Gay Rights Protestor Attack An Elde

[Tony-DarkGrave]

These are the people that are bitching about equal rights, and they attack an old woman's freedom of speech by knocking her cross out of her hands and stomping it, shout and point in her face, and force her to leave their "peaceful" protest. Yes the clip is from Fox News. I could not find a single other national station that aired this story. Just imagine if that was a pro religion group, and someone knocked a gay pride sign out of a homosexual's hand. It would have made top story on every other "news" network. Open your eyes. Christ how lame beating on a old woman.

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[jrhager84]

Gays are men and women, just like us. They're just as stupid too. Doesn't surprise me in the least.

-Joel

[Tony-DarkGrave]

here is some more of there brutality
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[SadisticMonkey]

All gays are autmaticaly this ignorant and stupid.

[Fierce-Deity]

The thing is, gay rights activists want to get married under the thing that they threw against the ground and stomped on. If they hate the cross so much, why don't they just get legal unities like most religious activists/politicians want? The thing is, the only difference between a legal binding and a marriage is that religion is involved. By what I saw here, these gay rights activists are throwing down and stomping on the exact thing they are fighting to be represented by.

[Tancrisism]

What did that woman expect? The people who voted to take away the gays' rights of marriage were largely funded by extremist Christians. So they are pissed about their rights being taken away and this woman shoves it in their face with this cross. She's lucky mob mentality didn't take it further.

[SadisticMonkey]

At 11/17/08 04:21 AM, Fierce-Deity wrote: The thing is, gay rights activists want to get married under the thing that they threw against the ground and stomped on. If they hate the cross so much, why don't they just get legal unities like most religious activists/politicians want?

Because they're not entitled to the same rights as actual marriage. Duh.

The thing is, the only difference between a legal binding and a marriage is that religion is involved.

I'm afraid your wrong.

[Tony-DarkGrave]

At 11/17/08 04:22 AM, Tancrisism wrote: What did that woman expect? The people who voted to take away the gays' rights of marriage were largely funded by extremist Christians. So they are pissed about their rights being taken away and this woman shoves it in their face with this cross. She's lucky mob mentality didn't take it further.

ha she had the right to counter protest, plus protest are supposed to be "peaceful" something these gays didn't understand plus You don't have the right to not be offended. She can go to their rallies and voice her opinions, doing whatever the fuck she wants as long as she doesn't encroach upon their individual rights (WHICH SHE DIDN'T).

[am-WEE]

At 11/17/08 04:31 AM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote:

At 11/17/08 04:22 AM, Tancrisism wrote: What did that woman expect? The people who voted to take away the gays' rights of marriage were largely funded by extremist Christians. So they are pissed about their rights being taken away and this woman shoves it in their face with this cross. She's lucky mob mentality didn't take it further.

ha she had the right to counter protest, plus protest are supposed to be "peaceful" something these gays didn't understand plus You don't have the right to not be offended. She can go to their rallies and voice her opinions, doing whatever the fuck she wants as long as she doesn't encroach upon their individual rights (WHICH SHE DIDN'T).

So if you were protesting cause you didn't' have equal rights and then someone came up and shoved it in your face (ie, the cross) you wouldn't get angry?
I know I would, it's just like women protesting for womens rights, black people against segregation.
Every one is allowed to speak their opinion but if someone goes into a protest like that, they're asking for it. I don't give a shit if she's old, she has her opinion, they have theirs. I would be screaming in her face to if I didn't have equal rights and she thought that I didn't have a right to. It's a ridiculous.
And for all those people who think 'Homosexuality is a choice, a disease'. Your full of shit.
Bisexual, Homosexual, Heterosexual. Everyone should have the same rights. It's the 21st century for fucks sake.

[Tony-DarkGrave]

At 11/17/08 04:43 AM, am-WEE wrote: So if you were protesting cause you didn't' have equal rights and then someone came up and shoved it in your face (ie, the cross) you wouldn't get angry?

What discrimination are the gay protesters guilty of? I don't see this happening if gay people were allowed to live their lives like everyone else. marriage is non-existant for gays there for there arent any rights being stomped upon by law( now that it passed even though it was instated) also the old woman didn't impede on any ones right by counter protesting.

[am-WEE]

At 11/17/08 05:05 AM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote:

At 11/17/08 04:43 AM, am-WEE wrote: So if you were protesting cause you didn't' have equal rights and then someone came up and shoved it in your face (ie, the cross) you wouldn't get angry?

What discrimination are the gay protesters guilty of? I don't see this happening if gay people were allowed to live their lives like everyone else. marriage is non-existant for gays there for there arent any rights being stomped upon by law( now that it passed even though it was instated) also the old woman didn't impede on any ones right by counter protesting.

I don't understand what your saying? I'm for gay rights and no it wouldn't happen if gay people had equal rights.
No she didn't impede on anyones rights by counter protesting, she has the right to her opinion but they shouldn't complain. She was asking for it. Going into a gay rights protest to pray for their sins or whatever.
Gosh

[Korriken]

I love how they target the old woman and none of the strapping young men that would have probably beat the bastard straight.

[Tony-DarkGrave]

At 11/17/08 05:10 AM, am-WEE wrote: I don't understand what your saying? I'm for gay rights and no it wouldn't happen if gay people had equal rights.
No she didn't impede on anyones rights by counter protesting, she has the right to her opinion but they shouldn't complain. She was asking for it. Going into a gay rights protest to pray for their sins or whatever.
Gosh

they have unions thats good enough if they want to bitch about marriage go to massechusettes, plus there is nothing in the constitution about gay marrigage.

[am-WEE]

At 11/17/08 05:57 AM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote:

At 11/17/08 05:10 AM, am-WEE wrote: I don't understand what your saying? I'm for gay rights and no it wouldn't happen if gay people had equal rights.
No she didn't impede on anyones rights by counter protesting, she has the right to her opinion but they shouldn't complain. She was asking for it. Going into a gay rights protest to pray for their sins or whatever.
Gosh

they have unions thats good enough if they want to bitch about marriage go to massechusettes, plus there is nothing in the constitution about gay marrigage.

Oh well, lets just 'dwell on the past' why don't we. Segregation of blacks and whites used to be allowed, Women didn't used to be able to vote, it's called CHANGE.
It's not 'bitching' it's fighting for freedom and EQUALITY.

Scary...i know

[Idiot-Finder]

At 11/17/08 03:58 AM, Masterzakk wrote:

Really? Sounds justified because the woman is christian and all that horsecripe BTW jesus is full of phail and so is his enemy BEELZEBOB!!

My latest discovery!

[Tony-DarkGrave]

At 11/17/08 07:13 AM, Grammer wrote: Give it like a week to a month and all the Prop 8 hubbub should die down.

Waaaaah, I can't marry my significant other. I care. You can't marry a close relative, since when is marriage a fundamental right?

good point and what about bigamy/polgamy (means you have more than one wife) shouldn't you have the right to marry more than one woman.. wait you cant!

get over yourself.

[Earfetish]

At 11/17/08 04:31 AM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: ha she had the right to counter protest, plus protest are supposed to be "peaceful" something these gays didn't understand

oh yeah cos gays are SO VIOLENT; that's the first time I've heard that stereotype

I don't even see the big deal, you call that 'attacking'? They were just responding to her counter-protest. You wouldn't complain if she was in the Westboro Baptist Church. She went in there to cause trouble and be on the news and if there was one contrary protester at ANY rally I'm sure they'd get treated in a similar way.

You guys should be disgusted that someone is using your cross and your religion to condemn homosexuals.

[Sajberhippien]

At 11/17/08 03:52 AM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: These are the people that are bitching about equal rights, and they attack an old woman's freedom of speech by knocking her cross out of her hands and stomping it, shout and point in her face, and force her to leave their "peaceful" protest. Yes the clip is from Fox News. I could not find a single other national station that aired this story. Just imagine if that was a pro religion group, and someone knocked a gay pride sign out of a homosexual's hand. It would have made top story on every other "news" network. Open your eyes. Christ how lame beating on a old woman.

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While I agree that using physical force against her is wrong, I don't get how you can say that they somehow limit her freedom of expression by pointing at her and shouting. If they weren't allowed to point and shout, wouldn't that be limiting THEIR freedom of expression? I mean, should she be allowed to say "Hey you all! Shut up and stop your protest! I wanna say what I think so ye better shut up!"? I don't think so.

Also, beating her? Did they beat her? Taking her cross may be theft, or perhaps even robbery, but I couldn't see that they beat her.

And last of all, we weren't able to hear what she was saying. While I do think nothing she said could have justified a physical assault, it could beunderstandable for them to take her cross if she for example said they all deserved to burn in hell or something like that.

[Sajberhippien]

At 11/17/08 07:13 AM, Grammer wrote: Give it like a week to a month and all the Prop 8 hubbub should die down.

Waaaaah, I can't marry my significant other. I care. You can't marry a close relative, since when is marriage a fundamental right?

Well, according to the document the US where largely responsible for (one of the best things you guys have made) it is, though it doesn't say anything about same-sex relationships. Article 16, to be precise.

[thedo12]

At 11/17/08 07:56 AM, Sajberhippien wrote:

At 11/17/08 07:13 AM, Grammer wrote:

Well, according to the document the US where largely responsible for (one of the best things you guys have made) it is, though it doesn't say anything about same-sex relationships. Article 16, to be precise.

it was written by a canadian

fuck yeah

anyways, people have no right to say who can and cannot get married based upon what there imaginary freind told them.

[thedo12]

At 11/17/08 08:18 AM, Grammer wrote:

At 11/17/08 08:11 AM, thedo12 wrote: Well, according to the document the US where largely responsible for (one of the best things you guys have made) it is, though it doesn't say anything about same-sex relationships. Article 16, to be precise.

Makes me wonder how we can ban polygamy then, lol

me too,

anyways, people have no right to say who can and cannot get married based upon what there imaginary freind told them.

Imaginary friend? lol what are you talking about?

you know the one you call god,

you think he sends you telepathic messages when you "pray" to him, that one.

[thedo12]

At 11/17/08 08:22 AM, Grammer wrote:

At 11/17/08 08:20 AM, thedo12 wrote:

At 11/17/08 08:18 AM, Grammer wrote:

me too

Because marriage isn't a fundamental right, lol

it should be.

you think he sends you telepathic messages when you "pray" to him, that one.

But he's not imaginary, lol

prove it,

this is gonna be amusing

[thedo12]

At 11/17/08 08:49 AM, Grammer wrote:

At 11/17/08 08:25 AM, thedo12 wrote:

But he's not imaginary, lol

prove it,

How do you prove an opinion? :o

provide evidence that your opinion is valid?

either hes real or he's not,
if your gonna claim something is real then you better provide evidence for it.

other wise people will luagh at you , and you will be sad :(

btw, nice copout
ha ha

[Earfetish]

yeah it's worth saying we don't expect PROOF of God, just evidence, anything requiring a non-natural or supernatural explanation

Grammar what do you say to someone who claims that gays should be allowed to get married in churches that let them and it's state religion to impose Leviticus on a nation

[Zeistro]

At 11/17/08 04:43 AM, am-WEE wrote: So if you were protesting cause you didn't' have equal rights and then someone came up and shoved it in your face (ie, the cross) you wouldn't get angry?

Of course anyone would be angry, however, assaulting someone is not justified.

I know I would, it's just like women protesting for womens rights, black people against segregation.

So physically accosting someone is a form of protest in your book?

Every one is allowed to speak their opinion

I agree

but if someone goes into a protest like that, they're asking for it.

Sort of like how a woman dressing in a sexually provacative way is asking to be surprised seckzed? OH SNAP!

I don't give a shit if she's old, she has her opinion, they have theirs.

So you think they have a right to assault her? No, I'm not trying to make a strawman here, but this thread wasn't about the validity of either argument. This thread was about a group of people assaulting someone.

I would be screaming in her face to if I didn't have equal rights and she thought that I didn't have a right to. It's a ridiculous.

Stupid is as stupid does. That being said, protesting isn't the damned point of this topic. JC, you people....

And for all those people who think 'Homosexuality is a choice, a disease'. Your full of shit.

Well, I'm of the opinion is a birth defect, but then again, we're all fucked up in one way or another.

Bisexual, Homosexual, Heterosexual. Everyone should have the same rights. It's the 21st century for fucks sake.

I'm going to tell you something many might find alarming. Marriage isn't a right; it's a privilege. If the government wanted to it could anull all marriage licenses and make all forms of matrimony illegal. I'd fight fervently against that, but the government can take it away for whatever reason.

People, stay on topic. Whether you're in favor of gay marriage or not isn't the issue. Me, I don't give a rip either way, but someone physically assailing someone, strictly for their opinion, is not right. Making excuses for this activity is detestable.

[Saruman200]

At 11/17/08 03:52 AM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: These are the people that are bitching about equal rights, and they attack an old woman's freedom of speech by knocking her cross out of her hands and stomping it, shout and point in her face, and force her to leave their "peaceful" protest.

Well, she's a dumbfuck. What did she expect, going to a protest tolding a symbol that represents something that caused these people to lose rights. That's like going to a rally against segregation wearing a KKK uniform.

Yes the clip is from Fox News. I could not find a single other national station that aired this story. Just imagine if that was a pro religion group, and someone knocked a gay pride sign out of a homosexual's hand. It would have made top story on every other "news" network.

Would they? Who gives a fuck if someone knocks something out of someone's hand. In high school, people used to knock each other's books out of their hands all the time, you don't see it making national news do you?

Open your eyes. Christ how lame beating on a old woman.

I don't see how knocking something out of someone's hand qualifies as "beating on them". Also, that old lady was doing something stupid, and she got what she deserved. If it had been a young man doing the same thing, I doubt we would have even heard about it. But because it's an old lady that got something knocked out of her hand, it's now a matter of public concern, since old ladies geting yelled at is more potent imagery to portray gay people are evil violent law-breakers.

[jrhager84]

All I see is a LOT of people justifying a WRONG act. She had a right to be there, and they were violent. I'm surprised charges weren't filed. That was assault, battery, possible kidnapping (they moved her more than 5ft).... There's a lot of things (which are documented on VIDEO) that she could pursue. Also, they're not very smart, because if they're trying to prove something, they certainly didn't show themselves deserving. VOTE NO OR I WILL BEAT YOU!!! LOL

-Joel

[LordJaric]

every group has it's assholes.

[Sajberhippien]

At 11/17/08 08:18 AM, Grammer wrote:

At 11/17/08 08:11 AM, thedo12 wrote: Well, according to the document the US where largely responsible for (one of the best things you guys have made) it is, though it doesn't say anything about same-sex relationships. Article 16, to be precise.

Makes me wonder how we can ban polygamy then, lol

Yep, me too actually. I'm not for banning polygamy, as long as all parties consent.

[thedo12]

At 11/17/08 09:41 AM, Grammer wrote:

At 11/17/08 09:07 AM, thedo12 wrote: provide evidence that your opinion is valid?

No, provide evidence for something that can't be proven one way or the other.

lmao,

the fact your holding an apple can be proven, you can easily take a picture .
god, as desrcibed in the christian bible, if he exsited could be easily proven.

your just trying to get out of this, by saying
"thats my opinion leave me alone n stuff"

you claimed that god exsisted, and you claimed it as fact, now prove it.