Flash Weapons.

[benjadaninja]

Here is a preview of some weapons that will be in an upcoming game of mine!

More soon. I am going to need some help coding enemies.

[benjadaninja]

Mac 10.

[benjadaninja]

M16.

[DanBomer]

A note to everyone else: this is not Counter Strike: Source guns traced... Just telling you all.

[benjadaninja]

At 11/9/08 05:59 PM, DanBomer wrote: A note to everyone else: this is not Counter Strike: Source guns traced... Just telling you all.

Nice try, their MODDED Counter Strike: Source guns traced. I made all the animations myself and changed some details on the guns.

Good try, though.

[Alpharius120]

At 11/9/08 06:04 PM, benjadaninja wrote:

At 11/9/08 05:59 PM, DanBomer wrote: A note to everyone else: this is not Counter Strike: Source guns traced... Just telling you all.

Nice try, their MODDED Counter Strike: Source guns traced. I made all the animations myself and changed some details on the guns.

Good try, though.

Wow you took modded counterstrike guns and traced over them, only changing extremely small details? Then you tweened them and called it animation? I am impressed!

/sarcasm/

[jeffamphetamines]

i lold.

[benjadaninja]

At 11/9/08 06:35 PM, Alpharius120 wrote: Wow you took modded counterstrike guns and traced over them, only changing extremely small details? Then you tweened them and called it animation? I am impressed!

Don't be a cunt, it still took me a really long time and it's no worse then people who use sprites.

[Spaltzer]

You're making a video game. Get creative!

[Alpharius120]

At 11/9/08 06:54 PM, benjadaninja wrote:

At 11/9/08 06:35 PM, Alpharius120 wrote: Wow you took modded counterstrike guns and traced over them, only changing extremely small details? Then you tweened them and called it animation? I am impressed!

Don't be a cunt, it still took me a really long time and it's no worse then people who use sprites.

But I'm not talking about sprites, am I? I'm talking about a traced weapon. And some people make custom sprites, making your argument null.

[Foshizz]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAY. Good luck with your game. WAffle

[benjadaninja]

At 11/9/08 07:51 PM, Spaltzer wrote: You're making a video game. Get creative!

Oh, it'll be good.

[Woadraiders]

Who cares if they're traced? They look wicked good, can't wait to see this when it's done.

[atompluspackage]

At 11/10/08 02:01 AM, Woadraiders wrote: Who cares if they're traced? They look wicked good, can't wait to see this when it's done.

I second this motion. The OP did a great job of adding high/low lights and it's all really smooth.

[Greenfrost6]

At 11/10/08 05:18 AM, atompluspackage wrote:

At 11/10/08 02:01 AM, Woadraiders wrote: Who cares if they're traced? They look wicked good, can't wait to see this when it's done.

I second this motion. The OP did a great job of adding high/low lights and it's all really smooth.

Thirded. Hopefully the game turns out well. Newgrounds needs a good FPS :P

[KaynSlamdyke]

At 11/10/08 06:35 AM, Greenfrost6 wrote: Thirded. Hopefully the game turns out well. Newgrounds needs a good FPS :P

Newgrounds has a first person shooter. In full 3d. On the front page at the moment as a matter of fact.
And people are slating it. Because people don't want FPSes to play.

Tracing is a boring, unskilled art. And it doesn't even appear to have been traced that well. To my eyes, it looks like it was run through the trace bitmap function and then red splatter and corrections were layered over it. The fingernails aren't even seperate colours, and the skin tone changes between images (which I doubt is an intended feature). Paradoxically, by trying to aim for realism (and by using a previous example to trace over), you've opened up so many avenues of criticism that the final outcome just falls flat.

For example, the M16 is plain bad. Trace bitmapped muzzle flare, and Lord knows what's going on with that thumb - last I checked, thumbs weren't long or thick enough to cover the entire grip and fire-selectors in a sea of flesh, completely obscuring the former. Blood just doesn't behave like that either... with the entire thing covered in splatter and scratches like that you'd have to assume that there's been impact from every side of the M16 at a close range, which would be ridiculous in all circumstances other than, say, being inside an abatoire when it exploded, and then picked up half a second later to stop any of it pooling.

And please, do correct me here, but I'm guessing there's no actual animation to these other than them animating a muzzle flare, right? No recoil, no slides, no tensing of the muscles? Why not upload the animated swf to spamtheweb for us to critique?

[zuperxtreme]

At 11/10/08 06:52 AM, KaynSlamdyke wrote: ....

You're the only person on Newgrounds whos posts doesn't make my eyes bleed.

Congrats.

Oh, and I agree.

[Bobby444]

Looks good. Your hands are a bit weirded up though.

[CybNexusMkII]

You may find this to be of some use. (contains guns!)

[benjadaninja]

At 11/10/08 06:52 AM, KaynSlamdyke wrote: looks like it was run through the trace bitmap function and then red splatter and corrections were layered over it. The fingernails aren't even seperate colours, and the skin tone changes between images

I didn't trace bitmap to make any of these. I used a laptop touchpad and painstakingly traced every one of these with the smallest paintbrush size. I then later added scratches, blood etc. I will fix up that fingernail bit when I release the game. The wuality of each image is different, the skin tones are all the same on the actual .fla.

For example, the M16 is plain bad. Trace bitmapped muzzle flare....

I drew the muzzle flash, thank you very much,

and Lord knows what's going on with that thumb - last I checked, thumbs weren't long or thick enough to cover the entire grip and fire-selectors in a sea of flesh...

Look at the picture I traced, it looks exactly like what I drew, minus that fact that he had a glove, so I cut off a little beefeness of his hand. Believe it or not, it was even bigger before! Also the hand isn't holding the barrel or anything like that, but rather right next to the magazine. I have seen many people fire m4's and m16's like this.

And please, do correct me here, but I'm guessing there's no actual animation to these other than them animating a muzzle flare, right? No recoil.... no muscle tensions.

Yes there is recoil, reloading animations, and ejecting brass. All the weapons have realistic ROFs, recoil and realistic slides, ports and pumps etc. I am no expert in human anotamy, so I don't know which muscles tense when firing a gun, if you could show me that'd be great! I am also using flash MX 2004, and I don't have photoshop, so my ability to make stunning images is a bit limited. Thank-you for your review, at least your the first person who has actually gave me some constructive criticism, not just, "OMG U TRACED U SUCK."

BTW, here is the AK-47, kudos if you can tell which game it's from without looking it up.

[unbelivable]

At 11/10/08 06:21 PM, benjadaninja wrote:

i like to fail

That mod pretty much owned you. those are terrible. i hope Valve (or whoever made the model) sues you if it even becomes remotely popular.

[zedd56]

@ the ak: Call of Duty?
I've only played COD 3 a few times, never mind the other 3, and the ak just looks like it has the same style.

Everybody, chill out. Sure, it's a trace. I'm surprised it even came out that good on a laptop touchpad... originally i was planning to say they could have been better, but i thought he was using a tablet. Now i know, no matter what he used, it's the product that matters in the end, right? Just saying i'm pretty impressed he had the patience to do this with his laptop.

Here're my crits:
-Well first thing i was gonna say was gun detail, but they're traced, so no cigar :C
-I'm really hoping you animated all moving parts on the guns. Glock's pullback, m4 and ak both have moving watchamajiggers (i play fps games... but i'm not a gun freak, so idfk what they're called) on the sides, etc
-Hand is horrible. Straight up, sorry.
-Gun flare was also horrible. two blotches of different colors, one rotated a bit, and resized. No.
-If you're planning to do this in first person, you better be ready for a year or two's work. Full 3d levels/enemies in 2d animation? This'll be a feat as great as Doom95.
-Kayn's right... newgrounders aren't very fond of fps games... especially not if they're gonna be in flash.
-Actually, Kayn pretty much said everything i was gonna say....

Even though i would like the game, personally i would rather spend my time playing counter strike, just because it's bound to be laggy and lack depth, not to mention that there's nobody expecting you to make this multiplayer. Which is why it will fail. Lots of work for little recognition. You're going down a road that will do nothing but screw you over.

Think about it, before you get too deep into this game.

[atompluspackage]

Newgrounds flash forum.

Stern.

Stern, but fair.

[JT1]

At 11/10/08 06:52 AM, KaynSlamdyke wrote:

At 11/10/08 06:35 AM, Greenfrost6 wrote: Thirded. Hopefully the game turns out well. Newgrounds needs a good FPS :P

Newgrounds has a first person shooter. In full 3d. On the front page at the moment as a matter of fact.
And people are slating it. Because people don't want FPSes to play.

The game on the front page is not popular because it is not that fun. The biggest problem is the targeting system. There was another one a while back that got a better reception.

Alien Slayer 3D, by qigames Type: Game Rating: Ages 13+

People want a good FPS. Hopefully this game will satisfy the demand.

[benjadaninja]

At 11/10/08 07:01 PM, unbelivable wrote:

At 11/10/08 06:21 PM, benjadaninja wrote:

i like to fail LOLOLOLFUNNYGUY.

That mod pretty much owned you. those are terrible. i hope Valve (or whoever made the model) sues you if it even becomes remotely popular.

It's a model of an ak47, just drawing would be as bad as tracing it without permission. The mod didn't own me, he showed me some things I could improve. It was helpful, unlike what you just said.

[Unteries]

At 11/10/08 06:52 AM, KaynSlamdyke wrote:

At 11/10/08 06:35 AM, Greenfrost6 wrote: Thirded. Hopefully the game turns out well. Newgrounds needs a good FPS :P

Newgrounds has a first person shooter. In full 3d. On the front page at the moment as a matter of fact.
And people are slating it. Because people don't want FPSes to play.

No, people dont like it cause they're used to decent graphics, and that was like a bad trip back to N64 times.

[benjadaninja]

At 11/10/08 11:07 PM, Unteries wrote:

At 11/10/08 06:52 AM, KaynSlamdyke wrote:

At 11/10/08 06:35 AM, Greenfrost6 wrote: Thirded. Hopefully the game turns out well. Newgrounds needs a good FPS :P

Newgrounds has a first person shooter. In full 3d. On the front page at the moment as a matter of fact.
And people are slating it. Because people don't want FPSes to play.

No, people dont like it cause they're used to decent graphics, and that was like a bad trip back to N64 times.

Plus it was a THIRD person shooter, not a first person shooter. First person is when you see only the players gun and hand, not full body.

[Chaz]

i like the half life pistol. we'ev all dne that sometime. but these do looknice though

[Chaz]

i like the half life pistol. we'ev all dne that sometime. but these do looknice though

[zedd56]

At 11/10/08 08:14 PM, benjadaninja wrote:

At 11/10/08 07:01 PM, unbelivable wrote:

At 11/10/08 06:21 PM, benjadaninja wrote:

i like to fail LOLOLOLFUNNYGUY.

That mod pretty much owned you. those are terrible. i hope Valve (or whoever made the model) sues you if it even becomes remotely popular.

It's a model of an ak47, just drawing would be as bad as tracing it without permission. The mod didn't own me, he showed me some things I could improve. It was helpful, unlike what you just said.

She.
And yeah, she pretty much shut you down. I think it was more reasons why you shouldn't go any further than things you could improve on.

And when did drawing your own weapons become a bad thing?