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The United States: We started as thirteen colonies, but harsh taxation and treatment of Britain led us to form our own country. In Britain, the rich dominated the poor, made all of the decisions, and the poor had no chance of ever digging themselves out of their hole. When we started, all people were supposed to have equal rights.

But that was in the 1700's--What would we see if we compared then to now?

We have become hypocrites; exact copies of what Britain used to be! In fact, in this three hundred or so years, Britain has lived up to OUR dreams. You don't hear anyone insulting them; their economy isn't in a major crisis! They're humans, but they are civilized... their poverty and obesity rates aren't nearly as high. Their education is better. In Britain, and all throughout other countries--Such as Canada, and most of Europe and Asia. Even countries in the Middle East are beginning to become what our dream was. And eventually, all of these places will pass us; we'll be the new country that everyone else has a grudge against.

Think about it--What kind of people can run for president? Only the upper class--To run for president, you need money, and high political status. But all that does is cloud their vision--Turns them into greedy and self-absorbed monsters. Just think about how great we would be if a middle class man or woman had the power to run for president! Our country would be fantastic! The lower class would disappear, and the upper class would mesh in with the Middle class. Everyone would be relatively equal. Of course, there would be people with extreme amounts of money and those with just enough for a nice house, tv, computer, etc. but at least we wouldn't have so many people out on the streets, in apartments, in dumpsters, etc. What this country needs is someone who understands both sides!

Our judicial system is corrupt. My parents were both called in for jury duty and they were both declined after testing. You know why? They were overqualified. That's right--They were too smart to be on a jury. In a jury, they purposely choose people who can be swayed by a smooth-talking lawyer. And if you have enough money, you can use your smooth-talking lawyer to bail you out of any situation. Think of all the celebrities that have committed murder and continued their life as if nothing happened. (*cough* OJ Simpson *cough*)

Many people in our society value sports over academics--Brawn over brains. It isn't the football players or baseball players that discover new things and boost technology. They're "nerds" in our society--Unwanted and un cared for. Dim-witted, steroid using sports players make Millions of dollars each week! And there are extremely intelligent mathematicians, historians, scientists, etc. that make maybe 100,000 dollars per year. Don't you see anything wrong with that?

And our education system--oh my god. It's awful! We dumb down our schooling for even the dumbest of students, and the students who don't even try! Pre-Algebra, which shouldn't even be a class, is now taken BY EIGHTH GRADERS. I took that in SIXTH GRADE. My entire school is filled up with slackers and burnouts, and the people who actually try make up about 5% of the population. I make flash animations, get straight A's, do extra credit assignments, and work as hard as I can, but I have red hair. Half of the people in my grade ignore the important stuff and call me stupid names like "redhead" and "ginger" to piss me off. Luckily, I can ignore it and just think "I'm better than them, they'll be mopping my floors when I'm older."

But sadly, it affects other people. Sometimes so badly they give up on the important things. They become like the rest of the people. Stubborn and Ignorant.

And finally, religion. It's such a mess if you think about it. Without religion, we would be so far. Without religion, our technology and science would be SO advanced. We could get so far with our research and save so many lives. But no. Religion causes so-called "ethical" problems with stem cell research and the like. Whenever I hear someone praying or talking about "God" in a serious way, my temples begin to burn and I either burst out laughing or storm out of the room. And it's just so many people who believe in a God, it makes me sick. It's this way, because parents have forced it upon their children. They are ignorant to the truth! There is just so much evidence out their now, how can you NOT be an atheist!

Now it's your turn--rant about the world, or counter my arguments in an attempt to convince me otherwise. But my mind is set--The US is probably done for. I'm guessing in the next 200 years, a group will rebel. The revolutionary war all over again. But that will eventually fail, too. It's an endless cycle. It all leads to one main problem--

HUMANS SUCK.

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At 11/21/08 07:26 PM, Archon68 wrote: HUMANS SUCK.

I love you.

Exactly what's on my mind.


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Yeah, Humans do Suck.

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Lolamerica.

It's like a mini Britain.

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Come to Canada, where we have... about one-third less the population than you. Well, you'll probably steal out our water and then bring it back, only to sell it back to us for your sickening revenue.

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Indeed.

China will become the new world reigning power right after Uncle Sam passes the torch.

Ah well, it's been a fun few hundred years, America. It is time for a new era.

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Fair enough, theres one thing I need to point out though - Britains economy is just as fucked as yours (it's not even all your fault - Northen Rock, look it up) and our obesity rates are the worst in Europe.

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Hey fucker listen to me amercia is the best damn country on the face of the planet and you say other nations are living our dream ? go over there and bash their country and see how fast your ass is naked tied to a fucking wall with no god damn tongue and ass munch everyones economy is fucked up right now and u should god damn leave if you dont like it im proud to live here and i fucking love the freedom we have the upper class is the upper class cause thats how shit is and did u say anything about our miltary in your bashing ? and the muscle over mind thing what da fuck u dont make it with out having a mind u dumb prick and fuck grammer u pissed me off -.- thank you

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At 11/21/08 07:42 PM, elace wrote: Hey fucker listen to me amercia is the best damn country on the face of the planet and you say other nations are living our dream ? go over to live here and i fucking love the freedom we have the upper class is the upper class cause thats

Stupid redneck :P.


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At 11/21/08 07:39 PM, Ben wrote: Fair enough, theres one thing I need to point out though - Britains economy is just as fucked as yours (it's not even all your fault - Northen Rock, look it up) and our obesity rates are the worst in Europe.

Oh my god what's wrong with you?!?!?!

Just kidding... Sorry for missing that...

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Oh, and here's another good point:

We're supposed to have Freedom of Speech and Press, right? Well we don't. In school, my teachers aren't allowed to state their opinions on things like presidents, abortion, stem cell research, global warming, religion, etc. Even us, the students, aren't allowed to say what we want. In workplaces, bosses and employees are rarely allowed to state their opinions. If you state your opinion outside of school or work, the police come and say "it's assault! Arrest them!"

Thank god for the internet, or I'd be strapped to a chair in the basement of the white house.

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At 11/21/08 07:32 PM, doody1 wrote: Lolamerica.

It's like a mini Britain.

even though were like 50 times bigger than you

Also regarding to the OPs point about religion.
ethics would be a factor without religion. athiest actually do have some moral values beleive it or not


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Stupid redneck :P.

and damn proud of it

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At 11/21/08 07:49 PM, All-American-Badass wrote:
At 11/21/08 07:32 PM, doody1 wrote: Lolamerica.

It's like a mini Britain.
even though were like 50 times bigger than you

Also regarding to the OPs point about religion.
ethics would be a factor without religion. athiest actually do have some moral values beleive it or not

I'm not saying "go and do whatever the hell you want" is my opinion on things. I'm just saying it wouldn't come into play AS MUCH without religion...

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At 11/21/08 07:26 PM, Archon68 wrote: There is just so much evidence out their now, how can you NOT be an atheist!

There's no proof that God doesn't exist.
And your points are stupid. I think you've shown that religion isn't what holds out progress back, it's stupid people like yourself.

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At 11/21/08 07:51 PM, elace wrote:
Stupid redneck :P.
and damn proud of it

That's the spirit :D!
Honestly America is the best country right now, even with our fucked economy we still own all other countries in being able to supply for our citizens. Although I do admit it is sick how corrupted we have became over the years, that doesn't make our country terrible, we still have a decent amount of freedom (and by decent I mean gargantuan).


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At 11/21/08 07:49 PM, Archon68 wrote: Oh, and here's another good point:

We're supposed to have Freedom of Speech and Press, right? Well we don't. In school, my teachers aren't allowed to state their opinions on things like presidents, abortion, stem cell research, global warming, religion, etc. Even us, the students, aren't allowed to say what we want. In workplaces, bosses and employees are rarely allowed to state their opinions. If you state your opinion outside of school or work, the police come and say "it's assault! Arrest them!"

Thank god for the internet, or I'd be strapped to a chair in the basement of the white house.

i can understand work.
but my teachers give their opinions on stuff all the time
i personally blame political correctness. its restricting your freedom of speech to avoid being offensive.
also theres still gonna be PETA and Enviormentalist trying to impose ethic reforms, i dont think most of them have any religion.


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At 11/21/08 07:42 PM, elace wrote: Hey fucker listen to me amercia

Damn right, I love Amercia, as they say - Amercia, land of the fre.

is the best damn country on the face of the planet

Each to his own, it's this arrogance which annoys erm... every other nation on the planet. personally I think Canada is a far superiour country.

and you say other nations are living our dream ? go over there and bash their country and see how fast your ass is naked tied to a fucking wall with no god damn tongue

Haha, yeah, that happens all the time over here in Scotland, and I guess all over Europe. We're that backwards.

and ass munch everyones economy is fucked up right now

True, but yours is the largest role in events.

and u should god damn leave if you dont like it

Good thing I don't have too! I might have actually had to exert some effort.

im proud to live here and i fucking love the freedom

Yes, because your freedom kicks all the other countries freedoms asses, take that Europe, and Japan, and Oceana. Our freedom is totally gay and shit compared to yours.

we have the upper class is the upper class cause thats how shit is

Exactly, and it won't change - ah the beauty of the class system, the rich keep getting richer and the poor keep getting ignored. You actualy think that's a good thing?

and did u say anything about our miltary in your bashing ?

Yes because guns make for a good country as we all know. Everyone loves the guy with the biggest guns. Or not as it seems.

and the muscle over mind thing what da fuck u dont make it with out having a mind u dumb prick

Mental Strength (Determination, controlled agression etc.) are different from intellectualism, which is almost looked down on. It should be the other way round. Which do you honestly think contribute more to human society, culture and the world as a whole?

and fuck grammer u pissed me off -.- thank you

Yeah, blame anger, not a lack of care or you know, just idiocy.

Oh, also, torture, guantanamo, illegal wiretapping, cop brutality, illegal wars - I could keep going all day.

Thank god This iss only happening in Amercia though, not real America!

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Haha, yeah, that happens all the time over here in Scotland, and I guess all over Europe. We're that backwards.

u know why scottish people wear kilts ?? cuase a sheep can hear a zipper from a mile away fuck u brave heart

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At 11/21/08 08:03 PM, elace wrote:

Haha, yeah, that happens all the time over here in Scotland, and I guess all over Europe. We're that backwards.
u know why scottish people wear kilts ?? cuase a sheep can hear a zipper from a mile away fuck u brave heart

Wow the sheep shagging thing, plus braveheart - your cultural knowledge astounds me.

I envy you oh great master of trying to change the subject.

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At 11/21/08 08:03 PM, elace wrote:

Haha, yeah, that happens all the time over here in Scotland, and I guess all over Europe. We're that backwards.
u know why scottish people wear kilts ?? cuase a sheep can hear a zipper from a mile away fuck u brave heart

That's wonderful... now crawl back in your little box and don't try to change the subject again...

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any one like froot loops ?

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At 11/21/08 07:26 PM, Archon68 wrote: their economy isn't in a major crisis!

Yes it is.

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At 11/21/08 08:08 PM, elace wrote: any one like froot loops ?

Told.

At 11/21/08 08:10 PM, lazyyMitch wrote:
At 11/21/08 07:26 PM, Archon68 wrote: their economy isn't in a major crisis!
Yes it is.

Not as major...

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At 11/21/08 07:26 PM, Archon68 wrote: The United States: We started as thirteen colonies, but harsh taxation and treatment of Britain led us to form our own country. In Britain, the rich dominated the poor, made all of the decisions, and the poor had no chance of ever digging themselves out of their hole. When we started, all people were supposed to have equal rights....

Oh my fucking god, how did I not know about you sooner?
You sir, are a fucking genius. This is apparently the first fucking time I have EVER seen a man talk about the corruptness in the United States. You summed up everything pretty well. Sorry, I'm not bothering to read the whole thing. Too long for me. But still, do you see the fucking education system? They hire sluts for teachers without any interviews or such, and just give them a curriculum and say they want improvement. The teachers give the students low grades at the beginning and high grades at the end despite all the hard efforts of the students. It's totally fucking corrupt. Thanks for taking the time to point this out. I will see you on your blog.

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At 11/21/08 07:42 PM, elace wrote: Hey fucker listen to me amercia is the best damn country on the face of the planet and you say other nations are living our dream ? go over there and bash their country and see how fast your ass is naked tied to a fucking wall with no god damn tongue and ass munch everyones economy is fucked up right now and u should god damn leave if you dont like it im proud to live here and i fucking love the freedom we have the upper class is the upper class cause thats how shit is and did u say anything about our miltary in your bashing ? and the muscle over mind thing what da fuck u dont make it with out having a mind u dumb prick and fuck grammer u pissed me off -.- thank you

Fuck you, you stupid fucking redneck 5 year old. Your just saying that because you can't understand most of the things that other guy said. Anyway, just because we fucking have a better country than the rest of the word doesn't mean it's perfect, asshole. Now, half the population will go broke because some retards on wall street miscounted. Shut the fuck up- this country was founded for the GREATER GOOD, and not to just sit down and shut up if something goes wrong. This isn't a communist country, for Christ's sake! For fucks sake, you can be proud to live here. Nothing wrong with that. But don't fucking close your eyes when the entire fucking country is in jeopardy. Just because it used to be good doesn't mean it still is. Fuck you, asshole.

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At 11/21/08 07:26 PM, Archon68 wrote: Our judicial system is corrupt. My parents were both called in for jury duty and they were both declined after testing. You know why? They were overqualified. That's right--They were too smart to be on a jury. In a jury, they purposely choose people who can be swayed by a smooth-talking lawyer. And if you have enough money, you can use your smooth-talking lawyer to bail you out of any situation. Think of all the celebrities that have committed murder and continued their life as if nothing happened. (*cough* OJ Simpson *cough*)

Our judicial system is not corrupt.

When you get called in for jury duty you're judged by the defendants lawyer and the prosecutor or plaintiffs offense. Both sides get a say so they can achieve an impartial jury. If that isn't fair to you then present me with a better idea.

Our judicial system is for the benefit of the people. In England (The country you're getting pants happy over), you're are Guilty until proven innocent. In the US you are Innocent until proven guilty. That means in England you have to prove your innocence, to be let go. In the US it is the prosecutors job to prove you're guilty. If they cannot provide solid hard evidence that you were the one who committed the crime, you are off the hook.

Infact in the US, solid hard evidence can be inadmissible in court. Even if it will undeniably prove that you are guilty as charged. This is called the exclusionary rule. If investigators illegally obtain evidence it cannot be presented in court.

People have even been let off of hard time because of silly things like police not reciting the miranda warnings before the suspect was interrogated. The miranda warnings are basically when the police officer must recite the 5th amendment "You have the right to remain silent, you have a right to counsel." In the US, you have the right to not incriminate your defense when you are charged.

Have you even read the 5th or 6th amendment?

You can thank the constitution and the supreme court.

In my opinion we have a very fair judicial system and it pains me to see you complain about it just because of your moron parents.

Obviously your parents were just to stupid to make it to a jury panel and they just didn't want to look like idiots so they spewed bullshit into your face and you sucked it in like a starving pirana. Your parents were not overqualified, shut the fuck up.

The whole point of court is to get swayed by the defense or offense by solid evidence and not reach a verdict according the jury members own personal beliefs or opinions. So if your parents are not easily swayed by the solid evidence, defenses, witnesses, and alibis in court then your parents are just stubborn and let their own opinions get in the way of them being an impartial jury member. Thus, making them underqualified.

Your opinions suck, but you're entitled to them. I rest my case.


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Fuck you, you stupid fucking redneck 5 year old. Your just saying that because you can't understand most of the things that other guy said. Anyway, just because we fucking have a better country than the rest of the word doesn't mean it's perfect, asshole. Now, half the population will go broke because some retards on wall street miscounted. Shut the fuck up- this country was founded for the GREATER GOOD, and not to just sit down and shut up if something goes wrong. This isn't a communist country, for Christ's sake! For fucks sake, you can be proud to live here. Nothing wrong with that. But don't fucking close your eyes when the entire fucking country is in jeopardy. Just because it used to be good doesn't mean it still is. Fuck you, asshole.

did i ever say it was perfect i just said its better then most damn places cuase it is im not saying we have this shit easy or we dont have problems but im tired of this shit about people bashing this great god damn country and it kinda seems were on the same side u starbucks drinkin suit wearin out of touch bitch

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At 11/21/08 07:26 PM, Archon68 wrote: We have become hypocrites; exact copies of what Britain used to be! In fact, in this three hundred or so years, Britain has lived up to OUR dreams. You don't hear anyone insulting them; their economy isn't in a major crisis! They're humans, but they are civilized... their poverty and obesity rates aren't nearly as high. Their education is better. In Britain, and all throughout other countries--Such as Canada, and most of Europe and Asia. Even countries in the Middle East are beginning to become what our dream was. And eventually, all of these places will pass us; we'll be the new country that everyone else has a grudge against.

Look at it in a different light.

Because our education system is terrible, take an opportunity to educate yourself.

This gives an opportunity for the intelligent people, who have a thirst for knowledge, to rise above the idiots all around them. This gives people who want to suceed a great advantage. If everybody was smart we'd have a smaller labor force. America runs off of businesses who hire labor, we have a free market. (Thank our Representative Democracy)

Be glad the people surrounding you are morons, when you are underpaying them.

Go to college, get a good degree under your belt for a job with a lot of demand, and you won't need to worry about being laid off.

Knowledge is power, why give everyone the power of knowledge?


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