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At 1/28/09 02:38 PM, PolishMatt wrote:

At 1/27/09 07:45 PM, crazysalt wrote: other than that what do you think of the build??

-There is no i7 which is a major let down. Investing 100$ on top of the price you're paying for your current Quad, would of given you an super awesome processor, even if it requires DDR3 - though it's becoming more common and I personally believe it's time up move on from DDR2.

sorry but i dont have the money to do that and i just feel its overkill....

-I'll just state the obvious and say that Microsoft's Winodws 7 is coming out and it's going to kick the living shit out of Vista (I love Vista and I use it), so by not even pirating it and just buying it, you're going to get left behind now when they release it around May or June.

i know that there was the option to just steal it but its just to much of a risk and my father is overlooking the build so he would get angry at me.... and ill just upgrade it to 7 i have no problem with that....

-You have a really beautiful set up, but also a very electricity hungry one indeed. I would actually go on to say that the 750Watt PSU could be a boarder line size for the your rig. And if you ever plan on doing a crossfire with your current Radeon HD 4870, then you will have to definitely get a new PSU.

may be but im not sure, im most definetly not going to do crossfire, i dont have the money really and dont need to.... but i am getting the 1200 case so that might require more power.... not sure ill look into a 850 psu got any recommendations....?

-Why not invest 25$ more and get an extra 250GB or 50$ more on both and create a RAID0 of 2TB instead of 1.5TB. WD is a good choice, they make the best HDDs around.

i dont really actually feel the need to get more than 750 gb for memory, ill never surpass that ammount and if i do then my case has plenty of room for more hdd's, also if it gets tight i have a 600 gb external hdd....

-You're getting a mid-tower? Even with all this? Get a full tower. It doesn't look fancy, but it's not suppose to and there are no included fans which isn't a big deal for most. Most importantly it's huge and will be capable of handling any RAID set up you throw at it and still provide lots of room for your other stuff. Full Tower.

full towers are good but the only problem with that one i feel is airflow, so im just getting the 1200 antec case which looks cool has room and good airflow.

here is my build but updated:

1.)CASE Antec Twelve Hundred ATX Gaming Case
http://www.microcenter.com/single_produc t_results.phtml?product_id=0288150
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2.)VIDEO CARD SAPPHIRE 100259-1GL Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready

CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as px?Item=N82E16814102801
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3.)PSU CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as px?Item=N82E16817139006
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4.)MOBO GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as px?Item=N82E16813128359
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5.)PROCESSOR Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model BX80562Q6600 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as px?Item=N82E16819115017
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6.)2 HDD'S Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as px?Item=N82E16822136074
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7.)8 gb TOTAL RAM(two quantities) G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as px?Item=N82E16820231166
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8.)HEAT SYNC Thermalright TRUE Black 120 CPU Cooler
http://www.crazypc.com/products/true-bla ck-50984.html
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9.)120MM CASE FAN COOLER MASTER R4-L2S-122B-GP 120mm 4 BLUE LED LED Case Fan - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as px?Item=N82E16835103022
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10.)HDD TRANSFER VANTEC CB-ISATAU2 SATA/IDE to USB 2.0 Adapter - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as px?Item=N82E16812232002

At 1/28/09 08:59 PM, crazysalt wrote: sorry but i dont have the money to do that and i just feel its overkill....

If you think so, it's just a newer Quad with Hyper-Threading, L3 Cache and a Memory Controller, integrated into it. 920 is fine, the 965 is an unnecessary over kill.

i know that there was the option to just steal it but its just to much of a risk and my father is overlooking the build so he would get angry at me.... and ill just upgrade it to 7 i have no problem with that....

Aren't you 19? You should be at a university campus or living on your own and having to deal with your parents lol. I know it's ungraceful to steal software but I don't see any risk in it, unless your ISP is a dick and tracking your downloads (Unlikely). Then it's a time to switch.

i dont really actually feel the need to get more than 750 gb for memory

Didn't you say in your previous post that you're getting two of them? You didn't specific the type of RAID, but if it's 0, then both HHDs are combined.

full towers are good but the only problem with that one i feel is airflow, so im just getting the 1200 antec case which looks cool has room and good airflow.

Airflow for what, if you look at it, only the cpu and gpu require some noticeable cooling and there are vents for that in every case.

At 1/28/09 10:36 PM, PolishMatt wrote:

At 1/28/09 08:59 PM, crazysalt wrote: sorry but i dont have the money to do that and i just feel its overkill....

If you think so, it's just a newer Quad with Hyper-Threading, L3 Cache and a Memory Controller, integrated into it. 920 is fine, the 965 is an unnecessary over kill.

still its just to much for me and i dont need it...... not to much of a heavy gamer

i know that there was the option to just steal it but its just to much of a risk and my father is overlooking the build so he would get angry at me.... and ill just upgrade it to 7 i have no problem with that....

Aren't you 19? You should be at a university campus or living on your own and having to deal with your parents lol. I know it's ungraceful to steal software but I don't see any risk in it, unless your ISP is a dick and tracking your downloads (Unlikely). Then it's a time to switch.

dude if windows updater gets in then your fucked basically and windows becomes null, and dude this might come as a shock but im 13.... and no my isp is not a dick..... i torrent shit all the time day and night but windows is just to much.....

i dont really actually feel the need to get more than 750 gb for memory

Didn't you say in your previous post that you're getting two of them? You didn't specific the type of RAID, but if it's 0, then both HHDs are combined.

that was actually a typo..... i ment to get only one 750 gb hdd then i decided to go with raid0 and went with 2 300gb hdds and now am at two 320 hdds, i barelly ever run out of room so it would be a waste...

full towers are good but the only problem with that one i feel is airflow, so im just getting the 1200 antec case which looks cool has room and good airflow.

Airflow for what, if you look at it, only the cpu and gpu require some noticeable cooling and there are vents for that in every case.

yes there are but this one just looks so cool ..... and its functional : P

all in all i have allready ordered everything so i cant do anything about it now : ( but i mean for a 13 year old kid its a good build right, and no my dad is not doing all the shit for me nor is he paying for it he is just so interested that he MUST watch for some reason....go figure he's my dad.....

At 1/28/09 10:46 PM, crazysalt wrote: all in all i have allready ordered everything so i cant do anything about it now : ( but i mean for a 13 year old kid its a good build right, and no my dad is not doing all the shit for me nor is he paying for it he is just so interested that he MUST watch for some reason....go figure he's my dad.....

Hey man, that's cool, I was only wondering because your profile was saying a different age. The build is solid, sorry if I came off edgy, I'm like that sometimes.

im currently using my PC, which is an Alienware Area-51 7500

here are the specs

CPU- Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800
RAM- 2 GB DDR2
HDD- 150 GB

At 1/29/09 12:24 PM, JKMonkey wrote: im currently using my PC, which is an Alienware Area-51 7500

here are the specs

CPU- Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800
RAM- 2 GB DDR2
HDD- 150 GB

whoops, i meant to write

HDD- *250 GB

sorry for the typo

extremely sorry for the triple post, but i found some more specs for my pc

Alienware Area-51 7500

CPU- Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800
RAM- 2 GB DDR2
HDD- 250 GB
Optical Drives- Double-layer DVD±RW
Graphics- Two nVidia GeForce 8800 GT Cards
OS- Windows Vista Home Premium

Alienshit....

Your computer isn't bad by any standards. The thing that disgusts me is that you probably paid around 5000 for that computer, when it didn't cost more than 2500 in it's shining day.

They make sleek cases though. Definitely salvage it for a future build if you plan on a new system soon.

At 1/29/09 05:22 PM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote: Alienshit....

Couldn't have said it better myself, I had the same exact thought running through my mind. It legitimately depresses me to think people are paying such fortunes for computers, simply because they don't know any better.

Time to shell out 100 jewros to get some things:

Wotlk - 30 euro
Gaming mouse mx518 - 30 euro
Headset - 40 euro http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as px?Item=N82E16826265065

There goes 1/3 of my money for a new computer. :(

Havent I told you multiple times to fork out for a keyboard instead of a mouse? As long as it isn't mechanical it's fine.

At 1/29/09 05:57 PM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote: Havent I told you multiple times to fork out for a keyboard instead of a mouse? As long as it isn't mechanical it's fine.

Don't need one.

I'm fine with my keys on my keyboard.

So I've been thinking about building a new computer for awhile now. I've been in need for a new computer for a long time, especially when I consider that my current computer is almost eight years old. I've been looking at many different barebones kits and I think I came across a good one.

Link

Anyway, I was wondering if you guys thought this was a good kit or not. I plan on using this computer for gaming, internet and school work. I'm more than likely going to buy extra RAM for the system, seeing that there's two extra slots.

At 1/29/09 06:20 PM, Deadly-Shadow wrote: So I've been thinking about building a new computer for awhile now. I've been in need for a new computer for a long time, especially when I consider that my current computer is almost eight years old. I've been looking at many different barebones kits and I think I came across a good one.

Time to help someone. Oh goodie!

It is better to just select the parts instead of getting a barebone kit, also those parts suck.

Motherboard: I'd get this. Gigabyte is an excellent brand, and that mobo is ace. Not to mention cheaper.

CPU: No. Seriously that CPU is not the way to go. Not because it's not a high end Intel quad, but because you can get a better CPU for a lower price. The AMD Athlon 7750 BE KUMA CORE. It is only 2.7 Ghz, but it is faster clock for clock (when they are at same speeds), and it's black edition, meaning it overclocks nicely. It can do 3.2 - 3.4 Ghz easily if you have a CPU cooler.

GPU: That card is pretty shite. Although it depends on your budget. Personally I'd get a 9800GTX+. Or you can add a bit more and get an ATi 4870 HD. Awesome bang for the buck.

Memory: I'd just get some 4GB RAM. I'd get Patriot RAM like
this. It's 1066 Mhz which is nice. Also 25 dollar rebate. You can also get G skill cause it's cheaper, but I'd still get Patriot cause it's awesome as phuq.

HDD: I guess it's okay, but honestly I'd get Western Digital. I have Seagate and it's sorta fucking up on me.

Case: This depends. You can get a standard case but you might have temperature problems with it. I have one of them and I have to keep my side panel off so it's not hot. I'd get an Antec 900. You will also need to get some case fans for it, but they are not expensive.

PSU: I recommend a trusted brand that won't shit on you. You don't need 600 W for that setup by the way, but if you will get a better GPU like I said, you might need 650 W even if you choose the 4870.
I won't suggest you anything yet because I don't know how much W you will need.

CPU fan: You definitely need a CPU fan. Stock will not keep it cool enough and you will have trouble with OCing. You should get the CPU fan I have. It's cheap as FUCK and does the job very nice. 25 dollars. Bam. http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.asp x?Item=N82E16835185125&Tpk=arctic%20cool er%20freezer%20pro%2064

Sorry if I missed anything and don't hesitate to ask for more help.

At 1/29/09 05:22 PM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote: Alienshit....

Your computer isn't bad by any standards. The thing that disgusts me is that you probably paid around 5000 for that computer, when it didn't cost more than 2500 in it's shining day.

They make sleek cases though. Definitely salvage it for a future build if you plan on a new system soon.

it was actually my gf's first and then she gave it to me, and it plays games pretty nicely actually

but yeah, im definatly thinking about making a new computer, me and a couple of friends built a comp for one of my friends cause he was running on a 15 year old computer running on Win95,

anyone recommend me some parts to build a new comp, good ones but relativly cheap (i really dont wanna spend $2000+ on making a new comp)

At 1/29/09 06:48 PM, JKMonkey wrote:

anyone recommend me some parts to build a new comp, good ones but relativly cheap (i really dont wanna spend $2000+ on making a new comp)

You need to state how good. You can get the parts I suggest above for a relatively cheap build that does well in games, or you can get an Intel Quad with a GTX 260 or even 280 which isn't that expensive but not cheap either.

At 1/29/09 06:46 PM, TacoFreak wrote: Sorry if I missed anything and don't hesitate to ask for more help.

Thanks for the advice, I'll keep that in mind later on. I don't plan on building my PC untill I get a job, that way I can easily make back all the money I spend. As for the budget, I'm trying to stay under $800, but I'm willing to go over if I absolutly have to.

At 1/29/09 05:54 PM, TacoFreak wrote:
Headset - 40 euro http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as px?Item=N82E16826265065

Scratch that, just gonna get the Sennheiser HD 201 g4me, cheaper and better sound quality. Doesn't come with a mic but I can always use my current headset for when I need to talk.

At 1/29/09 06:49 PM, TacoFreak wrote:
You need to state how good. You can get the parts I suggest above for a relatively cheap build that does well in games, or you can get an Intel Quad with a GTX 260 or even 280 which isn't that expensive but not cheap either.

i want it to be good at playing games (like Spore, Empire: Total War, Left 4 Dead, etc.) but i also want it to have a lot of room on the hard drive (1 TB+)

At 1/29/09 01:00 AM, PolishMatt wrote:

At 1/28/09 10:46 PM, crazysalt wrote: all in all i have allready ordered everything so i cant do anything about it now : ( but i mean for a 13 year old kid its a good build right, and no my dad is not doing all the shit for me nor is he paying for it he is just so interested that he MUST watch for some reason....go figure he's my dad.....

Hey man, that's cool, I was only wondering because your profile was saying a different age. The build is solid, sorry if I came off edgy, I'm like that sometimes.

no its no problem i can be like that also..... any way ya the processor came today but im kinda worried because the box arrived with a huge hole in the side, not like a clean hole like it was meant to be there but like a huge rip...... the thing looks fine but i just have to wait untill everything else arrives before i will know....

At 1/29/09 06:53 PM, Deadly-Shadow wrote:

Thanks for the advice, I'll keep that in mind later on. I don't plan on building my PC untill I get a job, that way I can easily make back all the money I spend. As for the budget, I'm trying to stay under $800, but I'm willing to go over if I absolutly have to.

That's a good budget. It would help to know if it's going to be for work or play. And if a monitor is part of the price because that usually takes fair chunk of it, but for now I will assume it's just the station. The following is honestly the best damn build for type of work load and for under 800 quid. Excel tells me all of this is $794.92

CPU - Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200. - $169.99
GPU - EVGA GeForce 9800 GTX - 512MB. - $159.99
RAM - Kingston HyperX 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066. - 2 x $24.99
HHD - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM. - $119.99
PSU - COOLER MASTER Real Power Pro RS-650. - $109.99
MOBO - GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775. - $134.99
CASE - Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX. - $49.99

All the parts are pretty self-explanatory. And in case you want a monitor, here is a dirt cheap one that has amazing picture quality. 1920x1080 (Full HD) 22".

Monitor - ViewSonic VX2233wm Black. - $189.99

At 1/29/09 07:02 PM, TacoFreak wrote: Scratch that, just gonna get the Sennheiser HD 201 g4me, cheaper and better sound quality. Doesn't come with a mic but I can always use my current headset for when I need to talk.

If it's one thing I have learned in my life, it's that it helps not going cheap on headphones. I am not in anyway saying to spending a grand or even half a grand on headphones, but it would be my suggestion to get a pair for 100~200$. Yes, price for a little item but the value comes back when you don't have to shell out another 40$ again and again due to the last pair dying.

But of course, there are some exceptions to this, as I'm using mostly (I got others) Sony's MDR-V150s; the sound quality would be a 7/10 and durability a 4/5. It takes about 2 years for these things to have the plastic build to break, but the actual speakers inside never die... never - I mean like, I listen to music so loud that I should be def now.

Other News.

I want to get either a Steelseries - 7G or a DasKeyboard - Ultimate. I have an original IBM - M Model series keyboard from 1991 August 1st that I found in the trash, what a dumb person. The keyboard is 5 days older then me (Fucked up coquencidence) and it's the best keyboard I have ever used.

These keyboards replicate the same mechanical key stroke mechanism found in the original Model M keyboards which produce their signature two-click sound by every key stroke. I'm a touch typist and having no labels on the keys would make no difference to me and it would surely annoy anyone else who would use my computer.

They're pricey but I'm almost willing to pay that much for them. They even have two USB ports and use the old PS/2 connector which is better due to it producing no key-ghosting from any combination of keys.

I'll be injecting my opinion into all this when I get home. An 800x600 resolution grouped with a dialup connection doesn't do good things for researching. In the meantime though, if anyone ever needs spare parts for a build, I have 2 lowly power supplys, a bunch of IDE DVD burners, and tons of other loose nuts and bolts. I'd be happy to send them over for a menial price plus shipping. Of course, intl shipping is ridiculous, but I'll do what I can do.

Hmm... I'm interested.

At 1/30/09 06:33 AM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote: I'll be injecting my opinion into all this when I get home. An 800x600 resolution grouped with a dialup connection doesn't do good things for researching.

do they still have dial-up? I thought they were going to do away with that

or am i thinking of something else?

At 1/30/09 07:57 PM, JKMonkey wrote:

At 1/30/09 06:33 AM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote: I'll be injecting my opinion into all this when I get home. An 800x600 resolution grouped with a dialup connection doesn't do good things for researching.

do they still have dial-up? I thought they were going to do away with that

or am i thinking of something else?

You're thinking of analog cable, but that sure wasn't an ethernet cable connected to that computer.

I feel like an idiot for asking such a simble question, but, how do you password protect a folder in Vista?

At 1/31/09 08:33 AM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote: I feel like an idiot for asking such a simble question, but, how do you password protect a folder in Vista?

Here.

At 1/31/09 09:04 AM, TacoFreak wrote:

At 1/31/09 08:33 AM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote: I feel like an idiot for asking such a simble question, but, how do you password protect a folder in Vista?

Here.

I'm not so pissed that you told me that, but more so that there's no way to do it without paying for 3rd party software.

At 1/31/09 11:03 AM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote:

I'm not so pissed that you told me that, but more so that there's no way to do it without paying for 3rd party software.

Here.

Or downgrade to XP.

GIGABYTE mobo's are the best.

My $70 MOBO works perfectly.