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Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 04:34:52 Reply

http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/?las t_story=/mwt/broadsheet/2008/10/11/child _porn/

After Licking Valley High School officials discovered the photos on the girl's phone and tipped off police last Friday, she was arrested, held in jail over the weekend and charged with possession of criminal tools and illegal use of a minor in nudity-oriented material, ABC reports. If convicted, she could spend several years in juvenile detention and be forced to register as a sex offender for the next 20 years of her life (although, since she is a first-time offender and a minor, the judge could decide against making her register).

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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 04:38:07 Reply

At 10/11/08 04:34 AM, Pounce wrote: After Licking Valley High School officials..

hehehehe

And about the article... pretty fucking ridiculous.


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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 04:38:09 Reply

Good! Sex Is Bad And Its Bad For Teens Her Age To Know About Sex. Sin = Under Age Sex not Sex = Not sin. Heaven Is Hard To Please.

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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 04:38:35 Reply

What? Pfft, Land of the Free my ass. How can one abuse themself? This is simply an outrage to everything America stands for!


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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 04:39:41 Reply

Forgot to inject my opinion into this..

She wasn't exploited, abused, persuaded, blackmailed, brainwashed, or in any way against her will forced to take these.

The government's obligation to stop illegal pornography should end at whether or not the person can obviously make their own choice or not.

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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 04:41:19 Reply

At 10/11/08 04:38 AM, RobotTaco wrote: What? Pfft, Land of the Free my ass. How can one abuse themself? This is simply an outrage to everything America stands for!

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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 04:44:49 Reply

Sure, she should be allowed to take pornography of herself, if it can be proven to be "artistic". Any competent lawyer could say that. Now distributing child pornography on the other hand, is what I think this case is mostly about. If you are distributing child porn, whether it be a relative, a kid you abducted, or yourself, the end result is still more child pornography circulating. Also, free will has been illegal ever sense the first man was killed for going on a mass-murder.


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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 04:48:01 Reply

Wow, this country is going down the drain.

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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 04:48:46 Reply

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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 04:57:25 Reply

At 10/11/08 04:38 AM, STMX wrote: Good! Sex Is Bad And Its Bad For Teens Her Age To Know About Sex. Sin = Under Age Sex not Sex = Not sin. Heaven Is Hard To Please.

That's why I am an Atheist, no one to answer to and please.

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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 04:58:19 Reply

At 10/11/08 04:57 AM, KSIxHellboy wrote:
At 10/11/08 04:38 AM, STMX wrote: Good! Sex Is Bad And Its Bad For Teens Her Age To Know About Sex. Sin = Under Age Sex not Sex = Not sin. Heaven Is Hard To Please.
That's why I am an Atheist, no one to answer to and please.

besides cops, and teachers... and your parents... etc.


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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 05:01:26 Reply

At 10/11/08 04:57 AM, KSIxHellboy wrote:
At 10/11/08 04:38 AM, STMX wrote: Good! Sex Is Bad And Its Bad For Teens Her Age To Know About Sex. Sin = Under Age Sex not Sex = Not sin. Heaven Is Hard To Please.
That's why I am an Atheist, no one to answer to and please.

Hence your name is KSixHellboy, to show that you are so cool, that even if you are wrong, you won't care you are in hell. People like you are the reason I became Giygasian, because at least I won't have to deal with the horrible reputation people like you give Atheists.

On topic- How many people actually read the article as opposed to the amount of people that just agreed with the TC for that +1 post?


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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 05:10:45 Reply

Thats an interesting case.....but I cant agree with the OP with the whole "Free Will is now Illegal". Id prefer it if underage girls didnt start sending photos of their cunts around. They are just asking to be exploited.

The more important headline however has to be
Hillary Duff doesn't think you're totally gay!
I was relieved to here that one.


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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 06:55:56 Reply

Hillary Duff doesn't think you're totally gay.
So you're 16 years old, with a little time and baby-sitting money to burn. And so you head with your bestie to Forever 21 - or, I dunno, Dolce & Gabbana, because you live in Los Angeles - to try on the hot new fall collection. Your bestie slips into a shimmery rose top you do not like. "It's totally gay," you say to her. (You always talk like this.) She laughs, knowingly, but then who should walk by at just that moment? Hillary Freaking Duff.
Heh, that was more of an interesting read.

Back on topic, I think this is an outrage as well.
I mean, as a human, we should be able to do anything we wish to ourselves.
It's our body, not the governments. What right do they have controlling what we do to ourselves?
None.


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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 07:01:25 Reply

At 10/11/08 06:55 AM, ClickToPlay wrote: Back on topic, I think this is an outrage as well.
I mean, as a human, we should be able to do anything we wish to ourselves.

Yes. I we want to put a knife in our hands, and vicously stab the neighbors to death, the government should not get involved. I feel that my body can put whatever it wants on itself and do what it will.

It's our body, not the governments. What right do they have controlling what we do to ourselves?

Yes, if I want to strap a bomb on MY body, I have every right to do that.

None.

Now watch my over-exagerations tie seemlessly back into the topic. You see, the point isn't that she is acting like a whore, but she is destributing child pornography. It doesn't matter if it is your or not, it is still illegal.


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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 07:04:02 Reply

Like others have said...

ridiculous.
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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 07:19:27 Reply

If this is happening, shouldn't miley cyrus be facing some pretty big charges?

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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 07:25:28 Reply

This is like saying...

The government has no right to find you guilty of killing someone.

She's distributing child pornography. Doesn't matter that she meant to do it.

You don't just jail someone as revenge for killing someone. You jail them to prevent them from causing harm to others.


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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 07:28:43 Reply

At 10/11/08 07:25 AM, Bacchanalian wrote: Doesn't matter that she meant to do it.

Omit this part. I was rambling.


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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 08:00:35 Reply

lol@America.


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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 08:46:59 Reply

OMG...not our free will...


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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 08:47:24 Reply

At 10/11/08 04:38 AM, STMX wrote: Good! Sex Is Bad And Its Bad For Teens Her Age To Know About Sex. Sin = Under Age Sex not Sex = Not sin. Heaven Is Hard To Please.

Fuck off troll.

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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 08:54:33 Reply

At 10/11/08 07:25 AM, Bacchanalian wrote: You don't just jail someone as revenge for killing someone. You jail them to prevent them from causing harm to others.

So who did she harm? I bet her classmates were traumatized beyond imagination after seeing nude pics of a girl.


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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 08:55:22 Reply

At 10/11/08 04:57 AM, KSIxHellboy wrote:
At 10/11/08 04:38 AM, STMX wrote: Good! Sex Is Bad And Its Bad For Teens Her Age To Know About Sex. Sin = Under Age Sex not Sex = Not sin. Heaven Is Hard To Please.
That's why I am an Atheist, no one to answer to and please.

Oh look, yet another mindless shock troop of social atheism. Seriously, Just because you're atheist doesnt mean you should outright reject any religious knowledge. We do have to please people, even though there isnt a God, Devil, Heaven or Hell, doesnt mean we can just blow off our friends, neighbors, and other people whom we associate with, a belief expressed by most religions.


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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 08:55:40 Reply

At 10/11/08 07:01 AM, Another-User wrote:
Yes. I we want to put a knife in our hands, and vicously stab the neighbors to death, the government should not get involved. I feel that my body can put whatever it wants on itself and do what it will.

You're a fucking idiot. I just we should be able to do anything we want to ourselves.. Don't be a smartass.

Yes, if I want to strap a bomb on MY body, I have every right to do that.

As long as you're not harming anyone. Go right ahead.

Now watch my over-exagerations tie seemlessly back into the topic. You see, the point isn't that she is acting like a whore, but she is destributing child pornography. It doesn't matter if it is your or not, it is still illegal.

Where did it say she was distrubing child pornopraphy? If I read it correctly, all it said was that she had pictures of her self on her mobile. As long as she doesn't distribute, then it's all good.

Dumbass.


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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 09:12:33 Reply

At 10/11/08 08:00 AM, flashplayer5 wrote: lol@America.

Yeah what a shit country!


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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 09:15:40 Reply

I say that this is stupid. But in all reality, she brought this on herself. She was being slutty for distributing pictures of herself. And there is a loophole in the sex laws that allow for one to "abuse" themselves, and this is an example of that loophole. She shouldn't go to jail or have to register, but that was a seriously stupid move on her part.

Now for the question of the hour: Was that girl agustana? This sounds like something she would do...

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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 09:17:59 Reply

"Child porn is now illegal"

I fixed your title for you, Pounce

Seriously. This is nothing to be outraged about


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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 09:18:47 Reply

At 10/11/08 07:01 AM, Another-User wrote:
Now watch my over-exagerations tie seemlessly back into the topic. You see, the point isn't that she is acting like a whore, but she is destributing child pornography. It doesn't matter if it is your or not, it is still illegal.

I admit, I was mistaken there.
She does deserve to be convicted for distributing underage pornography.

Still doesn't mean I go against my views above, though.


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Response to Free will is now illegal 2008-10-11 09:19:12 Reply

At 10/11/08 08:54 AM, Catoblepas wrote:
At 10/11/08 07:25 AM, Bacchanalian wrote: You don't just jail someone as revenge for killing someone. You jail them to prevent them from causing harm to others.
So who did she harm? I bet her classmates were traumatized beyond imagination after seeing nude pics of a girl.

1. The government can't and shouldn't control everything, but just because the government hasn't stopped these kids from seeing nude girls on other occasions, doesn't mean the government shouldn't act on an instance in which it justifiably by law can.

2. Just because people aren't bothered by a thing, does not mean they're not being harmed. Oh I know, how horribly elitist to presume one would know what's better for another.

3. It's also illegal for people under the age of 18 to view pornography, so she's encouraging/enabling further illegal activity.


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