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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-20 19:31:42 Reply

Do not divide by zero.

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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-20 19:32:03 Reply

68% of all statistics are made up.


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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-20 19:49:52 Reply

At 11/20/08 06:40 PM, swordsman21 wrote: Here's one for you:

Three men go to a hotel on their way to a business trip. The manager only has one room available. He agrees to rent it to the men for $30. Each of the men pay him $10.

The manager later decides that he overcharged the men, so he gives $5 to a bellhop to return to the men. The bellhop decides that he doesn't want to deal with dividing the $5, so he gives each of the men back $1, and keeps $2 for himself.

Therefor each of the men paid $9 for the room ($27) and the bellhop kept $2. That is $29.

The last dollar has disappeared.

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Solved:

The manager gives the bellhop 5 dollars.
manager: 25 bellhop: 5
The bellhop gives men 1 dollar each.
Men: 3 Bellhop: 2 Manager: 25
3+2+25=30.

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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-20 19:53:20 Reply

At 11/20/08 06:40 PM, swordsman21 wrote: Here's one for you:

Three men go to a hotel on their way to a business trip. The manager only has one room available. He agrees to rent it to the men for $30. Each of the men pay him $10.

The manager later decides that he overcharged the men, so he gives $5 to a bellhop to return to the men. The bellhop decides that he doesn't want to deal with dividing the $5, so he gives each of the men back $1, and keeps $2 for himself.

Therefor each of the men paid $9 for the room ($27) and the bellhop kept $2. That is $29.

The last dollar has disappeared.

Head Explodes

Cant fucking believe I didn't see that. No riddles, only paradoxes. That is a riddle with and answer. A paradox is not a riddle.


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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-20 19:54:46 Reply

without law and order, man can have no freedom

my professor told me that one

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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-20 19:59:43 Reply

At 11/20/08 07:26 PM, All-American-Badass wrote: the below statement is true
the above statement is false

:( u stole mine

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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-20 20:29:54 Reply

Two words:

Schrodinger's cat


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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-20 20:54:52 Reply

I tell only lies.

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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-20 22:05:33 Reply

At 11/20/08 07:53 PM, matbrat33 wrote:
Cant fucking believe I didn't see that. No riddles, only paradoxes. That is a riddle with and answer. A paradox is not a riddle.

It's not a riddle, it's a paradox because there are two correct ways to solve the problem that give different answers, a mathematic impossibility that is true. Thanks for having an open mind about it though, I'd hate to upset the rules of the thread you made on newgrounds that's so important. Just try not to use your tears as lubricant when you masturbate tonight, its just too sad.


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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-20 23:30:02 Reply

At 11/20/08 10:05 PM, swordsman21 wrote:
It's not a riddle, it's a paradox because there are two correct ways to solve the problem that give different answers, a mathematic impossibility that is true. Thanks for having an open mind about it though, I'd hate to upset the rules of the thread you made on newgrounds that's so important. Just try not to use your tears as lubricant when you masturbate tonight, its just too sad.

Actually, it is a riddle. It only seems like a paradox because of a mathematical error that you're making.

After the first step the manager has $30, the bellhop has $0 and all 3 men have -$10 =$0
After the second step the manager has $25, the bellhop has $5 and the men still have -$10 =$0
After the third step the manager has $25, the bellhop has $2 and the men each have -$9 =$0

As you can see, the amount of money in the system has not changed. The reason for the error is that people realize that the total amount of money paid is $27 and then they add the $2 that the bellhop has to that to get $29 which is obviously an impossible and incorrect answer as no money has left or entered the system.

The problem lies in the fact that people do the calculation in the third step as if the manager still has $30 when in actual fact he only has $25 thus for the equation to balance the bellhop and the men should have -$25 between them, which they do, the men have -$27 and the bellhop has $2, but because people try and get the equation to equal $30 they add the $2 the bellhop has instead of subtracting it.


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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-20 23:42:37 Reply

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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-20 23:44:54 Reply

At 11/20/08 07:54 PM, JKMonkey wrote: without law and order, man can have no freedom

my professor told me that one

Heh, that's a good one.. sadly I have none that I can think of :c


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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-20 23:46:38 Reply

At 11/20/08 06:40 PM, swordsman21 wrote: Here's one for you:

Three men go to a hotel on their way to a business trip. The manager only has one room available. He agrees to rent it to the men for $30. Each of the men pay him $10.

The manager later decides that he overcharged the men, so he gives $5 to a bellhop to return to the men. The bellhop decides that he doesn't want to deal with dividing the $5, so he gives each of the men back $1, and keeps $2 for himself.

Therefor each of the men paid $9 for the room ($27) and the bellhop kept $2. That is $29.

The last dollar has disappeared.

Head Explodes

The manager was giving them a $5 refund. That means they would've paid $25 total, but they got $1 each back meaning each paid $9 ($27 in total) and the bellhop kept $2 ($27-$2 = $25)

See it now?

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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-20 23:48:07 Reply

Oh my GOD!

A bulimic that eats her own vomit...


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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-20 23:50:57 Reply

At 11/20/08 04:48 PM, AlmostDead1 wrote: Can we have pictures?

Have something set up like that.

Pour water in.

Voila, you have a basic fountain


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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-21 00:04:13 Reply

At 11/20/08 11:50 PM, RacistBassist wrote:
At 11/20/08 04:48 PM, AlmostDead1 wrote: Can we have pictures?
Have something set up like that.

Pour water in.

Voila, you have a basic fountain

Except that you wouldn't because it would be relying on perpetual motion to sustain itself.


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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-21 00:05:15 Reply

A father that is his own son.
A mother that gave birth to herself.

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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-21 00:05:18 Reply

At 11/21/08 12:04 AM, metalstorm wrote: Except that you wouldn't because it would be relying on perpetual motion to sustain itself.

No.

I'm god, I know these things


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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-21 00:12:50 Reply

Rain comes from condensation from ponds and oceans, and ponds and oceans come from rain.


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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-21 00:15:32 Reply

The existence of evil seems to be incompatible with the existence of an omnipotent and caring God.


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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-21 00:20:24 Reply

At 11/21/08 12:12 AM, squidly wrote: Rain comes from condensation from ponds and oceans, and ponds and oceans come from rain.

And this is a paradox how? Water goes up as condensation and then falls back down as rain. What goes up must come down, It's really not a very hard concept. Also, it is an impossibility for a working system in nature to be a paradox.


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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-21 00:21:52 Reply

At 11/21/08 12:15 AM, modestcasanova wrote: The existence of evil seems to be incompatible with the existence of an omnipotent and caring God.

God cares, he is just leaving us to do our own shit, and if he did interfere, we wouldn't have free will.

Take for example an old pet.

Just because you kill it doesn't mean you don't care


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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-21 00:23:39 Reply

God cares, he is just leaving us to do our own shit, and if he did interfere, we wouldn't have free will.

Can an omnipotent God create a rock too heavy for him to lift?


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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-21 00:25:49 Reply

At 11/21/08 12:23 AM, modestcasanova wrote:
God cares, he is just leaving us to do our own shit, and if he did interfere, we wouldn't have free will.
Can an omnipotent God create a rock too heavy for him to lift?

Yes he can. But if he wanted he could just make himself "strong" enough to lift it if he wanted.


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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-21 00:30:19 Reply

At 11/21/08 12:15 AM, modestcasanova wrote: The existence of evil seems to be incompatible with the existence of an omnipotent and caring God.

God is considered to be good. Without evil, good would have no point of comparison and would thus be neutral therefore if god is good, evil must exist.

Thus the non-existence of evil is not compatible with a caring god.


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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-21 00:30:43 Reply

At 11/21/08 12:25 AM, RacistBassist wrote:
At 11/21/08 12:23 AM, modestcasanova wrote:
God cares, he is just leaving us to do our own shit, and if he did interfere, we wouldn't have free will.
Can an omnipotent God create a rock too heavy for him to lift?
Yes he can. But if he wanted he could just make himself "strong" enough to lift it if he wanted.

If he can change it so that he can lift it, or can lift it at all, then he cannot create a rock that he is incapable of lifting, which contradicts omnipotence. Although if he cannot lift it at all, that also contradicts omnipotence.

The last one on evil was the Epicurean Paradox.


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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-21 00:32:12 Reply

At 11/21/08 12:25 AM, RacistBassist wrote:
At 11/21/08 12:23 AM, modestcasanova wrote:
God cares, he is just leaving us to do our own shit, and if he did interfere, we wouldn't have free will.
Can an omnipotent God create a rock too heavy for him to lift?
Yes he can. But if he wanted he could just make himself "strong" enough to lift it if he wanted.

That means that the rock wouldn´t be heavy enough for him not tot be able to lift it.

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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-21 00:35:52 Reply

At 11/21/08 12:30 AM, modestcasanova wrote: If he can change it so that he can lift it, or can lift it at all, then he cannot create a rock that he is incapable of lifting, which contradicts omnipotence. Although if he cannot lift it at all, that also contradicts omnipotence.

Lets say now I can't bench 250 IBs.

I workout so I can bench 250 IBs.

That doesn't mean I could always bench 250 IBs, and since there was a point I was never able to, that doesn't mean I can never bench 250 IBs


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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-21 00:40:24 Reply

That doesn't mean I could always bench 250 IBs, and since there was a point I was never able to, that doesn't mean I can never bench 250 IBs

I don't think you understand the meaning of the word omnipotent.


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Response to Paradox Thread 2008-11-21 00:43:41 Reply

At 11/21/08 12:40 AM, modestcasanova wrote:
That doesn't mean I could always bench 250 IBs, and since there was a point I was never able to, that doesn't mean I can never bench 250 IBs
I don't think you understand the meaning of the word omnipotent.

I am omnipotent bitch.

And omnipotent means all powerful.

That doesn't necessarily mean you can do everything


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