Getting back to animation

[LaserKarl]

Haven't done anything in flash in over two years, i decided its time to get back to animation. I gonna try to do a music video to a swedish band called Detektivbyrån featuring the song Lyckans Undulat. This is gonna be my W.I.P-thread.

I just started today, and im gonna let you follow this from start to (hopefully) the final product that will be uploaded in the portal.

Heres the First Update.
Its not much at the moment, but i hope this thread will have me working on it until its finished

Give me crits and ideas please!

[PARAGON-pvp]

YAY ! LaserKarl is back ! Man long time no see, how you been ?

[CaiWengi]

It all looks great what you have so far. Since youve only sketched it its hard to give a whole lot of detail, but what you have done looks great

[LaserKarl]

At 11/4/08 11:47 AM, PARAGON-pvp wrote: YAY ! LaserKarl is back ! Man long time no see, how you been ?

Haha, its nice to be back. I havent been very artistic in ages, and now its all coming back to me. I had forgot how fun it is to animate.

At 11/4/08 11:49 AM, CaiWengi wrote: It all looks great what you have so far. Since youve only sketched it its hard to give a whole lot of detail, but what you have done looks great

Thank you!
Yeah i know its a bit hard to give tips and ideas on such a early stage as this still is in. But im gonna sketch up most of the video before starting to do colors and such.

[PARAGON-pvp]

At 11/4/08 11:53 AM, LaserKarl wrote:

At 11/4/08 11:47 AM, PARAGON-pvp wrote: YAY ! LaserKarl is back ! Man long time no see, how you been ?

Haha, its nice to be back. I havent been very artistic in ages, and now its all coming back to me. I had forgot how fun it is to animate.

Ya I've been the same, tho I doubt you remember me (we talked on MSN a few times about your stuff) but anyways down to buisness - the clip you posted is looking good although I'll agree its hard to go into detail like the previous person had said, one thing is that it shows the person starting to sing but I don't hear any words 0.o maybe I'm just deaf but thats my current 2 cents for you bud.

[LaserKarl]

At 11/4/08 11:55 AM, PARAGON-pvp wrote: Ya I've been the same, tho I doubt you remember me (we talked on MSN a few times about your stuff) but anyways down to buisness - the clip you posted is looking good although I'll agree its hard to go into detail like the previous person had said, one thing is that it shows the person starting to sing but I don't hear any words 0.o maybe I'm just deaf but thats my current 2 cents for you bud.

I kind of remember you, but as said, that was ages ago.

You're not deaf, there are no words sung in this song. And if you think about it, theres no guitarr in it either. Its part of the meaning of the video. You'll see in due time.

[Luis]

you better remember me.

[LaserKarl]

At 11/4/08 01:33 PM, Luis wrote: you better remember me.

I have absolutely no idea who you are, at all

[LaserKarl]

I dont know how often i shall update you on this. But here's another update anyhow. I had seriously forgot how fun animation can be.

[liaaaam]

WELCOME BACK!!!!!

Looks awesome thus far dude ;)

[PARAGON-pvp]

At 11/4/08 02:49 PM, LaserKarl wrote: I dont know how often i shall update you on this. But here's another update anyhow. I had seriously forgot how fun animation can be.

Again I just can't get the feel for the whole fact that it looks like you're sinking the animation with a separate song, I can't make sense of what you're trying to do.

Any possible explanations as to what you're aiming for?

[LaserKarl]

At 11/4/08 02:59 PM, liaaaam wrote: WELCOME BACK!!!!!

Looks awesome thus far dude ;)

Dont tell me you're still here? hahaha. Hi. And thank you!

[LaserKarl]

well. A small update. tried to work on the beggining a bit more, i've started to realise that this is gonna take ages if its gonna be as good as i want it to be. haha.

But its good to have projects running, and i guess it means this thread will be long and filled with joy.

[PARAGON-pvp]

At 11/4/08 07:47 PM, LaserKarl wrote: well. A small update. tried to work on the beggining a bit more, i've started to realise that this is gonna take ages if its gonna be as good as i want it to be. haha.

But its good to have projects running, and i guess it means this thread will be long and filled with joy.

Nice man, commin about this pretty well, but still, can't get my head around it :P
Anyways I'm just playin, is that the style you're going to go with the entire movie? (the first few seconds)

[LaserKarl]

At 11/4/08 07:54 PM, PARAGON-pvp wrote: Nice man, commin about this pretty well, but still, can't get my head around it :P
Anyways I'm just playin, is that the style you're going to go with the entire movie? (the first few seconds)

Thank you.

The first few seconds are just experimental at the moment. Im not gonna keep that style.
Its fucking hard to animate a whole scene involving spotlights. many spotlights. Many MOVING spotlights. And moving people. AND wierd angles. *Sob*

[PARAGON-pvp]

At 11/4/08 08:01 PM, LaserKarl wrote:

At 11/4/08 07:54 PM, PARAGON-pvp wrote: Nice man, commin about this pretty well, but still, can't get my head around it :P
Anyways I'm just playin, is that the style you're going to go with the entire movie? (the first few seconds)

Thank you.

The first few seconds are just experimental at the moment. Im not gonna keep that style.
Its fucking hard to animate a whole scene involving spotlights. many spotlights. Many MOVING spotlights. And moving people. AND wierd angles. *Sob*

I was already talking to you about this on MSN but just to say in case anyone else was having the same problem I was, I finally think I got my head around what LK is trying to show here. Its not that its strictly a concert theme (I got that impression from the first few samples) but in general music/art/dance theme. Again, I'm looking forward to seing more updates !

[liaaaam]

I stopped coming here, then I started again cos I'm at uni and this is a fun place to hang around and spam a bit :D

You're animation style is awesome, I've always loved it.. I still remember the drawing thing of me and denvish, that was sweet.. good luck with this animation, I hope you finish it, it looks funtastic.

Big hugs ;)

[LaserKarl]

At 11/4/08 09:09 PM, liaaaam wrote: I stopped coming here, then I started again cos I'm at uni and this is a fun place to hang around and spam a bit :D

You're animation style is awesome, I've always loved it.. I still remember the drawing thing of me and denvish, that was sweet.. good luck with this animation, I hope you finish it, it looks funtastic.

Big hugs ;)

Haha, i still have those images of you two on my comp. What happned to denvish btw?

I used your upload-thing to show my next update btw. This is a slow prosess. I just cant get the spotlights good enough, and i'm gonna have to work on the lightning overall.

[zedd56]

Spotlights should be a simple yellow/white color with a low alpha, with that oval shape you want.
Lookin' really good so far, i never really saw you around before.

I guess you're before my time, eh :P
Anyway, welcome back :D

[LaserKarl]

At 11/8/08 10:28 AM, zedd56 wrote: Spotlights should be a simple yellow/white color with a low alpha, with that oval shape you want.
Lookin' really good so far, i never really saw you around before.

I guess you're before my time, eh :P
Anyway, welcome back :D

Spotlights in the air i mean, the rays that shows in the smoke on live-gigs. Thanks for the tip though.

In other news, Flash just crashed, taking away one hour of work. Sigh. Redoing stuff is boring.

[LaserKarl]

Update.

Man that guitarist took some time. Im pleased with the results though. Those lightnings are just temporarly btw.

[zedd56]

Oh damn, the guitarist looks awesome :D
I can't wait to see this when it's finished..

And hey, i don't quite fully understand what you mean about the spotlights...

[LaserKarl]

At 11/8/08 12:29 PM, zedd56 wrote: Oh damn, the guitarist looks awesome :D
I can't wait to see this when it's finished..

And hey, i don't quite fully understand what you mean about the spotlights...

Just never mind then, i'll probably solve it on my own.

[PARAGON-pvp]

Lookin sweet man, I see the prob you're having with the spotlights I'm gonna see if I can find any examples for you, I think I know what you're looking for but dono how to explain it.

[LaserKarl]

At 11/8/08 02:37 PM, PARAGON-pvp wrote: Lookin sweet man, I see the prob you're having with the spotlights I'm gonna see if I can find any examples for you, I think I know what you're looking for but dono how to explain it.

Thnak you man, woul be great if you found something.

[SweetSkater]

You used to be my favourite artist, never saw much animation from you though. From what i see it looks pretty good, looking forward to the finished outcome! Also, apologies for the missing links. Stupid host.... :(.

[LaserKarl]

At 11/8/08 05:04 PM, SweetSkater wrote: You used to be my favourite artist, never saw much animation from you though. From what i see it looks pretty good, looking forward to the finished outcome! Also, apologies for the missing links. Stupid host.... :(.

Thank you, glad to hear that.

No worries about the missing links, its peoples opinions based from where i am right now in the project that matters.

Also, a smallupdate.

[LaserKarl]

Bumped for motivational reasons. im sick, and its hard to get started on a rainy, shitty day like this.

Also, im gonna take time and promote the music ive been listening to while working on this. www.shemusic.org. I don't know about you, but i think this is great working-music

[SwanLi]

Looks pretty cool, some enthusiastic movements there also. What's your technique for FBF? You seem to do a rough draft first then go over it in colour?

I do the same in a way, but I go over in shading mostly.

[LaserKarl]

At 11/10/08 08:52 AM, SwanLi wrote: Looks pretty cool, some enthusiastic movements there also. What's your technique for FBF? You seem to do a rough draft first then go over it in colour?

I do the same in a way, but I go over in shading mostly.

Thank you.

I sketch up the scenes just to get an idea of how they'll look when played, then i animate key objects in the scenes first, and add more things around that as i go on. For example, i did the guitarr first in the gutarist bit, doing every fourth frame or so, and then every two frames. After that i added the body, head and left arm on the same layer as the guitarr. Lastly i added the right arm on a new layer, also on every two frames, but not so that it changed in the same frames as the rest of the body. Lastly i added background, some filter if needed and lightning.
I hope this explains my technique somewhat, haha.

I uploaded that scene's .fla if anyone wants to take a look.