Forum Topic: A question to all trance makers

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BlurrySound

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Posted at: 11/19/08 06:37 PM

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Hello, I have started to listen to a lot of trance and started to make some. I've gone around online and have seen that many people write their basslines first, but I usually get a melody and then add a bassline, but which is better and more effective? If you don't start with a bassline then what do you start with? A chord progression or just a brief melody and then keep adding on?

sorry for all the questions, but I just want to make sure that I'm going on the right way and can actually write songs.

Inspiration comes at cost, but without it all is lost

Flow with water.--- my new trance song


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Rawmin

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Posted at: 11/19/08 06:44 PM

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There is no right or wrong way. Making music is a very personal thing, so however you go about it, is the right way.

I'm so deep and insightful

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Bjra

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Posted at: 11/19/08 07:24 PM

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you can go to 500 different artists and find completely different methods.

basshunter wacks his dick against the mouse and keyboard

tiesto jacks off into a conch shell, and puts it up to his ear for inspiration

its all about knowing why YOU make music. are you doing it to get attention, make awesome songs, get fans, enjoy the process. whatever it is, focus on this intensely while making your song and your product will reflect your goal.


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scribb1er

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Posted at: 11/19/08 08:00 PM

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there is no 'right' way to make trance, you just do it how you think it is. try experimenting and fooling around for a bit, see what you come up with.


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BlurrySound

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Posted at: 11/19/08 08:10 PM

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Well... how do you guys start your songs? I can get a melody a melody by messing around on the keyboard, but once I put it in Fl Studio, it doesn't sound as great as I thought it would be and I sometimes have to just erase it.

Inspiration comes at cost, but without it all is lost

Flow with water.--- my new trance song


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Neodrummer

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Posted at: 11/19/08 08:34 PM

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At 11/19/08 08:10 PM, BlurrySound wrote: Well... how do you guys start your songs? I can get a melody a melody by messing around on the keyboard, but once I put it in Fl Studio, it doesn't sound as great as I thought it would be and I sometimes have to just erase it.

Certainly, it does take a lot of practise. If you have trouble, try just making short loops of stuff that you got from an inspiration boost and then come back later to see if you can build off of it. I've had that problem before, but it just takes time.

FUCK YOU >:/


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gregaaron89

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Posted at: 11/19/08 08:56 PM

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Whatever's in my head that I want to build upon, usually starts as a bassline plus kick, high hat, other percussion... I just make shit up as I go along lol, don't overthink it.


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Tzunami

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Posted at: 11/19/08 09:07 PM

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Most of the time it depends on how I feel or what I feel like doing at the time. Truthfully sometimes I'll smash my head on my keyboard until I hear a few interesting notes and work from there. They usually never come out how they sounded when I started, but at least I get an idea for a good melody/bassline/etc.


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palidian7

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Posted at: 11/19/08 09:17 PM

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sadly i dont know about mkaing trance but i am a trance fan and i know what is/isnt quality trance. there isnt a right or wrong way to make it. there are tons of different techniques that all acquire the same objective. but if you're worried about whether or not it's true trance then send me a demo or PM me.


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heartless1298

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Posted at: 11/19/08 09:44 PM

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I always start with making the full 16 bar melody first, then make a bassline off of that. That's just what I do.


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Envy

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Posted at: 11/19/08 09:47 PM

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At 11/19/08 07:24 PM, Bjra wrote: you can go to 500 different artists and find completely different methods.

basshunter wacks his dick against the mouse and keyboard

thats so fucking true, Ive seen it.

Envy starts with a bassline and simple melody then complexicizes it.

At 10/28/08 07:33 PM, ParadoxSaint wrote: FUCK YES I'D SUCK MY OWN DICK.

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Posted at: 11/20/08 03:44 AM

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At 11/19/08 06:37 PM, BlurrySound wrote: Hello, I have started to listen to a lot of trance and started to make some. I've gone around online and have seen that many people write their basslines first, but I usually get a melody and then add a bassline, but which is better and more effective? If you don't start with a bassline then what do you start with? A chord progression or just a brief melody and then keep adding on?

sorry for all the questions, but I just want to make sure that I'm going on the right way and can actually write songs.

Personally, I have never had much luck for making a good track when I've had an idea in my head already, but that's just me. My composition method involves laying out some simple drums, get it to sound "quality", if you will, then plod about with a bassline until something just clicks and i feel me head start to nod a little.

This can take days. Sometimes months.

I often sit for an hour playing with something and then I just toss the whole thing. Apple-Q, "Don't Save". But, when I find that magical pattern that I'm starting to get into, I listen over and over, try to picture how to build on it. If you listen hard enough (I know this sounds funny), you can just about *hear* what needs to be added, or more correctly, what you want to add.

The next step is the hardest: the technical know-how to get the result you desire without losing that momentum. This is where many hours of working with your program of choice can't be replaced. Do you need a supersaw that can wow and flutter like a Reese? How about a stuttering Hoover with a stereo filter-delay? Maybe you need to vocode some violin sounds with a bullfrog to get what you need, the point is that the best way to write good electronic music is to not only be inspired but to be able to get the technology out of your way so you can pour your ideas out when they happen, however the happen. That's the biggest hurdle and once you can clear that, you'll be well on your way.

Hope that helps...somehow :-)


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Posted at: 11/20/08 09:33 AM

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At 11/19/08 06:37 PM, BlurrySound wrote: Hello, I have started to listen to a lot of trance and started to make some. I've gone around online and have seen that many people write their basslines first, but I usually get a melody and then add a bassline, but which is better and more effective? If you don't start with a bassline then what do you start with? A chord progression or just a brief melody and then keep adding on?

sorry for all the questions, but I just want to make sure that I'm going on the right way and can actually write songs.

Ways i make songs:

1. Messing around with a beat
2. Messing around with a sound (i get a TON of ideas doing this)
3. Making a bassline
4. Playing piano
5. Just sit back and make some kinda song in my head
6. Be retarded and purposefully make a dumb melody (i fluke out sometimes and get something good)
7. Making a melody
8. Fooling around with automations
9. Steal EnV's songs.
10. Steal more of EnV's songs.

=D!
(im not serious bout the last two)

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loansindi

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Posted at: 11/20/08 09:43 AM

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study music theory.

it won't hurt, and will likely help you to compose if you know what might work (or not work, if that's what you're shooting for)


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Mich

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Posted at: 11/20/08 10:52 AM

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Ways i make songs:

1. Messing around with a beat
2. Messing around with a sound (i get a TON of ideas doing this)
3. Making a bassline
4. Playing piano
5. Just sit back and make some kinda song in my head
6. Be retarded and purposefully make a dumb melody (i fluke out sometimes and get something good)
7. Making a melody
8. Fooling around with automations
9. Steal EnV's songs.
10. Steal more of EnV's songs.

=D!
(im not serious bout the last two)

And you all do those incredibly fast, with good results >.<
I'm so slow...


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