I thought about a couple questions/statements. Just wanted to see everyone's general opinions. If it's too condensed for one thread alone, or they've all been individually been done before and it slipped by me, my apologies.
1. Brits, as an example, come out to the US for surgery. However, isn't it also true that Americans are now going to India and China in droves for much cheaper operations? This theoretically shows that Americans might not have the best health care in the world after all.
2. Nuclear Energy - while I'm for it, many argue that there's only about sixty years' worth of Uranium-235 to be used. Is this true? Wouldn't it thusly mean that a sixteen Billion dollar plant isn't worth the cost, despite how cheap and relatively safe it is?
2.5. Wind and Solar are unreliable as fuck.
3. For God's sakes, shouldn't America be home from Iraq already?
4. With China rapidly making the transition to superpower, what steps should be taken?
5. The fact that many Americans don't have Health Insurance is a fallacy; you can go to any hospital in the United States and receive defaulted care. However, many Liberals still insist upon some form of Universal Health Care, however. Logically, doesn't this imply that everyone will probably get the same universally shitty healthcare if we commit to such a project?
6. I believe in dedicating money to trying to reform our shitty public Education system - the bureaucracy in LAUSD (Los Angeles Unified School District) needs to be whittled down a bit. However, one made the argument "So because it's shitty, we shouldn't try to dedicate more money to it? The more input, the more output you will receive!"
At 10/23/08 11:14 PM, Blamitality wrote: I thought about a couple questions/statements. Just wanted to see everyone's general opinions. If it's too condensed for one thread alone, or they've all been individually been done before and it slipped by me, my apologies.
1. Brits, as an example, come out to the US for surgery. However, isn't it also true that Americans are now going to India and China in droves for much cheaper operations? This theoretically shows that Americans might not have the best health care in the world after all.
It's already known that the US doesn't have the best health care in the world. But what does that have to do with going to India and China for cheaper operation. Just because someone goes somewhere for cheaper procedures doesn't mean that they are better.
2. Nuclear Energy - while I'm for it, many argue that there's only about sixty years' worth of Uranium-235 to be used. Is this true? Wouldn't it thusly mean that a sixteen Billion dollar plant isn't worth the cost, despite how cheap and relatively safe it is?
Never heard that, would be interesting to find out.
2.5. Wind and Solar are unreliable as fuck.
Not a question really. Care to explain more about the unreliability?
3. For God's sakes, shouldn't America be home from Iraq already?
Technically no. The problem is that since the US overthrew the Iraqi government, it is now our duty to ensure the new one is stable enough to survive us leaving. While it is very arguable that we should have never been there in the first place, to leave now would make the area even more unstable.
4. With China rapidly making the transition to superpower, what steps should be taken?
I don't think that it'll be able to maintain momentum.
5. The fact that many Americans don't have Health Insurance is a fallacy; you can go to any hospital in the United States and receive defaulted care. However, many Liberals still insist upon some form of Universal Health Care, however. Logically, doesn't this imply that everyone will probably get the same universally shitty healthcare if we commit to such a project?
Here's the thing. Even though you can go to the emergency room to get help, you are still billed for it even if you do not have insurance. Without insurance, many procedures will simply bankrupts a person. If they had health coverage then at least a portion of the procedure would be covered and it could potentially save the person's home.
6. I believe in dedicating money to trying to reform our shitty public Education system - the bureaucracy in LAUSD (Los Angeles Unified School District) needs to be whittled down a bit. However, one made the argument "So because it's shitty, we shouldn't try to dedicate more money to it? The more input, the more output you will receive!"
I am all for giving some more money to schools that need it. But where the money is spent should be tightly monitored and controlled. I think far too much money goes into certain school sports than should in many states when it should be going to improving the education of the children in that school.
At 10/23/08 11:14 PM, Blamitality wrote: I thought about a couple questions/statements. Just wanted to see everyone's general opinions. If it's too condensed for one thread alone, or they've all been individually been done before and it slipped by me, my apologies.
1. Brits, as an example, come out to the US for surgery. However, isn't it also true that Americans are now going to India and China in droves for much cheaper operations? This theoretically shows that Americans might not have the best health care in the world after all.
2. Nuclear Energy - while I'm for it, many argue that there's only about sixty years' worth of Uranium-235 to be used. Is this true? Wouldn't it thusly mean that a sixteen Billion dollar plant isn't worth the cost, despite how cheap and relatively safe it is?
Two words: breeder reactors.
2.5. Wind and Solar are unreliable as fuck.
Truthiness.
3. For God's sakes, shouldn't America be home from Iraq already?
We take it as a point of national pride that we're willing to help our enemies rebuild after a war, as a gesture of reconciliation - because we're civilized like that. While the war itself is pretty much over, we're going to be rebuilding for a long time.
4. With China rapidly making the transition to superpower, what steps should be taken?
LOL IDK. I guess it would be prudent to strengthen our economic ties with them so that they don't see us as enemies when the time comes. However, I sincerely doubt that China is going to be able to advance to the level of a superpower within our lifetimes, simply as a matter of their domestic policies and the recent market downturn (especially with their now-infamous product quality record).
5. The fact that many Americans don't have Health Insurance is a fallacy; you can go to any hospital in the United States and receive defaulted care. However, many Liberals still insist upon some form of Universal Health Care, however. Logically, doesn't this imply that everyone will probably get the same universally shitty healthcare if we commit to such a project?
Yes
6. I believe in dedicating money to trying to reform our shitty public Education system - the bureaucracy in LAUSD (Los Angeles Unified School District) needs to be whittled down a bit. However, one made the argument "So because it's shitty, we shouldn't try to dedicate more money to it? The more input, the more output you will receive!"
Well, maybe throwing money at the problem is the cause of the problem in the first place - bureaucracy breeds corruption, IMHO.
At 10/23/08 11:14 PM, Blamitality wrote: 1. Brits, as an example, come out to the US for surgery. However, isn't it also true that Americans are now going to India and China in droves for much cheaper operations? This theoretically shows that Americans might not have the best health care in the world after all.
Cheaper =/= better
2. Nuclear Energy - while I'm for it, many argue that there's only about sixty years' worth of Uranium-235 to be used. Is this true?
Nope. There's fucking centuries worth of the stuf in Australia.
3. For God's sakes, shouldn't America be home from Iraq already?
Shit's still bad. Pull out now and it will collapse.
4. With China rapidly making the transition to superpower, what steps should be taken?
Nothing different?
6. I believe in dedicating money to trying to reform our shitty public Education system - the bureaucracy in LAUSD (Los Angeles Unified School District) needs to be whittled down a bit. However, one made the argument "So because it's shitty, we shouldn't try to dedicate more money to it? The more input, the more output you will receive!"
Money isn't everything when it comes to education.
Sure, if they need more funding, give it to them, but it's better to approach the problem with logic than to arbitrarily throw money at it.
At 10/23/08 11:14 PM, Blamitality wrote:
1. Brits, as an example, come out to the US for surgery. However, isn't it also true that Americans are now going to India and China in droves for much cheaper operations? This theoretically shows that Americans might not have the best health care in the world after all.
It might just mean that their healthcare is cheaper... Not better...
2. Nuclear Energy - while I'm for it, many argue that there's only about sixty years' worth of Uranium-235 to be used. Is this true? Wouldn't it thusly mean that a sixteen Billion dollar plant isn't worth the cost, despite how cheap and relatively safe it is?
That's a complete lie. There are billions of years of uranium left. It's just that the reserves we're using now will only last 60 or so years.
Bernard Cohen, professor of nuclear physics, explains it well:
http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/progr ess/cohen.html
2.5. Wind and Solar are unreliable as fuck.
They're unreliable because they rely on consistent weather patterns, because solar panels don't work very well in cloudy skies.
The counterargument used is that if we had a better grid for distributing power, we could deal with that unreliability.
My personal opinion is that that unreliability makes them inappropriate as main power sources, but they can still be used to supplement our main nuclear supply.
4. With China rapidly making the transition to superpower, what steps should be taken?
China has about 5 times the population of the US, so really no matter what they do they're going to be significant. I suggest that we work to create a lasting, long term alliance with China.
5. The fact that many Americans don't have Health Insurance is a fallacy; you can go to any hospital in the United States and receive defaulted care. However, many Liberals still insist upon some form of Universal Health Care, however. Logically, doesn't this imply that everyone will probably get the same universally shitty healthcare if we commit to such a project?
Yes.
6. I believe in dedicating money to trying to reform our shitty public Education system - the bureaucracy in LAUSD (Los Angeles Unified School District) needs to be whittled down a bit. However, one made the argument "So because it's shitty, we shouldn't try to dedicate more money to it? The more input, the more output you will receive!"
I think what we need to do is break the teacher's union before we can start to cut people out.
"The mountain is a quarry of rock, the trees are a forest of timber, the rivers are water in the dam, the wind is wind-in-the-sails"
-Martin Heidegger
At 10/23/08 11:14 PM, Blamitality wrote: I thought about a couple questions/statements. Just wanted to see everyone's general opinions. If it's too condensed for one thread alone, or they've all been individually been done before and it slipped by me, my apologies.
1. Brits, as an example, come out to the US for surgery. However, isn't it also true that Americans are now going to India and China in droves for much cheaper operations? This theoretically shows that Americans might not have the best health care in the world after all.
Who said America has the best healthcare in the world? It's already been established it doesn't (and if your interested to know who has the best, it's France, by WHO rankings of course). However, cheaper does not equal better. Chinese and Indian healthcare is probably worse than American healthcare.
2. Nuclear Energy - while I'm for it, many argue that there's only about sixty years' worth of Uranium-235 to be used. Is this true? Wouldn't it thusly mean that a sixteen Billion dollar plant isn't worth the cost, despite how cheap and relatively safe it is?
I'm not sure. I'm for nuclear energy, but I'm also for wind and solar.
2.5. Wind and Solar are unreliable as fuck.
Not really a question, but I'm pretty sure this is bull. While it's true there not as efficient as nuclear power, I'm pretty sure their cheaper. Unreliable though? Maybe not. I'm no expert on this stuff.
3. For God's sakes, shouldn't America be home from Iraq already?
Well, this one doesn't really have a right or wrong answer, so I won't bother giving my opinion, so this thread doesn't turn into another leave vs stay in Iraq one.
4. With China rapidly making the transition to superpower, what steps should be taken?
Well, there's really little we can do to stop China (or Russia) from becoming a superpower. Anything we try to do to stop them will just end up hurting us just as much.
5. The fact that many Americans don't have Health Insurance is a fallacy; you can go to any hospital in the United States and receive defaulted care. However, many Liberals still insist upon some form of Universal Health Care, however. Logically, doesn't this imply that everyone will probably get the same universally shitty healthcare if we commit to such a project?
Yes, but then they have to pay, which could bankrupt them. That's the point of insurance: the pay fro that shit. And considering that most Western nations with universial healthcare have better healthcare than the US, it's hardly shitty.
6. I believe in dedicating money to trying to reform our shitty public Education system - the bureaucracy in LAUSD (Los Angeles Unified School District) needs to be whittled down a bit. However, one made the argument "So because it's shitty, we shouldn't try to dedicate more money to it? The more input, the more output you will receive!"
Well, how else to solve the situation? Dedicate money to reform the system, not to mention the fact that so many of the problems are caused by underfunding in the first place. You can't solve a problem if you just ignore it.
Freedom is always the freedom of dissenters. -Rosa Luxemburg
Ignorance is the root of all evil. -Molly Ivins
This is all I ask.
At 10/23/08 11:14 PM, Blamitality wrote: I thought about a couple questions/statements. Just wanted to see everyone's general opinions. If it's too condensed for one thread alone, or they've all been individually been done before and it slipped by me, my apologies.
1. Brits, as an example, come out to the US for surgery. However, isn't it also true that Americans are now going to India and China in droves for much cheaper operations? This theoretically shows that Americans might not have the best health care in the world after all.
I by no means think that we have the best system, but its not the worst either. A lot of the time that people go overseas for surgeries its because other nations are allowed to use procedures that are forbidden for use in the US (mostly by the AMA, which will do everything in its power to shut down those that oppose them).
Its not really superior care, its a different type of care, at least in many cases.
2. Nuclear Energy - while I'm for it, many argue that there's only about sixty years' worth of Uranium-235 to be used. Is this true? Wouldn't it thusly mean that a sixteen Billion dollar plant isn't worth the cost, despite how cheap and relatively safe it is?
I've never heard this.
2.5. Wind and Solar are unreliable as fuck.
True enough
3. For God's sakes, shouldn't America be home from Iraq already?
No, not at all.
Should we have gone in the first place? Not really.
The problem is that you need to look at what will happen if we leave before the place is completely stable (which is a relative term). You have 3 options, as I see it. Option 1 (by far the least likely): somehow the Iraqis manage to maintain order and peace, the world is happy (honestly, one in a million chance for that). Option 2: Iraq descends into chaos; millions die, civil war, the US and NATO will be back in there in 20 years and our kids (instead of our friends) will be dying, and it will be worse since all of the infrastructure will be gone and our enemies entrenched. Option 3: Iraq's neighbors use the instability to fight over the land, leading to a multi-nation war in the Middle East; in short, nightmare for the US.
4. With China rapidly making the transition to superpower, what steps should be taken?
If the West isn't careful, China will turn expansionist (if their current government doesn't fall and get replaced by something friendlier), as they have done previously in history. They have the largest standing army in the world with the largest population base for recruitment (since they limit the number of children, most Chinese families want boys, and they allow the murder of unwanted children, AKA girls). Can you say WWIII?
5. The fact that many Americans don't have Health Insurance is a fallacy; you can go to any hospital in the United States and receive defaulted care. However, many Liberals still insist upon some form of Universal Health Care, however. Logically, doesn't this imply that everyone will probably get the same universally shitty healthcare if we commit to such a project?
Say hello to Canada's Socialist method, that decides whether you are worthy of care. I just hope your doctors don't guess wrong and leave you to die, thinking its just something minor. Also, you can rule out catching things like cancer early, since you won't be worth paying attention to until you're really sick.
6. I believe in dedicating money to trying to reform our shitty public Education system - the bureaucracy in LAUSD (Los Angeles Unified School District) needs to be whittled down a bit. However, one made the argument "So because it's shitty, we shouldn't try to dedicate more money to it? The more input, the more output you will receive!"
I've watched what generally happens with pouring more money into public schools. They make beautiful new buildings that waste space and money and the system doesn't get any better. Let people pick where their money is going instead. They often make better choices than an entrenched bureaucracy that is largely unionized (hence, corrupt).
"I love chaos, its so chaotic." - Buzz
At 10/23/08 11:14 PM, Blamitality wrote: 5. The fact that many Americans don't have Health Insurance is a fallacy; you can go to any hospital in the United States and receive defaulted care. However, many Liberals still insist upon some form of Universal Health Care, however. Logically, doesn't this imply that everyone will probably get the same universally shitty healthcare if we commit to such a project?
No, if you go into a hospital without insurance and they take care of you, you will be bankrupted upon receiving your bill. My friend owes the hospital 32,000 dollars for two broken legs he was treated for. Liberal's health plan is to make a universal health care system open to those who don't have the money to pay for their own healthcare, they're still leaving businesses out there to create the better coverage for more money, they just want to cover people who have no money (and it probably would be shitty compared to something you can get from the private sectory, so we won't see that disappearing).
What can a thoughtful man hope for mankind on Earth, given the experience of the past million years? Nothing
China becoming a superpower (i.e. prosperous, these are two things I already thought it was) is nothing but beneficial to us, and to the world.
Fucking ignorant americans disgust me.
At 10/24/08 12:42 PM, JackPhantasm wrote: China becoming a superpower (i.e. prosperous, these are two things I already thought it was) is nothing but beneficial to us, and to the world.
Fucking ignorant americans disgust me.
You're the one jumping to the conclusion that we're ignorant.
China has been an enemy of America far longer than it has pretended to be friendly. They have aided our enemies in wars before. They still are under an evil and totalitarian government that doesn't allow the freedoms America stands for.
China's just been friendly for a while now because it suits their purposes. They haven't changed at all. They still hold Taiwan under threat. They still persecute various religious groups. They still execute those who question the state.
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