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At 10/12/08 12:32 PM, Prinzy2 wrote: You've been calling the big band THEORY fact the whole time. Are you retarded as well?

Dude, scroll up the thread and check for yourself. I just said the big bang theory explained the movement of objects in space.

Nana nana boo boo, I don't have to. :P

oh come on :3

No, that's how science stays still. Science evolves by challenging theories over and over again until it's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.

What did I say? Do you even read my posts?

At 10/12/08 08:52 AM, Lost-Chances wrote:

At 10/12/08 08:42 AM, DasUberCow wrote: Plus the big bang has been scientifically proven

You want to know why they call it the Big Bang THEORY?

Lost-Chances announces his scientific illiteracy to the BBS shamelessly. Google 'just a theory' and 'evidence for the Big Bang' why dontcha

Theory doesn't mean 'guess' or 'hypothesis', it means 'explanation that coincides with the facts', 'the process most likely to be true'. Honest to God man.

There is plenty of evidence for the Big Bang, reams of the stuff.

It's not a matter of providing proof, it's a matter of providing enough evidence for disbelief to be foolish. Things like 'God', despite never being intended to be proven, do not even have any supporting evidence - all atheists want is evidence for God, of which there appears to be none. The more we look at the universe, the more natural it seems.

God made the big bang happen!

There now everyone is right, now quit it with these fucking topics!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_and_
fact

In science, a "fact" means "data", and "theory" means an explanation of that data. "Evolution" is a word used both for the data and for the explanation, so it is both a theory and a fact. Sometimes also, to confuse things, a well established theory is called a fact.

The facts are that EVERYTHING INDICATES the universe started in one particular central point and exploded outwards. Therefore, the theory is that everything started in one central point and exploded outwards.

I don't even see why religious people have an aversion to this. And this thread has made it PATENTLY obvious that a lot of you have no interest in the Big Bang, all you care is 'it's a theory so I'm not gonna believe in it,' you're blissfully unaware of the mountains of evidence that make such dismissal preposterously stupid and somewhat offensive. To yourself. You all let yourselves down, seriously.

At 10/12/08 12:53 PM, junkietomato wrote:

At 10/12/08 12:32 PM, Prinzy2 wrote: You've been calling the big band THEORY fact the whole time. Are you retarded as well?

Dude, scroll up the thread and check for yourself. I just said the big bang theory explained the movement of objects in space.

I'd say guilty by association is enough.

At 10/12/08 11:13 AM, junkietomato wrote:

At 10/12/08 08:47 AM, FRATBOYD wrote:

At 10/12/08 08:45 AM, Gabriel234 wrote:

At 10/12/08 08:44 AM, FRATBOYD wrote:

At 10/12/08 08:42 AM, DasUberCow wrote: Plus the big bang has been scientifically proven

Um, no it hasen't.

Yes it is.

No it ain't. You can't prove that the univers randomly exploeded into life.

Yes, yes you can. Every single object in the universe is moving thus making the universe to expand. What do you think that generated that movement? Damn, some people here are thick motherfuckers.

No, that's how science stays still. Science evolves by challenging theories over and over again until it's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.

What did I say? Do you even read my posts?

You're correct, I misread it, we pretty much said the same thing lol.

I'm writing more so that I can post this crap :P
WHY CANT I POST WHY CANT I POST JUST BECAUSE IT'S OVER 80%

At 10/12/08 01:04 PM, Prinzy2 wrote: WHY CANT I POST WHY CANT I POST JUST BECAUSE IT'S OVER 80%

Because it makes you look like a retard, when you can just remove must of the crap in the quote bit, Like i did...

At 10/12/08 01:02 PM, Shawn wrote: God made the big bang happen!

There now everyone is right, now quit it with these fucking topics!

No that logic cannot work because with the big bang theory the universe was always there. Religion and science cannot coexist perfectly no matter how hard you try.

At 10/12/08 01:02 PM, Shawn wrote: God made the big bang happen!

There now everyone is right, now quit it with these fucking topics!

If you beleive in God, then you must beleive he created the human race to be his slaves under dictatorship and will kill all humans who deny him that, despite what you think the mysterious ways and intentions are. If you piss him off once, you will go to hell for all eternity.

If you believe he made the big bang happen, then must beleive he is a liar as Adam and Eve could not have survived on Earth after being cast out the garden of Eden so soon.

Seriously, do you really want there to be a God?

At 10/12/08 01:04 PM, Prinzy2 wrote: You're correct, I misread it, we pretty much said the same thing lol.

I'm writing more so that I can post this crap :P
WHY CANT I POST WHY CANT I POST JUST BECAUSE IT'S OVER 80%

It's ok, lets forget about all this and laugh at the idiots.

cheers.

At 10/12/08 01:12 PM, Snake-Arsenic wrote: If you believe he made the big bang happen, then must beleive he is a liar as Adam and Eve could not have survived on Earth after being cast out the garden of Eden so soon.

I hope you realize there are over a thousand religions and not every religion believes in Adam and Eve

At 10/12/08 01:10 PM, aninjaman wrote:

At 10/12/08 01:02 PM, Shawn wrote: God made the big bang happen!

There now everyone is right, now quit it with these fucking topics!

No that logic cannot work because with the big bang theory the universe was always there. Religion and science cannot coexist perfectly no matter how hard you try.

These guys make the dichotomy really easy by opposing science when it disagrees with religion.

A lot of people don't allow them to oppose each other, believing in some deist God who still did the whole Jesus thing, but here they seem to revel in the opposition. "I'm religious so science must be wrong."

http://www.freethoughtpedia.com/images/S cience_verses_faith_flowcharts.jpg

At 10/12/08 01:17 PM, Shawn wrote:

At 10/12/08 01:12 PM, Snake-Arsenic wrote: If you believe he made the big bang happen, then must beleive he is a liar as Adam and Eve could not have survived on Earth after being cast out the garden of Eden so soon.

I hope you realize there are over a thousand religions and not every religion believes in Adam and Eve

Of course, but that particular one seems to pop up a lot on these forums so it seemed relevant at the time.

It all really comes down to this. Science cannot explain everything because the universe is fucking complicated, and science comes from our limited ability to understand and observe things. However, the evidence that science has given us massively outweighs the evidence that religion has given us. No, theories are not 'proven'. However, they have had hundreds of very intelligent scientists studying them for decades, as opposed to the ONE AND ONLY semblance of theory that religions have, their holy book and whatever predictions that it managed to get right.

At 12/24/08 09:39 AM, blarg0 wrote: i am an atheist, and i believe in the most likely scientific theory

Well, that's good for you.

Can anyone tell me if the Big Bang is scientific fact? It seems like it is.

The Big Bang Theory hasn't been proven, just backed somewhat with modern technology and science. Religious beliefs shouldn't be thrown out the door yet, though.

(I am not religious so do not flame me for this post, plz)

What we believe is that when big bang was created, big masses of energy were released and that caused the fusion of different atoms and molecules, which formed water and planets, but the different clashes from different energy sources (could be movement, wind, water, atoms, electricity, etc) formed the first living being which reproduced by bipartition, then they kept to evolve until reptiles were formed, then they kept evolving until they evolved to mammals, the rest is proved to be the neanderthal (sorry for bad spelling, I'm from South America, lol) theory.

At 10/12/08 08:42 AM, Lost-Chances wrote:

At 10/12/08 08:41 AM, Carbogen wrote: Do most atheists believe that the universe which was created from a big bang, caused life, planets, stars, etc to happen by complete chance?

Yes. They do believe that.

Then atheists never took physics.

Like there are no chances in a closed system.

Which, as far as we know, is what the universe is.

Explosion = suspended patterned results.

At 10/12/08 08:43 AM, Carbogen wrote:

At 10/12/08 08:42 AM, mwmike wrote: I'd guess that different atheists would believe different things.

Why do you think Atheism is popular among teens?

Because they MASTURBATE

At 10/12/08 08:42 AM, DasUberCow wrote: Yes. Sure it doesnt makes any sense but it makes a lot more sense than some superhuman being made the earth in 6 fucking days! Plus the big bang has been scientifically proven so dont see that were just making it up.

Not at all. And God didn't necessarily take only six days. In one verse, (can't remember exactly which) someone asks him how long forever is to him and he says a second. Time doesn't apply to God, so you can't use that argument.

Although he totally could have done it in six. ;)

sorry if this is a double post..
I know no one is going to accept this, but to me this is proof that God exists. When I was in fourth grade, my Dad was in a brutal car accident. He broke all of his ribs, both arms and legs, had a concussion, and had many other injuries. He was in a coma for five days, and everyone was certain he was going to die. Then he randomly just woke up. His bones were completely healed. He also has no lasting damage at all. No one can even explain how his 34 bones that were broken were healed completely in less than a week. Before that, I had doubts about God. I wasn't a full blown atheist, but I had trouble explaining exactly why I was a christian, other than my family was. Now I have absolutely no doubt at all. There have been alot of things that have no explanation other than God in my life.

At 12/24/08 12:01 PM, GoldenBrownTickle wrote: He broke all of his ribs, both arms and legs, had a concussion, and had many other injuries. He was in a coma for five days, and everyone was certain he was going to die. Then he randomly just woke up. His bones were completely healed. He also has no lasting damage at all. No one can even explain how his 34 bones that were broken were healed completely in less than a week. Before that, I had doubts about God.

Yes, because you have proof that it happened, and it just HAD to be god, because there is nothing other than an invisible man that can heal bones.

What I hate are the atheists that are anti-religion. I don't care if you don't want to worship a higher power, but if you dare try to attack and knock down a religious people, then that makes you look like an asshole.

At 12/24/08 12:04 PM, Digital-Terror wrote: Yes, because you have proof that it happened, and it just HAD to be god, because there is nothing other than an invisible man that can heal bones.

Alright then, explain his miraculous healing with science. Go ahead, show me the striking medical truth.

Sorry for double post...

At 12/24/08 12:04 PM, firemaker60 wrote: What I hate are the atheists that are anti-religion. I don't care if you don't want to worship a higher power, but if you dare try to attack and knock down a religious people, then that makes you look like an asshole.

Religion is fucking dumb and every agnostic, deist, theist, pantheist, panentheist, and atheist recognises this. Seriously man, it's fucking dumb and everyone who believes in it is smarter than that. If God exists, he doesn't care about some primates in the desert of some tiny planet in some tiny corner of some tiny galaxy; there is no way we were even a major concern when the universe was being 'made'. And every moral that religion has and that humanism doesn't have is a fucking shit moral, probably about what you're allowed to do with your genitals or how you're allowed to wear your facial hair.

Or god can't think because he's energy.

He's thinking in this thread.

Because technically we are all a part of him.

How about that.

Mind fuck.

Because if god is everywhere then he has to be EVERYTHING. That's what I think. It's just a ridiculous way of saying "we are all together in this universe as matter and we have to look out for our own existence as this giant whole."

something like that.

Do most religious people believe the universe was created by some magical man in the sky just because he wanted to?

At 12/24/08 12:53 PM, XxTheWorldIsYoursxX wrote: Do most religious people believe the universe was created by some magical man in the sky just because he wanted to?

Well, that's the thing. We don't know why the universe came into being. However, if we believe in a God, we know that at least God knows.

well i think some do, but its not a specific "religion". so many atheists believe different things.

At 12/25/08 11:14 AM, Ericho wrote:

At 12/24/08 12:53 PM, XxTheWorldIsYoursxX wrote: Do most religious people believe the universe was created by some magical man in the sky just because he wanted to?

Well, that's the thing. We don't know why the universe came into being. However, if we believe in a God, we know that at least God knows.

why is the Bible right