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L4D got promised content seeing the games content at release was shallow. in the sense of the idea that TF2 was getting loads of content, we hoped to see more than one gameplay mode and more then two new versus campaigns (and with that, i only recall one new map being added, that being lighthouse).

you know what bugs me? valve sold us a game that wore the full price tag, whilst running on the source engine AND having little content. it's like they took out the idea's for L4D content and pumped it into their sequel (L4D2).

there's NOTHING fair in that at all, we got promised content, and now it seems that all the new weapons, gamemodes, special infected and other trivial content we craved for is getting into yet ANOTHER game we have to purchase AGAIN. valve, is this a middle finger to the L4D players? it certainly feels like it.

i mean, it's not even a L4D game to me, where are our four cherished survivors? why do we get four, pathetic stereotypes in exchange? i don't want to play as some ugly, black bald guy with street smarts. i want to play as an ugly, hairy white guy that hates everything. what have you done to the L4D legacy, valve?

L4D2 has great content, but it should've been in L4D.

it's like they had TF2, but instead of updating it, they stored up all the class weapons and achievements and gamemodes, and put it into a new game called TF3. oh, and all the classes are exchanged with new characters nobody cherishes.

they killed the charisma l4d had. what about the personalities we learned to love in l4d? they're gone, they get replaced with characters i don't want (and with that, probably a majority doesn't want to play with them either). what's up with flaming bullets? what's next? critical hits? weapons with different levels and stats? dungeon raids?

they made l4d2 more goofy, zombies wearing buckets? why? why have zombies that are immune to one weapon? does valve really want to make a fast-paced zombie shooter but with trivial situations where you need to change to different guns to kill it's corresponding enemy victim? this isn't l4d, this is just another zombie game. the only similar part it has with L4D is it's name, the engine and probably 90% of the content.

VIDEO: Interview With Chet [June4th]

Discusses alot about where they are going with L4D2, and what they will be doing with L4D.

More Updates Soon :]

At 6/4/09 01:44 PM, DarkSytze wrote: L4D2 has great content, but it should've been in L4D.

This. If they took the same approach to it like with updating TF2, and held a couple more free weekends, and half price weekends each time it got updated, they would get a hell of a lot more sales (my opinion). I don't think ill be buying the second one.

At 6/4/09 08:20 PM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote:

At 6/4/09 01:44 PM, DarkSytze wrote: L4D2 has great content, but it should've been in L4D.

This. If they took the same approach to it like with updating TF2, and held a couple more free weekends, and half price weekends each time it got updated, they would get a hell of a lot more sales (my opinion). I don't think ill be buying the second one.

me neither. i've played L4D for nearly thousand hours (mostly versus in scrims) and i think it's a dick move to not update L4D and instead spend their time learning what L4D needs and put THOSE craved needs into a sequel.

When Interviewed even Gabe was surprised and said what Chet did was not really going along well with what they usually do as a company and stuff.

5 Mins of NEW Gameplay [June5th]

Lots of new gameplay

CONFIRMED, Bots now throw pipebombs and molotovs!!

Parking lot FULL of Alarm rigged cars.

Section of the gameplay video shows only ONE person playing, with no AI bots, could this be the new mode?

More Updates to come :)

At 6/5/09 11:57 PM, PaperBat wrote: 5 Mins of NEW Gameplay [June5th]

Lots of new gameplay

Ive seen most of it already, but thanks!

CONFIRMED, Bots now throw pipebombs and molotovs!!

Meh.... Depends if they're retarded with them.

Parking lot FULL of Alarm rigged cars.

Sounds fun.

Section of the gameplay video shows only ONE person playing, with no AI bots, could this be the new mode?

Maybe it was just for testing purposes?

Why the hell is there guy named Coach? Who the fuck would name their kid Coach? I know its because he is a Coach, but I thinks its pretty retarded he doesn't, you know, have a name? I am never going to play as him because of his fat body.

At 6/6/09 11:54 AM, ironraven24 wrote: Why the hell is there guy named Coach? Who the fuck would name their kid Coach? I know its because he is a Coach, but I thinks its pretty retarded he doesn't, you know, have a name? I am never going to play as him because of his fat body.

What the hell does his fatness have to do with ANYTHING? Its not like its gunna hinder the gameplay at all, all characters play the same way, did you see louis running any faster then bill, zoey, or francis??

Why do you guys nitpick at every little thing? lol.

At 6/6/09 01:42 PM, PaperBat wrote: Why do you guys nitpick at every little thing? lol.

i didn't play as bill when i had the choice because i didn't like him. he was a smoking, old bitter greasy dick. suck it up.

At 6/6/09 01:42 PM, PaperBat wrote:
What the hell does his fatness have to do with ANYTHING? Its not like its gunna hinder the gameplay at all, all characters play the same way, did you see louis running any faster then bill, zoey, or francis??

Well, he is wider, I was also kinda kidding.

More NEW Gameplay [7 Mins Long]

Even MORE New Gameplay [3 Mins 30 Secs]

Smart AI Gameplay [6 Mins Long]

Looks like the AI bots are wayyyy smarter this time around, they dont wait for you to progress through the level to some extent. They now know what they are doing, and sometimes lead the way. They also use projectile items like Pipe bombs and Molotovs.

More updates soon (n_n)

Sorry for double post mods, screenshot of the loading screen.

Anyone else notice when Bill says "Reloading" it sounds like "Bill-oading".

It's a running joke among my friends now, we now say Bill-oading instead of Reloading when playing Left 4 Dead, we also say Boomer in a really camp voice.

At 6/7/09 06:30 PM, PaperBat wrote: Looks like the AI bots are wayyyy smarter this time around, they dont wait for you to progress through the level to some extent. They now know what they are doing, and sometimes lead the way. They also use projectile items like Pipe bombs and Molotovs.

That's good to hear. The bots in L4D are just ridiculously silly sometimes.

At 6/9/09 01:05 PM, milinko959 wrote: That's good to hear. The bots in L4D are just ridiculously silly sometimes.

Last night a smoker yanked me off the edge in Dead Air, near the crane. So Francis and Bill came running and both fell off too. Then Louie pulled Francis up and then fell off himself. Then Francis pulled Bill up and fell off. Then Bill pulled me up and then fell off, and then I got pounced by a hunter.

Annoying, but I'll be damned if it wasn't funny.

Hey guys, look what I found.

Addons patch is up.

Wanted to check it out, but I had to look at the news...

At 10/5/08 02:09 PM, CH4ZM4N92 wrote: dude ive been wanting to play this since b4 George got out of the project

George Romero never was involved.

L4D news:

4 new infected for L4D2 (charger uncluded)

Valve working on Crossplay option between L4D1 and L4D2

Also maps made for L4D1 will work on L4D2 with minor changes needed.

The demo will be available on preorder like with L4D1.

At 7/8/09 05:32 PM, VenomKing666 wrote: The demo will be available on preorder like with L4D1.

No clue what your talking about there, L4D2 has been up for preorder here since june, already preordered my copy, lol.

Anyway, I found some shit you guys may like.

Full "The Parish" Finale Walkthrough [7mins]
I'm suprized this is out so early, a full video walkthrough of the finale for the campaign "The Parish". Looks Badass

NEW MELEE WEAPON
Yup, A Cricket Bat, though this news wasen't that intriguing to me, atleast it reveals 1 more of the 20 new weapons in the game, right? :)

More Updates When I find em :)

At 6/4/09 01:28 PM, ironraven24 wrote:

At 6/4/09 11:35 AM, PaperBat wrote:

At 6/4/09 09:28 AM, HeavyTank wrote: So now they're gonna release L4D 2 and this game will die?
Grrrrrrreat!

NO, Gosh, why dont you READ my long ass posts???

They are still going to continue to update L4D

Which is pointless, because L4D is going to die. Everyone is gonna bitch that this should be an update, then they're gonna buy the game, then no one plays the first one.

Sorry for Double Post, felt like going on a little rant here.

L4D and L4D2, are differant games, it takes nothing more then common sense to notice this, yet it still seems to slip 90% of peoples minds. You think that when L4D2 comes out, L4D will become obsolete. This is extremly flawed logic. Look at Call of Duty 4, and Call of Duty: World At War, they are 2, or 3 years apart, and they both still have their own thriving communitys, yet they are such similar games. Gears Of War, and Gears Of War 2, again, extremly similar games, yet they both still have their own community of gamers.

Now the funny thing is, though these great sequels still have their own games, they are coming out with hardly any new content. Left 4 Dead, on the other hand, still has a SHITLOAD of new content coming out, and this is coming directly from VALVe.

Alot of you guys are jumping straight to conclusions. Have you ever maybe considered giving VALVe a chance, cut them some slack.

I think all this free content they have giving us so far has spoilt you guys. Your acting like those snotty little rich kids, who want it their way, or no way at all.

Second Campaign will be "Swamp Fever".

After debuting "The Parish" campaign (set in the New Orleans' French Quarter) at E3, the Comic Con showing will unveil "Swamp Fever", the second of the five campaigns shipping with L4D2 this fall. The game will be playable in the EA Gaming Lounge Presented by Xbox 360 from 2-9 pm Thursday-Saturday, and 12-5 pm on Sunday. The EA Gaming Lounge will be located in the Hilton San Diego Gaslamp Quarter Hotel, 401 K. Street.

NEW BOXART
alright yea, its pretty much the same as the old, but alot more yellow, I kinda like it, looks smooth

At 7/11/09 07:08 AM, PaperBat wrote: I think all this free content they have giving us so far has spoilt you guys.

What have they given us for free as an update since its been out, i got it just a few months ago, and the only thing i noticed is custom maps/campaigns. And even then thats community based free stuff. Maybe if we were talking TF2, then you could say stop bitching, because THAT is what you call updates/free content.

At 7/12/09 02:57 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote:

At 7/11/09 07:08 AM, PaperBat wrote: I think all this free content they have giving us so far has spoilt you guys.

What have they given us for free as an update since its been out, i got it just a few months ago, and the only thing i noticed is custom maps/campaigns. And even then thats community based free stuff. Maybe if we were talking TF2, then you could say stop bitching, because THAT is what you call updates/free content.

Now that im unbanned from posting, I can reply.

Yes, I was talking about the free updates from VALVe in general, I dont think such a quick sequel from any other company would have gotten such a bad responce, and its solely because of how much free content they have given you guys in the past, look at all the Madden games, every year, 1 more comes out, and the SMALLEST things are changed.

At 7/17/09 02:24 AM, Fyndir wrote:

At 6/4/09 01:44 PM, DarkSytze wrote: L4D got promised content

[citation needed]

Seriously, out of maybe 5 times I've asked for proof in the VG forums I've been offered some twice, and both times there was no promise of anything, just people taking speculation as some cast iron promise which it was clearly not intended to be.

So hey, you guys are in C&C, you must be more intelligent than the VG lads, right?

Prove me wrong, show me where Valve promised you free content, show me where Valve have broken a promise.

Finally another newgrounder who isn't completly braindead about this subject.

VALVe never promised anything,

At 7/17/09 05:07 AM, PaperBat wrote: VALVe never promised anything,

3rd Paragraph/2 lines there. They said they're gonna release more for the PC and 360 right?

I mean sure, its not a promise, but why say that and hardly give any updates at all?

At 7/17/09 03:38 PM, Fyndir wrote: I feel reasonably confident, at this juncture, in concluding that there was never a promise of content from Valve, and the entire situation has come from people reading more into an innocent statement than was ever intended by the person who said it.

That may be true, and i see the way you've come to your conclusion, but i thought myself when they said updates, we would get more gameplay rather then Source SDK 'oh look you can make your own stuff now rather then play the game' sort of things.

Blagh.

At 7/17/09 10:23 PM, Fyndir wrote: Throw in the extra campaigns made by other people who enjoy doing that kind of thing and you have potentially limitless amounts of extra gameplay beyond what was originally shipped.

Thats true. But when you see the huge updates that they've given TF2, wouldn't you expect the same when you hear 'update'? A few of us had doubts we would get the game updated as frequently as TF2, so im not really bothered by it, im just pissed that they announced L4D2 not long after the first one.

At 7/18/09 01:58 AM, Fyndir wrote: evil cuntrockets

Win.

Sounds to me like we're getting a bargain.

If you're talking about L4D2, that may be so, if you didn't already buy L4D and then hear that the second one is gonna be out soon enough.

Anyone here have the 360 version of left 4 dead? I was just gonna do death toll on expert only one im missing on expert. If anyone wants to join in pm me or respond to me here.