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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-29 12:24:03 Reply

im currently using my PC, which is an Alienware Area-51 7500

here are the specs

CPU- Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800
RAM- 2 GB DDR2
HDD- 150 GB


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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-29 12:25:43 Reply

At 1/29/09 12:24 PM, JKMonkey wrote: im currently using my PC, which is an Alienware Area-51 7500

here are the specs

CPU- Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800
RAM- 2 GB DDR2
HDD- 150 GB

whoops, i meant to write

HDD- *250 GB

sorry for the typo

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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-29 12:43:51 Reply

extremely sorry for the triple post, but i found some more specs for my pc

Alienware Area-51 7500

CPU- Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800
RAM- 2 GB DDR2
HDD- 250 GB
Optical Drives- Double-layer DVD±RW
Graphics- Two nVidia GeForce 8800 GT Cards
OS- Windows Vista Home Premium


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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-29 17:22:20 Reply

Alienshit....

Your computer isn't bad by any standards. The thing that disgusts me is that you probably paid around 5000 for that computer, when it didn't cost more than 2500 in it's shining day.

They make sleek cases though. Definitely salvage it for a future build if you plan on a new system soon.

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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-29 17:46:57 Reply

At 1/29/09 05:22 PM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote: Alienshit....

Couldn't have said it better myself, I had the same exact thought running through my mind. It legitimately depresses me to think people are paying such fortunes for computers, simply because they don't know any better.


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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-29 17:54:26 Reply

Time to shell out 100 jewros to get some things:

Wotlk - 30 euro
Gaming mouse mx518 - 30 euro
Headset - 40 euro http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as px?Item=N82E16826265065

There goes 1/3 of my money for a new computer. :(

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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-29 17:57:39 Reply

Havent I told you multiple times to fork out for a keyboard instead of a mouse? As long as it isn't mechanical it's fine.

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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-29 18:00:27 Reply

At 1/29/09 05:57 PM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote: Havent I told you multiple times to fork out for a keyboard instead of a mouse? As long as it isn't mechanical it's fine.

Don't need one.

I'm fine with my keys on my keyboard.

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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-29 18:20:12 Reply

So I've been thinking about building a new computer for awhile now. I've been in need for a new computer for a long time, especially when I consider that my current computer is almost eight years old. I've been looking at many different barebones kits and I think I came across a good one.

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Anyway, I was wondering if you guys thought this was a good kit or not. I plan on using this computer for gaming, internet and school work. I'm more than likely going to buy extra RAM for the system, seeing that there's two extra slots.


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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-29 18:46:40 Reply

At 1/29/09 06:20 PM, Deadly-Shadow wrote: So I've been thinking about building a new computer for awhile now. I've been in need for a new computer for a long time, especially when I consider that my current computer is almost eight years old. I've been looking at many different barebones kits and I think I came across a good one.

Time to help someone. Oh goodie!

It is better to just select the parts instead of getting a barebone kit, also those parts suck.

Motherboard: I'd get this. Gigabyte is an excellent brand, and that mobo is ace. Not to mention cheaper.

CPU: No. Seriously that CPU is not the way to go. Not because it's not a high end Intel quad, but because you can get a better CPU for a lower price. The AMD Athlon 7750 BE KUMA CORE. It is only 2.7 Ghz, but it is faster clock for clock (when they are at same speeds), and it's black edition, meaning it overclocks nicely. It can do 3.2 - 3.4 Ghz easily if you have a CPU cooler.

GPU: That card is pretty shite. Although it depends on your budget. Personally I'd get a 9800GTX+. Or you can add a bit more and get an ATi 4870 HD. Awesome bang for the buck.

Memory: I'd just get some 4GB RAM. I'd get Patriot RAM like
this. It's 1066 Mhz which is nice. Also 25 dollar rebate. You can also get G skill cause it's cheaper, but I'd still get Patriot cause it's awesome as phuq.

HDD: I guess it's okay, but honestly I'd get Western Digital. I have Seagate and it's sorta fucking up on me.

Case: This depends. You can get a standard case but you might have temperature problems with it. I have one of them and I have to keep my side panel off so it's not hot. I'd get an Antec 900. You will also need to get some case fans for it, but they are not expensive.

PSU: I recommend a trusted brand that won't shit on you. You don't need 600 W for that setup by the way, but if you will get a better GPU like I said, you might need 650 W even if you choose the 4870.
I won't suggest you anything yet because I don't know how much W you will need.

CPU fan: You definitely need a CPU fan. Stock will not keep it cool enough and you will have trouble with OCing. You should get the CPU fan I have. It's cheap as FUCK and does the job very nice. 25 dollars. Bam. http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.asp x?Item=N82E16835185125&Tpk=arctic%20cool er%20freezer%20pro%2064

Sorry if I missed anything and don't hesitate to ask for more help.

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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-29 18:48:24 Reply

At 1/29/09 05:22 PM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote: Alienshit....

Your computer isn't bad by any standards. The thing that disgusts me is that you probably paid around 5000 for that computer, when it didn't cost more than 2500 in it's shining day.

They make sleek cases though. Definitely salvage it for a future build if you plan on a new system soon.

it was actually my gf's first and then she gave it to me, and it plays games pretty nicely actually

but yeah, im definatly thinking about making a new computer, me and a couple of friends built a comp for one of my friends cause he was running on a 15 year old computer running on Win95,

anyone recommend me some parts to build a new comp, good ones but relativly cheap (i really dont wanna spend $2000+ on making a new comp)


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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-29 18:49:53 Reply

At 1/29/09 06:48 PM, JKMonkey wrote:
anyone recommend me some parts to build a new comp, good ones but relativly cheap (i really dont wanna spend $2000+ on making a new comp)

You need to state how good. You can get the parts I suggest above for a relatively cheap build that does well in games, or you can get an Intel Quad with a GTX 260 or even 280 which isn't that expensive but not cheap either.

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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-29 18:53:22 Reply

At 1/29/09 06:46 PM, TacoFreak wrote: Sorry if I missed anything and don't hesitate to ask for more help.

Thanks for the advice, I'll keep that in mind later on. I don't plan on building my PC untill I get a job, that way I can easily make back all the money I spend. As for the budget, I'm trying to stay under $800, but I'm willing to go over if I absolutly have to.


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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-29 19:02:26 Reply

At 1/29/09 05:54 PM, TacoFreak wrote:
Headset - 40 euro http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as px?Item=N82E16826265065

Scratch that, just gonna get the Sennheiser HD 201 g4me, cheaper and better sound quality. Doesn't come with a mic but I can always use my current headset for when I need to talk.

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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-29 19:33:57 Reply

At 1/29/09 06:49 PM, TacoFreak wrote:
You need to state how good. You can get the parts I suggest above for a relatively cheap build that does well in games, or you can get an Intel Quad with a GTX 260 or even 280 which isn't that expensive but not cheap either.

i want it to be good at playing games (like Spore, Empire: Total War, Left 4 Dead, etc.) but i also want it to have a lot of room on the hard drive (1 TB+)


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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-29 19:44:22 Reply

At 1/29/09 01:00 AM, PolishMatt wrote:
At 1/28/09 10:46 PM, crazysalt wrote: all in all i have allready ordered everything so i cant do anything about it now : ( but i mean for a 13 year old kid its a good build right, and no my dad is not doing all the shit for me nor is he paying for it he is just so interested that he MUST watch for some reason....go figure he's my dad.....
Hey man, that's cool, I was only wondering because your profile was saying a different age. The build is solid, sorry if I came off edgy, I'm like that sometimes.

no its no problem i can be like that also..... any way ya the processor came today but im kinda worried because the box arrived with a huge hole in the side, not like a clean hole like it was meant to be there but like a huge rip...... the thing looks fine but i just have to wait untill everything else arrives before i will know....

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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-29 20:06:24 Reply

At 1/29/09 06:53 PM, Deadly-Shadow wrote:
Thanks for the advice, I'll keep that in mind later on. I don't plan on building my PC untill I get a job, that way I can easily make back all the money I spend. As for the budget, I'm trying to stay under $800, but I'm willing to go over if I absolutly have to.

That's a good budget. It would help to know if it's going to be for work or play. And if a monitor is part of the price because that usually takes fair chunk of it, but for now I will assume it's just the station. The following is honestly the best damn build for type of work load and for under 800 quid. Excel tells me all of this is $794.92

CPU - Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200. - $169.99
GPU - EVGA GeForce 9800 GTX - 512MB. - $159.99
RAM - Kingston HyperX 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066. - 2 x $24.99
HHD - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM. - $119.99
PSU - COOLER MASTER Real Power Pro RS-650. - $109.99
MOBO - GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775. - $134.99
CASE - Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX. - $49.99

All the parts are pretty self-explanatory. And in case you want a monitor, here is a dirt cheap one that has amazing picture quality. 1920x1080 (Full HD) 22".

Monitor - ViewSonic VX2233wm Black. - $189.99

At 1/29/09 07:02 PM, TacoFreak wrote: Scratch that, just gonna get the Sennheiser HD 201 g4me, cheaper and better sound quality. Doesn't come with a mic but I can always use my current headset for when I need to talk.

If it's one thing I have learned in my life, it's that it helps not going cheap on headphones. I am not in anyway saying to spending a grand or even half a grand on headphones, but it would be my suggestion to get a pair for 100~200$. Yes, price for a little item but the value comes back when you don't have to shell out another 40$ again and again due to the last pair dying.

But of course, there are some exceptions to this, as I'm using mostly (I got others) Sony's MDR-V150s; the sound quality would be a 7/10 and durability a 4/5. It takes about 2 years for these things to have the plastic build to break, but the actual speakers inside never die... never - I mean like, I listen to music so loud that I should be def now.

Other News.

I want to get either a Steelseries - 7G or a DasKeyboard - Ultimate. I have an original IBM - M Model series keyboard from 1991 August 1st that I found in the trash, what a dumb person. The keyboard is 5 days older then me (Fucked up coquencidence) and it's the best keyboard I have ever used.

These keyboards replicate the same mechanical key stroke mechanism found in the original Model M keyboards which produce their signature two-click sound by every key stroke. I'm a touch typist and having no labels on the keys would make no difference to me and it would surely annoy anyone else who would use my computer.

They're pricey but I'm almost willing to pay that much for them. They even have two USB ports and use the old PS/2 connector which is better due to it producing no key-ghosting from any combination of keys.


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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-30 06:33:53 Reply

I'll be injecting my opinion into all this when I get home. An 800x600 resolution grouped with a dialup connection doesn't do good things for researching. In the meantime though, if anyone ever needs spare parts for a build, I have 2 lowly power supplys, a bunch of IDE DVD burners, and tons of other loose nuts and bolts. I'd be happy to send them over for a menial price plus shipping. Of course, intl shipping is ridiculous, but I'll do what I can do.

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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-30 13:52:05 Reply

Hmm... I'm interested.


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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-30 19:57:21 Reply

At 1/30/09 06:33 AM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote: I'll be injecting my opinion into all this when I get home. An 800x600 resolution grouped with a dialup connection doesn't do good things for researching.

do they still have dial-up? I thought they were going to do away with that

or am i thinking of something else?

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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-30 20:11:15 Reply

At 1/30/09 07:57 PM, JKMonkey wrote:
At 1/30/09 06:33 AM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote: I'll be injecting my opinion into all this when I get home. An 800x600 resolution grouped with a dialup connection doesn't do good things for researching.
do they still have dial-up? I thought they were going to do away with that

or am i thinking of something else?

You're thinking of analog cable, but that sure wasn't an ethernet cable connected to that computer.

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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-31 08:33:09 Reply

I feel like an idiot for asking such a simble question, but, how do you password protect a folder in Vista?

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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-31 09:04:27 Reply

At 1/31/09 08:33 AM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote: I feel like an idiot for asking such a simble question, but, how do you password protect a folder in Vista?

Here.

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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-31 11:03:37 Reply

At 1/31/09 09:04 AM, TacoFreak wrote:
At 1/31/09 08:33 AM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote: I feel like an idiot for asking such a simble question, but, how do you password protect a folder in Vista?
Here.

I'm not so pissed that you told me that, but more so that there's no way to do it without paying for 3rd party software.

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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-31 12:21:57 Reply

At 1/31/09 11:03 AM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote:
I'm not so pissed that you told me that, but more so that there's no way to do it without paying for 3rd party software.

Here.

Or downgrade to XP.

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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-01-31 22:34:58 Reply

Thinking of modding my case...

Not sure about it really. I was thinking about putting a 140 mm fan at the top for fun and maybe cooler temps, but some guy told me that I should take care of my cables first. I'm a complete noob so It's too complicated for me and I don't have a tool to make a hold for the fan or for the cables.

ffffffffffffffffffffffffff

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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-02-01 00:14:50 Reply

At 1/31/09 10:34 PM, TacoFreak wrote: ffffffffffffffffffffffffff

Then don't bother doing anything.


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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-02-01 00:22:43 Reply

At 2/1/09 12:14 AM, PolishMatt wrote:
At 1/31/09 10:34 PM, TacoFreak wrote: ffffffffffffffffffffffffff
Then don't bother doing anything.

Actually I can stuff the cables in the drives where the cd drives go for air flow.

Now all I need is a tool. Shouldn't be hard to get one, right?

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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-02-01 00:46:10 Reply

Zip ties my friend.

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Response to Computer Construction Crew 2009-02-01 00:57:20 Reply

At 2/1/09 12:22 AM, TacoFreak wrote: Actually I can stuff the cables in the drives where the cd drives go for air flow.

Just take the shelling off of your case like I do and leave all the components exposed.

Now all I need is a tool. Shouldn't be hard to get one, right?

Sure, if you don't mind spending a few hundreds on power tools just to do a job that won't help anyways.

An extra hole for a fan won't do much, you will be lucky to get a degree or two off of all your components.

At 2/1/09 12:46 AM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote: Zip ties my friend.

They're good and bad, they're are not suitable for every job.


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