Porn/sex and kids

[poxpower]

I don't get any of the arguments for keeping kids away from porn.

Why?
You hear all the time how kids shouldn't see tits on tv or how it would destroy them to stumble on a porn site. But seriously, why? What the fuck are they gonna do?

What's the argument for pushing sex ed to as late as possible? As far as I remember, as a kid, me and my friends were pretty keen on seeing a nude pair of tits. It was in fact AWESOME. That is the opposite of "traumatizing".

And I also don't get the "innocence" argument and how that is tied to sex.

And for that matter, why censor certain web pages and contents for kids? Why can't a 2 year old play Mortal Kombat? What the fuck is he gonna do? Try to uppercut the head of other kids? Kids already beat the shit out of other kids, they don't need video games to get the idea. In fact it's the kids who don't play video games who beat up the ones who play the most games.

EXPLAIN THIS UNIVERSE WE LIVE IN TO ME

[SadisticMonkey]

I'd say the "R" word, but that of course would make an an arrogant, elitist, bigoted asshole.

[BetaOrionis]

At 11/3/08 01:39 AM, poxpower wrote: I don't get any of the arguments for keeping kids away from porn.

Why?
You hear all the time how kids shouldn't see tits on tv or how it would destroy them to stumble on a porn site. But seriously, why? What the fuck are they gonna do?

What's the argument for pushing sex ed to as late as possible? As far as I remember, as a kid, me and my friends were pretty keen on seeing a nude pair of tits. It was in fact AWESOME. That is the opposite of "traumatizing".

And I also don't get the "innocence" argument and how that is tied to sex.

And for that matter, why censor certain web pages and contents for kids? Why can't a 2 year old play Mortal Kombat? What the fuck is he gonna do? Try to uppercut the head of other kids? Kids already beat the shit out of other kids, they don't need video games to get the idea. In fact it's the kids who don't play video games who beat up the ones who play the most games.

EXPLAIN THIS UNIVERSE WE LIVE IN TO ME

If you grow up with porn, it'll lose it's luster. Seriously, how much porn can you watch before it gets dull. I think I may have watched 5 total hours of porn in my life and I'm already sick of it. It was only cool when I wasn't allowed. Let the kids have a good time, being good little rebels.

[TheCrook]

I just know in some alternate dimension, playing with pogs is the taboo. Mothers hurry about spouting stuff about the children's "Pog innocence" and how kids who discover pogs at an early age are more likely to participate in pog related crimes when older. There's some religiously backed political group trying to get kids to abstain from playing, and talking about how you should only play for keeps after marriage.

What

[poxpower]

At 11/3/08 01:45 AM, BetaOrionis wrote:

If you grow up with porn, it'll lose it's luster.

As opposed to.. what? Besides eating and jerking off, I don't know what doesn't get old :o
And even that...

Oh wait, I know! Sleeping.
Ironically, sleeping is the only thing people never get tired of! Funny.

Still I don't see how that's an argument against it. Like, you'll shield them from porn just to make sure they get to enjoy it more later on? That sounds weird. Though it wouldn't be that bad of an argument honestly, especially compared to what's around :p
But then you'd have to admit that porn is sort of a good thing in a way.

[Imperator]

Well there's a plethoraof research on child psychology and social learning out there to show why it's not necessarily the best idea......

Generally speaking, what makes you think kids have the mental capacity to distinguish between reality and the glamor and spectacle of video games, movies, and porn?

Might as well give 8 year olds the right to vote while we're at it.....

[hydra064]

Why don't we all just look at ourselves and be honest unfortantly the "anti-porn" crusade will die down whenever humanity starts mass-murdering religious people.

[poxpower]

At 11/3/08 02:13 AM, Imperator wrote: Well there's a plethoraof research on child psychology and social learning out there to show why it's not necessarily the best idea......

That's one study and I hardly see what the hell it has to do with porn.
Like, what? Kids are going to imitate a plumber with no underpants randomly showing up at a girl's house as she gets out of the shower? HELLO I NEED TO FIX YOUR BATH, LET'S GO CHECK IT OUT.

What are you afraid the kid will imitate exactly?

Generally speaking, what makes you think kids have the mental capacity to distinguish between reality and the glamor and spectacle of video games, movies, and porn?

Why does it matter? What can they do if they think porn is real? Play doctor? Man, anything but that! That would ruin a kid's life to see a girl naked.

[Imperator]

At 11/3/08 02:48 AM, poxpower wrote:
That's one study and I hardly see what the hell it has to do with porn.

I gave the study that spawned the entire thought and research base behind child imitation and learning in psychology, figuring that if you weren't just cruising for a fight you'd then research the rest on your own.....

What are you afraid the kid will imitate exactly?

havingsex. Durrrr......

But if you don't feel 10 year olds having sex duing class and getting charged with felonies for lewd behavior is problematic.....I guess that's a legit position as well.....

Why does it matter?

Because most moronic teens not smart enough to understand the ramifications of sex now live in trailer parks and appear on the Jerry Springer show.

What can they do if they think porn is real? Play doctor? Man, anything but that! That would ruin a kid's life to see a girl naked.

Way to miss the point.

In any case, the jury's out, but it's not looking like your case holds tons of merit here.....

[AapoJoki]

I think it has something to do with not putting unreasonable expectations on the opposite sex or sex itself. Also, I think most parents and educators would rather want children to associate sex with compassion and bonding.

This wouldn't be a problem, if children were educated properly, if they were taught what's the difference between reality and entertainment and fantasy in sex. But of course, adults would rather keep quiet about such embarrassing things, so they choose censorship instead. Good luck with that, though, in the day and age of the internet, particularly seeing as most over 40-year-olds are hopelessly media illiterate.

[BetaOrionis]

At 11/3/08 02:07 AM, poxpower wrote:

At 11/3/08 01:45 AM, BetaOrionis wrote:

If you grow up with porn, it'll lose it's luster.

As opposed to.. what? Besides eating and jerking off, I don't know what doesn't get old :o
And even that...

Oh wait, I know! Sleeping.
Ironically, sleeping is the only thing people never get tired of! Funny.

I tire of sleeping, I mean, I'm here, aren't I?

Still I don't see how that's an argument against it.

It barely passes for an argument, because I agree with you, but I feel like it's nice that I didn't grow up with it. I like how I was raised slowly, I picked things up gradually, and got to appreciate each one. Masturbation, porn, alcohol, drugs, sex, harder porn, harder drugs, harder sex, combinations, in that order. How could you expect me, or anyone, to appreciate simple porn if they get hit with hard drugs combined with drugs? We need gradualism. Masturbation at 14, porn at 15, alcohol at 16, drugs and sex at 17, but not combined until 18, at which point they also get hard porn, harder drugs and sex at 19, and combinations of anything at 20. Then they are primed and ready for all the responsibilities of adulthood by 21. Perfect timing, amiright?

That's how children need to be raised. If the steps are too spread out, then each step gets old before the next is taken up, which would be boring. Too squished together, and the children can't appreciate each step to it's fullest.

Like, you'll shield them from porn just to make sure they get to enjoy it more later on? That sounds weird.

Sounds like intelligent and understanding parenting.

Though it wouldn't be that bad of an argument honestly, especially compared to what's around :p

I have 3 younger siblings, I know how to raise kids, man.

But then you'd have to admit that porn is sort of a good thing in a way.

It is, at 15. Any earlier, and you risk fucking up the child's development. Then they won't learn to appreciate things, and will become spoiled, whining assholes. Manipulate using the parental controls, just drop them at 15. Easy.

[poxpower]

At 11/3/08 03:54 AM, Imperator wrote:

But if you don't feel 10 year olds having sex duing class and getting charged with felonies for lewd behavior is problematic.....I guess that's a legit position as well.....

oh not, anything but "lewd" behavior, i.e. something 100% subjective that uptight cunts try to push on everyone else.
Why is it bad that a kid would have sex again? What does that do?

Because most moronic teens not smart enough to understand the ramifications of sex now live in trailer parks and appear on the Jerry Springer show.

I doubt that has anything to do with porn. I don't even think they can afford paper. Or computers.

At 11/3/08 04:04 AM, AapoJoki wrote: I think it has something to do with not putting unreasonable expectations on the opposite sex or sex itself. Also, I think most parents and educators would rather want children to associate sex with compassion and bonding.

Why does that only work for sex?
It's ok to tell a kid "you're gonna be a doctor and an astronaut!" but it's not ok to say "you should work out so you're hot and thin and bangable like this babe right there"?

I don't know what would be the biggest disappointment; realizing that sex isn't that great, or finding out you're going to spend the next 40 years of your life doing a shitty job in a cubicle or behind a counter because you sucked at math.

[penis-plant]

I say if it isnt my kid then I dont give a fuck about them. I dont have any kids so I dnt care what happens to kids.

[Shaggytheclown17]

How about jus minding one's own effing business?
If a kid's parent's don't want their kids looking at porn then wtf is your problem with that, its their choice, wtf are you gonna do, rally up a bunch of underage boys n show them a bunch of playboys?
Throw ur bitch ass in jail, thats what they'll do, now you'll question the law against that.

So the fuck what? Just because you liked porn the firs time you saw it doesn't mwan everyone will, wtf is your problem.\

Although I get the point about why people are so afraid for their kid to be exposed to it, best way is to explain why porn isn't good n the whole reproductive thing, or just explain that once they have all the info layed upon them then they'll likely be considered more mature, they'll have a hell of alot more pressure on them, and I don't need to list them all.

So you thought it was cool, maybe it was because you had no effing clue what you were seeing, the only reason you enjoyed it was because you knew it was being hidden from you. Obviously you wouldn't be so into it if you knew the whole damn story.

as for innosence, kids are as degenerated as it is seeing as we're born far far premature, bet you don't know about that either, 9 months isn't natural.
Anyway yeah, the thing with sex is that once a person goes through puberty or has a sexual experience, the vital growth areas are turned off meaning brain, bone, organ n other things are left undeveloped, meaning the next generation brought from them will be more and more deformed.
I left out a shit load of othet things but I'll just move along n hoefully you're keeping up.

I mentioned premature birth at 9 months, I think I'll throw that in n close this thing.
You know a monkey can fend for themselves from the about moment theyre born, and the time till theyre born is alot longer than ours.
So heres a question, can a person take care of themselves from the moment of birth? Hell no, so wtf does that tell you.

Aight I'm out/

[zrick]

I'd agree with you so far as a little exposure to pornography while growing up is fine. I remember a couple of friends and I keeping a hidden stash of nude magazines behind a tree in my backyard and getting excited.

However, the problem today is that most Pornography young children and teenagers view is on the Internet, which can be pretty hardcore at the best of times. I'm sure softcore pornography won't have any lasting effects on kids and teenagers but there's some pretty harrowing stuff out there which can be easily seen out there.

[Shaggytheclown17]

Pox is just a little emo, ignorant, put me out of my mysery, don't care if I live or die, fuck my own existance, gf broke up with me so I'm going to punsih mself , if I'm going down I'm taking people with me, little kid isn't he.

[marchohare]

At 11/3/08 07:42 AM, zrick wrote: ...I'm sure softcore pornography won't have any lasting effects on kids and teenagers but there's some pretty harrowing stuff out there which can be easily seen out there.

That's a good point actually. I was thinking the same thing myself. I don't believe it would traumatize a kid to see nudity or even straightforward copulation, but I wouldn't necessarily want them to see three guys with shaved heads cutting the clothes off a screaming, crying woman tied to a chair, then fisting her.

Yes, I'm describing a photo series I've actually seen in the internet. (The final picture was of all the actors wearing fluffy bathrobes, snuggled together on a couch and laughing. Everything before had been play acting, but...)

What kind of porn?

[AapoJoki]

At 11/3/08 07:11 AM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote: once a person goes through puberty or has a sexual experience, the vital growth areas are turned off meaning brain, bone, organ n other things are left undeveloped, meaning the next generation brought from them will be more and more deformed.
I left out a shit load of othet things but I'll just move along n hoefully you're keeping up.

There's no need to keep up with that nonsense. It's clearly another hovindism.

[Shaggytheclown17]

At 11/3/08 09:11 AM, AapoJoki wrote:

There's no need to keep up with that nonsense. It's clearly another hovindism.

Its really pathetic that you have to make such a stupid referance to somone who would likely have you on all fours crying like a baby, as if you know anything. Kent Hovind as much as I've ever heard about him, he was a very well educated person who chose the good side, and now people like you are after his good name as if he betrayed you, so the eff what if he had some dumb tax thingy problem er whatever, I don't care.
Just as you stupid people say, people of one religion are just as bad as another, like you atheists, your religion is in my opinion one of Mankind's greatest follies.

[Proteas]

At 11/3/08 01:39 AM, poxpower wrote: What's the argument for pushing sex ed to as late as possible?

Childhood is precious and fleeting, adulthood sucks and we shouldn't try to force it on kids every chance we get?

Seriously, what legitimate reason is there for an 8 year old to know what the purpose of sex is? You're arguing that it's shit that children shouldn't know what sex is, give us some pro's to debate instead of just calling foul.

That is the opposite of "traumatizing".

Depends on how you were raised. In my house-hold, nudity and any artistic form of it was looked down on, so the first time I saw a pair of naked breasts, I didn't have that "OH SWEET!!!" reaction, instead it immediately set off this moral quandary in my brain as I had been somewhere I shouldn't have been and seen something I wasn't really meant to see.

It sucked being a 7 year old with a conscience.

Kids already beat the shit out of other kids, they don't need video games to get the idea.

But where did they get that idea to begin with? These kids don't exist in a vacuum, they're not going to commit acts of violence unless they have some sort of roll model that tells them such acts are socially acceptable.

And as for Mortal Kombat, that's passe. Kids tend to immitate Grand Theft Auto these days, which is MUCH more realistic and believable than ripping some guy's head, spine, and still beating heart clean out of his body after beating the unholy dog shit out of him.

At 11/3/08 04:22 AM, poxpower wrote: Why is it bad that a kid would have sex again? What does that do?

Create a skewed perception of sex that they might pass on to their children? Make them more unlikely to report molestation by an adult since they view it as "no big deal" to begin with?

It's ok to tell a kid "you're gonna be a doctor and an astronaut!" but it's not ok to say "you should work out so you're hot and thin and bangable like this babe right there"?

Telling a kid that they might be a doctor or an astronaut encourages creativity, and gives them something to aspire to even if they don't actually achieve it. It puts the idea in their head that they can become better than what they are, or whatever they want to be.

I don't know what would be the biggest disappointment; realizing that sex isn't that great, or finding out you're going to spend the next 40 years of your life doing a shitty job in a cubicle or behind a counter because you sucked at math.

So why would you want either of those things foisted on a kid then?

[poxpower]

At 11/3/08 10:42 AM, Proteas wrote:

Childhood is precious and fleeting, adulthood sucks and we shouldn't try to force it on kids every chance we get?

What part of having a penis makes you an adult again? Kids love to hear about sex anyway, you have no right to say "sorry this is for adults only because I'm a prude and so was my father AND SO SHALL YOU mwahahaha!".
And honestly I have to say adulthood is pretty kickass. The only reason people want to be kids again is mostly:

1- they somehow imagine that if they had it back, they'd have memories of being an adult and remembering how some things suck
2- they'll get 20+ years added on their life.

Being a kid had ups and downs, but you were a prisoner of your parents and the school. You had to do something you didn't want to do 5 days a week then you have homework. I'm not saying it's a bad system, but it still makes kids prisoners with no money and nothing.

Adulthood is great. You live alone, you do whatever you want on weekends. You can travel, you can anything you can afford at the store. You can eat pizza for a month. It rules.

Seriously, what legitimate reason is there for an 8 year old to know what the purpose of sex is?

See you always do this "prove a negative" line of thinking.
How about I ask you: what legitimate reason is there for an 8 year old to NOT know what the purpose of sex is?

Then I'll just say that your reason is "not legitimate" since it's a matter of opinion! Yay!

Kids are curious, they want to know and you've no right to keep the information away from them especially if it clearly doesn't pose a danger.

Depends on how you were raised.

I'm sorry your parents had a victorian mindset.

But where did they get that idea to begin with?

Instinct. We're animals, we're aggressive. Kids fight when they're angry.

Create a skewed perception of sex that they might pass on to their children?

I think your perception of sex is skewed. Now try to prove it's not!

Telling a kid that they might be a doctor or an astronaut encourages creativity, and gives them something to aspire to even if they don't actually achieve it. It puts the idea in their head that they can become better than what they are, or whatever they want to be.

As opposed to telling them they should strive to be well-groomed, athletic and hot so they can bang Pamela Anderson?

So why would you want either of those things foisted on a kid then?

We apparently that's a question for yourself since you advocate only one of them but not the other.
I advocate both. I think people need to think they have to be better than they can be in reality, then when they're old enough, they need to realize that not all their dreams will come true but that there is still always hope if they make the effort.

None of this "be content with what you have" shit, that's peasant-age mentality. That's how poor, shitty people think. People who aren't content are movers and shakers. They build the world while other people have a thumb up their ass.

[Shaggytheclown17]

At 11/3/08 10:42 AM, Proteas wrote:

At 11/3/08 01:39 AM, poxpower wrote:

At 11/3/08 04:22 AM, poxpower wrote: Why is it bad that a kid would have sex again? What does that do?

Create a skewed perception of sex that they might pass on to their children? Make them more unlikely to report molestation by an adult since they view it as "no big deal" to begin with?

OMG Proteas, thanks for brining that back up, I can't believe I missed that part.
Pox, you are a sick twisted FREAK!
All the things I said about brain development pretains to that, once a person has sex, or is forced into puberty by having sex or viewing sexual content, the growth that is supposed to finish around age 10-11 or with girls 8-9 is stopped.
To teach you a lesson- You were probably a victim to what I just said, your braind must be so underdeveloped and effed up that you're trying to justify it, WTF

[Shaggytheclown17]

Oh yeah Pox, we're fucking animals, I got news for you, I'm a human being, you can do wtf you want n not think you hafta pay for bad shit you do, go ahead n rape girls n tell lil kids that sex is good to do at a young age, lets see how long your perception lasts you dickhead.

[Proteas]

At 11/3/08 11:01 AM, poxpower wrote: What part of having a penis makes you an adult again?

You're actions determine whether you're an adult or not, and you're actions indicate that you are a 12 year old sycophant.

Kids love to hear about sex anyway, you have no right to say "sorry this is for adults only because I'm a prude and so was my father AND SO SHALL YOU mwahahaha!".

If they're my kids, I have every right to say they can't. What you do with you're own kids is your own damn business, but don't be surprised when your neighbors or you're children's school teachers call Human Services and the Cops on you because little Pox was found circle jerking in study hall.

I'm not saying it's a bad system, but it still makes kids prisoners with no money and nothing.

It also prevents them from being taken advantage of. Child labor, the sex trade, child brides, and lack of a decent education to help them know any better or better themselves, anyone?

Adulthood is great. You live alone, you do whatever you want on weekends. You can travel, you can anything you can afford at the store. You can eat pizza for a month. It rules.

And that suits you as an adult, as you are done with schooling and now can work for a living.

See you always do this "prove a negative" line of thinking.

I'm not asking you to prove a negative, I'm asking you to defend the positives of your own argument. You think it would be a great thing for children to be exposed to porno and sex at an early age, I'm asking you to show me WHY you think that way. Don't try and pull this bait-and-switch appeal to ridicule on me for questioning your seemingly infallable logic.

How about I ask you: what legitimate reason is there for an 8 year old to NOT know what the purpose of sex is?

There is no legitimate reason for an 8 year to know what sex is as they are not physically capable of having it, and the changes of puberty that allow them to have sex do not occur for another few years, so they have no biological urge to do it.

Your turn.

Kids are curious, they want to know and you've no right to keep the information away from them especially if it clearly doesn't pose a danger.

So why stop with sex? Why not go into pregnancy, std's, abortion, miscarriage, birth control, bastard children, and child support payments while we're at it?

I'm sorry your parents had a victorian mindset.

That was not an invitation for a personal attack, it was to show that you are not a representative sample of the population at large and to show that different people will react to the same situation differently based on their surrounding environment. You're Canadian, I'm American, there's going to be cultural differences, SURPRISE!

Should I start taking bets on whether or not you attack my different culture next?

Instinct. We're animals, we're aggressive. Kids fight when they're angry.

How are you going to act on an instinct if you don't know what to do?

I think your perception of sex is skewed. Now try to prove it's not!

Tell me why, and we'll go from there.

As opposed to telling them they should strive to be well-groomed, athletic and hot so they can bang Pamela Anderson?

Everyone bang's Pamela Anderson sooner or later.

None of this "be content with what you have" shit, that's peasant-age mentality. That's how poor, shitty people think. People who aren't content are movers and shakers. They build the world while other people have a thumb up their ass.

This from the guy who was just lauding the virtues of living by himself and eating pizza all the time.

[Drakim]

If it's basically "We should hide porn from children because it might make them have sex", then, why the fuck aren't we hiding cars?

The situation is identical except religion hasn't made it taboo to talk about cars.

Children should NEVER EVER under ANY circumstances drive cars. Why aren't we hiding cars away? Why do we openly let children see how we use and operate cars every day? Why do we glorify cars by giving toy cars to children, making them interested in this driving machine which they aren't allowed to use? How come monster trucks, and other things are presented as awesome?

I'm not some wacko who thinks we should make children have sex, but I definitely think pretending sex doesn't exist is the worst kind of "solution" you could ever have to such a problem.

[LazyDrunk]

At 11/3/08 11:59 AM, Drakim wrote: If it's basically "We should hide porn from children because it might make them have sex", then, why the fuck aren't we hiding cars?

First, your misuse of words within your quotations make me want to gag.

Second, we do hide cars you dumb fucking cunt. We hide them from untrained, undeveloped, unqualified children. The same for porn.

Third, I like counting.

The situation is identical except religion hasn't made it taboo to talk about cars.

Hey way to scapegoat religion like the stereotypical atheist zealot hack. And for what, a charge that they make something like sex taboo? Looks like you're going to make a real good argument here.

Children should NEVER EVER under ANY circumstances drive cars. Why aren't we hiding cars away? Why do we openly let children see how we use and operate cars every day? Why do we glorify cars by giving toy cars to children, making them interested in this driving machine which they aren't allowed to use? How come monster trucks, and other things are presented as awesome?

I'm not some wacko who thinks we should make children have sex, but I definitely think pretending sex doesn't exist is the worst kind of "solution" you could ever have to such a problem.

You're delusional.

[LazyDrunk]

At 11/3/08 11:59 AM, Drakim wrote: ravage me!!

Okay.

If it's basically "We should hide porn from children because it might make them have sex", then, why the fuck aren't we hiding cars?
The situation is identical except religion hasn't made it taboo to talk about cars.

Porn is "hidden" by passing legislation requiring proof of age for participants. Porn is regulated by restricting the age at which it may be consumed, which also varies from place to place. Cars, driving, insurance, and driver's licenses operate in the same restrictive, "hidden" sense.

Why aren't we hiding cars away? Why do we openly let children see how we use and operate cars every day?

I don't understand what you're doing here, being sarcastic or whatever.

Why do we glorify cars by giving toy cars to children, making them interested in this driving machine which they aren't allowed to use?

Automobiles are an inevitable part of our culture, like sex is. Not all sex was created equal, and neither are car shows. Would you let your child watch a daredevil tempt his fate, or perhaps a demolition derby where gruesome fatalities are unnaturally likely to occur? Same could be said for porn, as Marchohare pointed out. Comparing cars to cocks is dumb anyways, hence my first reply.

How come monster trucks, and other things are presented as awesome?

Because they transcend the limits of the norm.

I'm not some wacko who thinks we should make children have sex, but I definitely think pretending sex doesn't exist is the worst kind of "solution" you could ever have to such a problem.

I don't know what you are arguing for.

[KeithHybrid]

Ten bucks says Pox's views are due to him having "bad touch" with Uncle Jerkums as a child

Anyways, joke aside: the earlier and more frequently one is exposed to sex, the less exciting it becomes. Take, for example, macaroni and cheese: I love macaroni and cheese, it's great stuff. However, if I have it too often, I start becoming repulsed by it and more reluctant to eat it.

Or, let's say, that a relationship is cake, and sex is the frosting.

Okay, that sounded wrong...anyways...

We like cake with frosting on top. Frosting with cake on top, however, not so much.

I hope you can all see what I'm trying to get across with this.

[Drakim]

At 11/3/08 12:13 PM, LazyDrunk wrote:

At 11/3/08 11:59 AM, Drakim wrote: ravage me!!

Okay.

If it's basically "We should hide porn from children because it might make them have sex", then, why the fuck aren't we hiding cars?
The situation is identical except religion hasn't made it taboo to talk about cars.

Porn is "hidden" by passing legislation requiring proof of age for participants. Porn is regulated by restricting the age at which it may be consumed, which also varies from place to place. Cars, driving, insurance, and driver's licenses operate in the same restrictive, "hidden" sense.

No, because the "moral" thing to do with children is to pretend sex and porn does not even exist! We have no issues with children knowing about cars. We simply tell them, "it's only for grownups". We aren't afraid that they will try to drive a car and crash it the minute we look the other way. As I said, we even hype up cars and how awesome they are, by making toy cars and such.

Sex on the other way, we try to give them as little information as humanly possible. When they come literally asking what it is, we soften the explanation with metaphors like birds and bees. This is justified by that if we are open about sex, the children will start doing it. I'm simply pointing out that this is not the case for anything else, including cars. Children don't start hijacking and driving cars when we tell them what a car is. They can reasonably understand that it's only for grownups.

Why aren't we hiding cars away? Why do we openly let children see how we use and operate cars every day?

I don't understand what you're doing here, being sarcastic or whatever.

I think that's because you are slightly challenged, but I'm sure you can make it if you try hard enough! YOU CAN DO IT :o

Why do we glorify cars by giving toy cars to children, making them interested in this driving machine which they aren't allowed to use?

Automobiles are an inevitable part of our culture, like sex is. Not all sex was created equal, and neither are car shows. Would you let your child watch a daredevil tempt his fate, or perhaps a demolition derby where gruesome fatalities are unnaturally likely to occur? Same could be said for porn, as Marchohare pointed out. Comparing cars to cocks is dumb anyways, hence my first reply.

I agree on this. I wouldn't show a daredevil jumping with his car over ten virgins lined up and whatnot.

But that is hardly the same policy we have with sex and porn. We have a much more "you aren't allowed to talk about that" sense over it.

I mean, just look at what happened with GTA. When the public found out they had one little lame hidden sex scene, they went batshit insane. Despite this being a game where you kill hookers and shoot cops. I think demonstrates the absurdity of the situation. It's like the whole society has this mindset where they think "when it comes down to it, sex and nudity is something bad and evil", to the point where murder and violence is seen as lesser evils.

I'm not some wacko who thinks we should make children have sex, but I definitely think pretending sex doesn't exist is the worst kind of "solution" you could ever have to such a problem.

I don't know what you are arguing for.

I know you can make it one day. I'll be cheering for you.

[BUTANE]

I remember when i first found my dads porn collection....It was so fucking sweet!!! But unfortunately it was old porn from like the seventies and they were all hairy and shit. But thats cool...now i just seem to have a strange fetish for seventies porn. So maybe thats why they dont want kids seeing porn, cause it will turn them into to fetish feinds.