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I don't have any negative feelings towards Atheism or Atheists at all. I'm a believer in God, but I'll be the first to tell you they're not going to Hell (no one is). However, what annoys me isn't Atheism or the majority of Atheists, no, it's the teenage Atheists who believe that because in their opinion there is no God, that magically permits them to act how they wish without any consequences or because it's "cool." This then leads them to regurgitate Richard Dawkins quotes and act like they know everything, what it really means to be an Atheist, and just to jump on the contemporary "It's hip and modern to bash religion and call believers idiots and fools 'CAUSE I'M RATIONAL, LOGICAL, AND COOL!" bandwagon.

I have no problem with atheists, they can have their beliefs and I don't give a rat's ass.

But the stupid atheists are what really ticks me off. The ones that go around saying "HURRR GOD DOESN'T EXIST!" A variation of this would be "DURRR I BELIEVE IN A DEITY BUT IT DOESN'T CONTROL ME!"

Also a way to tell the difference between an intelligent atheist and a stupid atheist is to ask them what happens when they die. an intelligent atheist will tell you he doesn't know, because he isn't dead yet. A stupid atheist will tell you "DURR NOTHING, CUZ I'LL BE ROTTING IN THE GROUND!"

Atheism is the default position. You don't believe in something that you don't detect. They detect no God, so they believe in no God. Simple.

I have some issues with those Atheists who don't live as secular humanists, though. If you have no religion, I believe it's important to have a moral code that works.

At 10/25/08 07:34 PM, tomato-soup wrote: STOP WHAT YOUR DOING RIGHT NOW AND LISTEN.

Every single post you make about religion or atheism will get a MASS response of wanna bes and holier than thous who will bitch and whine for 5 pages. Its annoying.

>:(

I agree. And this topic did get 5 pages lol.

Atheism is the denial of logic pertaining to the existence of God, and the acceptance of no logic pertaining to the nonexistence of God. Atheism is illogical, and it is taking over. Atheism is the end of intelligent life.

Being Atheist makes me totally hard core, rebellious, and original. The fact that I disagree with a large majority of people makes me radical!

There's really not much to praise or discuss, they're not contributing to society by simply have a certain belief. If you're a fucking prick as a Christian you're going to be a prick as an Atheist.

It's not that big of a deal if someone's atheist. It's their choice.

I am a Christian though.

Personally, I think it's satanic, and I think anyone that is an atheist cannot possibly be a good person. I mean, how could someone be good when there is no god in their lives? It's impossible.

At 7/26/09 05:32 PM, ngmastah wrote: Personally, I think it's satanic, and I think anyone that is an atheist cannot possibly be a good person. I mean, how could someone be good when there is no god in their lives? It's impossible.

I respect your opinion but disagree, so much so that I literally pray to your fictional God that you're trolling. Maybe because to them God doesn't exist, therefore he can not be in their lives. I know a lot of Christian douche bags, "God" doesn't seem to do much for their personality.

At 7/26/09 04:57 PM, Psychophobia wrote: Atheism is the denial of logic pertaining to the existence of God,

Such logic does not exist.

and the acceptance of no logic pertaining to the nonexistence of God.

Wrong. It is illogical to believe strongly in something when there's no evidence to support or justify such a belief.

Atheism is the end of intelligent life.

Even though statistically atheists are generally more intelligent than theists.

Being an atheist actually means that God has left you, so it's not really the correct word to describe the un-religious ones. I'm non-religious, but I do have my own "code".

I have my own meaning on religion too. Also, are you religious guys aware that religion is kinda more fitting to the past, than now? The ideas of men and women having the same worth, human rights and such weren't existent when most of the world's well-known religions became, so a good deal of religions are actually discriminating, though I'm not totally sure which. Islam however is.

I think Atheism is a pretty cool guy, he has competent reasoning abilities and doesn't afraid of anything.

At 7/26/09 05:35 PM, reveihca wrote:

At 7/26/09 05:32 PM, ngmastah wrote: Personally, I think it's satanic, and I think anyone that is an atheist cannot possibly be a good person. I mean, how could someone be good when there is no god in their lives? It's impossible.

I respect your opinion but disagree, so much so that I literally pray to your fictional God that you're trolling. Maybe because to them God doesn't exist, therefore he can not be in their lives. I know a lot of Christian douche bags, "God" doesn't seem to do much for their personality.

How could you say that? God helps many people! And what about all the charities that churches sponser? Well if they didn't have God by their side then they wouldn't have been even motivated to even start a charity! Seriously, think about it,you always hear about churches helping the poor , but you never hear of a scientist or atheist donating lots of money to people in need.

At 7/26/09 05:36 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:

At 7/26/09 04:57 PM, Psychophobia wrote: Atheism is the denial of logic pertaining to the existence of God,

Such logic does not exist.

Such logic does exist.

and the acceptance of no logic pertaining to the nonexistence of God.

Wrong. It is illogical to believe strongly in something when there's no evidence to support or justify such a belief.

Wrong. It is illogical to disbelieve strongly in something when there's no evidence to support or justify such a belief.

Atheism is the end of intelligent life.

Even though statistically atheists are generally more intelligent than theists.

If by more intelligent you mean ignorant than yes.

its cool with me, as long as they are extreme-athetists, i already deal with enough extreme christiains

At 7/26/09 05:36 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:
Even though statistically atheists are generally more intelligent than theists.

Even though this guys an idiot, you can't honestly believe that statistic to be true?

At 7/26/09 05:39 PM, ngmastah wrote: How could you say that? God helps many people! And what about all the charities that churches sponser? Well if they didn't have God by their side then they wouldn't have been even motivated to even start a charity! Seriously, think about it,you always hear about churches helping the poor , but you never hear of a scientist or atheist donating lots of money to people in need.

God doesn't exist, it is a creation of man, not the other way around. It is the concept of God that helps people, it takes no actions itself to benefit people because it a fictional entity with no evidence or logic to prove its existence.

Your religious beliefs does not influence your personality, and I cannot stress this enough. The idealism that believing in God somehow makes you a better person is bull shit. Tell that to the millions of people (even religious ones) discriminated against and even killed by religious protesters in the name of God.

This isn't just exclusive to Christians below the Bible belt killing homosexuals, some of the most atrocious and barbaric acts are committed by people who worship Islam against people have done nothing to even defy their God.

For example I recently read an article where Muslim extremists raped an apartment full of children while crying God is good. Muhammad is a pedophile and promotes these views through his religion. If it wasn't for religion these kids would have never been raped, mutilated, beaten severely and killed by people motivated by their God.

At 7/26/09 05:45 PM, andhination wrote:

At 7/26/09 05:36 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:
Even though statistically atheists are generally more intelligent than theists.

Even though this guys an idiot, you can't honestly believe that statistic to be true?

Why wouldn't you

At 7/26/09 05:41 PM, Psychophobia wrote: Such logic does exist.

Where? Nowhere in life is it logical to put faith into something that there isn't a shred of evidence to support. Doing so is entirely illogical. Look up the definition of the word "logic" before you start throwing it around.

Wrong. It is illogical to disbelieve strongly in something when there's no evidence to support or justify such a belief.

Except not believing in god is entirely justified. It's simply a case of viewing the facts and making a rational decision according to them.

If by more intelligent you mean ignorant than yes.

Do your research. Areas with higher levels of Atheism tend to have higher average IQs. Areas with higher interest in religion tend to have lower IQs.

At 7/26/09 05:46 PM, Crumption wrote:

At 7/26/09 05:45 PM, andhination wrote:

At 7/26/09 05:36 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:
Even though statistically atheists are generally more intelligent than theists.

Even though this guys an idiot, you can't honestly believe that statistic to be true?

Why wouldn't you

Because statistics are almost always heavily biased, based on what surveys were made, where, etc.
And also because it's the type of statistic which is more likely to be biased than most others.

Besides, there's no 100% accurate way to measure intelligence. I don't see how they could prove it.

At 7/26/09 05:41 PM, Psychophobia wrote: Such logic does exist.

Such as?

Wrong. It is illogical to disbelieve strongly in something when there's no evidence to support or justify such a belief.

So it's better to believe in something with no evidence at all because there's no evidence to support disbelieving it? If someone says they slept with my boyfriend and I can't prove that they didn't should I believe them just because I can't prove them wrong?

If by more intelligent you mean ignorant than yes.

Religion is a fucking synonym for ignorance.

lots of South American (where im from) churches are fronts for drugrunners and drugs,so of course not alot of us are going to have faith in God, i think those charities you see on T.V are scams, i know people that pray to god when things get hard and pray to him so much and go to church when they using the time they wasted to help the problem,

some advice, you can pray all you want and go to chruch, god isnt going to help you.. you gotta help yourself

in my opinion he does not exist

/rant

srry bout that

At 7/26/09 05:49 PM, UndergroundOnly wrote: srry bout that

No need to be sorry for vocalizing your beliefs, it's not like overzealous religious nuts would extend the same courtesy.

At 7/26/09 05:46 PM, reveihca wrote:

At 7/26/09 05:39 PM, ngmastah wrote: How could you say that? God helps many people! And what about all the charities that churches sponser? Well if they didn't have God by their side then they wouldn't have been even motivated to even start a charity! Seriously, think about it,you always hear about churches helping the poor , but you never hear of a scientist or atheist donating lots of money to people in need.

God doesn't exist, it is a creation of man, not the other way around. It is the concept of God that helps people, it takes no actions itself to benefit people because it a fictional entity with no evidence or logic to prove its existence.

I request proof. You cannot give proof. Because there is no proof. You have made a statement with absolutely no proof to defend it. You have failed.

Your religious beliefs does not influence your personality, and I cannot stress this enough. The idealism that believing in God somehow makes you a better person is bull shit. Tell that to the millions of people (even religious ones) discriminated against and even killed by religious protesters in the name of God.

So you are suggesting that Religious folk are not as kind as Atheists?

This isn't just exclusive to Christians below the Bible belt killing homosexuals, some of the most atrocious and barbaric acts are committed by people who worship Islam against people have done nothing to even defy their God.

The Bible is false.

For example I recently read an article where Muslim extremists raped an apartment full of children while crying God is good. Muhammad is a pedophile and promotes these views through his religion. If it wasn't for religion these kids would have never been raped, mutilated, beaten severely and killed by people motivated by their God.

So you are suggesting that Religious folk are not as kind as Atheists?

At 7/26/09 05:49 PM, reveihca wrote:

At 7/26/09 05:41 PM, Psychophobia wrote: Such logic does exist.

Such as?

The existence of the Universe.

Wrong. It is illogical to disbelieve strongly in something when there's no evidence to support or justify such a belief.

So it's better to believe in something with no evidence at all because there's no evidence to support disbelieving it? If someone says they slept with my boyfriend and I can't prove that they didn't should I believe them just because I can't prove them wrong?

There is evidence to support it, but there is no evidence against it.

If by more intelligent you mean ignorant than yes.

Religion is a fucking synonym for ignorance.

Atheism is a fucking synonym for ignorance.

Hurray for reviving pointless threads! As if there aren't enough of these to go around...

I believe, having had a religious experience that led me back to God, but I don't really give a shit if someone wants to say he's not there. I just don't like when the atheists insult religious people just for being religious. Now can we PLEASE just stop the flame wars?!

Im not a smart ass but you want me to believe that a person who died, came back from the dead and no watches over everyone and make miracles happen, all you have to do is believe and pray and somehow magically God is going to help you

thats like asking me to believe in fucking Wizards Or Goblins

and dont tell me to "read the bible" that book has been changed so many times over the years you cant know what the original people who wrote it wrote or even if they did write it

At 7/26/09 05:48 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:

At 7/26/09 05:41 PM, Psychophobia wrote: Such logic does exist.

Where? Nowhere in life is it logical to put faith into something that there isn't a shred of evidence to support. Doing so is entirely illogical. Look up the definition of the word "logic" before you start throwing it around.

Everywhere. Everywhere in life it is logical to put faith into something that there isn't a shred of evidence against, but evidence to support. Doing so is completely logical. Look up the definition of the word "logic" before you start throwing it around.

Wrong. It is illogical to disbelieve strongly in something when there's no evidence to support or justify such a belief.

Except not believing in god is entirely justified. It's simply a case of viewing the facts and making a rational decision according to them.

Yes I have viewed the facts, and I have made a rational decision based on them.

If by more intelligent you mean ignorant than yes.

Do your research. Areas with higher levels of Atheism tend to have higher average IQs. Areas with higher interest in religion tend to have lower IQs.

And all the surveys are completely unbiased? idontthinkso.

At 7/26/09 05:55 PM, Psychophobia wrote: I request proof. You cannot give proof. Because there is no proof. You have made a statement with absolutely no proof to defend it. You have failed.

My proof is the lack of proof of God. The numerous facts surrounding why he has had no influence at no point of time. The more logical theories involving the creation and development of Earth. Saying "you fail" doesn't prove your point.

So you are suggesting that Religious folk are not as kind as Atheists?

Don't put words in my mouth, I said being Religious doesn't make you any kinder simply because you believe. That entire paragraph had no comment on Atheist actions. Atheist do not make up a group of people because Atheist do not believe in anything, there is no mutual similarity. You can't judge Atheist as a group because Atheist are individuals.

The Bible is false.

I agree.

So you are suggesting that Religious folk are not as kind as Atheists?

See the above comment.

Now can we PLEASE just stop the flame wars?!

It's not a flame war, it's a debate