animals for however long. I don't think it's good but I don't think they can be fully to blame. But then I never looked into it much.
True, I bet PETA adopts pets that are about to be put to sleep from shelters, and they end up having to kill them anyways because 1. No one adopts that much, people want brand new, clean puppies, especially because they are puppies or kittens and 2. I suppose PETA feels a lot of sympathy for the animals, and ends up adopting too much. I think it is fair to say that if PETA didnt even adopt all those pets, they would probably die anyway
A family friend adopted a dog that was abused (probably the best thing you can do to a dog's life). They said the dog was terrified about everything at first, but after a while of a lot of love, there's never been a happier dog.
Final thought: One of the only things that pisses me off about NG is not only the constant stream of anti-PETA topics, but the fucking hypocrites that post a link to PetaKillsAnimals.org (or whatever its called) even though, i guarantee, ever single one of those people would be willing to shoot a pig themselves and eat it raw.
I've been a vegetarian since I was 4 and I am 14 now, So I've been a Vegetarian for 10 years. Go Vegetarians!