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Something I mentioned in other thread...

If you review a submission, and it's later edited by the author, it would be great if you could edit your review as well. So your review is up to date with the submission :)

Also, 2 little things that should be fixed:

1. On the flash portal, scroll all the way down. Next to the "NG Alphas", theres a "?" which has a link that just leads to the top of the page.
2. When you're reading someone's post, under the level icon you see his/her level. If you click on the level, it will take you to the FAQ, but instead of taking you to the part about the levels, it takes you to the part about the B/P rank. In other words, the link leads to http://www.newgrounds.com/lit/faq/#upa_r ank instead of http://www.newgrounds.com/lit/faq#upa_le vel

Cheers :)

2 suggestions....

Audio Trophies

They deserve trophies to... (such as a weekly trophy or something of the sort)

Shades Of Newgrounds

I loved how the interfaced changed during the winter. Everyone knows how the colors of NG is shades of Orange. Well since this website is composed alot of greyish and orange... I thought it would be neat if it was possible to change the color or newgrounds (orange) to however a user specified. So it would be more controllable for the user. This feature would easily bring alot more people to newgrounds.

Okay, so I should have posted here. My apologies, I thought had this kind of a post existed it would have been a sticky - and looked no further. I'll repeat myself here, should a moderator rightly decide to delete my thread:

Suggestions for Review archiving:

Here's the context I am writing this in:
- I put a great deal of care and effort in my reviews.
- I think reviews are much more important than scores for in them you see genuine reactions, and advice for improvement.
- I will often read the Reviews section on an Artist's page, as you get a good sense of who they are.

1. Review deletion
Recently I happened to notice that one of my comments had been deleted (which I have no intention of complaining about even though I am 99% certain it wasn't abusive or any of the usual causes) but without knowing which one and why, how will I avoid making the same mistake in the future?

Is there a place in my account that notifies me of a review deletion? Or somewhere I can find out why?

2. Reviewing Blammed Entries
I know that reviews belonging to Blammed Entries are kept in archives somewhere, as I love reading through them - but I have also noticed that the reviews disappear off the reviewer's page and are only accessible via the Obituary page.

I wish they weren't, as they are usually the funniest, or the ones with the best advice for improvement. Surely it could just link to the Eulogy page?

I know that some of the reviews now buried deep in the Obituary Archive, and near impossible to rediscover, are some of the reviews I'm most proud of.

3. Useless/Helpful
Is there a way of finding out a person's 'batting average'? You know:
19% Helpful
72% Neutral
9% Useless... or whatever

Having that on a person's page might give people a little more incentive to try and be helpful, without handing out experience for it (which seems to have been decided as a bad idea)

Topic Link for Submissions

Some flash/audio submissions are based off topics on the BBS and you can't link to the topic properly in the description. So how about an additional feild on the submission page which allows the option of putting the topic ID into it. The link then shows on the submission information.

This is a copy of a post that I probably made in teh wrong section of the site but i'll repost it nevetheless. I don't know if you guys hang around the audio portal, I know its less popular but there are quite a few problems there and I checked the previous posts and quite a few users seems to think so too.

First of all, most of the poor material stays. I never saw the judgment system actually work. It seems like everyone submit horrible stuff and gets away with it. Mary had a little lamb, recorded with headphones by someone who can't sing is just an example... Stuff worst than 5year old stick battles gets approved and stay.

It make 3 problems.
1- Newgrounds lose space... that's not too bad, since I don't pay for anything here
2- Flash artist have to go through a lot of weak materiel to find good stuff that they can actually use for flash submissions.
3- Some excellent audio artists get lost in the mass of horrible ones and cannot get their stuff heard and known, get comments, grow and improve.

I'd also like to add that there is no way to blow the whistle on anything on the audio side and thats exceptionnaly bad. There are at least 2-3 hate songs that get approved each day. I think we have to start taking action. Users are generally good at that and I think it should be implemented, like the flash side before Newgrounds becomes a hate song propaganda heaven.

I think its important for the site to let us help sorting the great from the sad stuff that gets dumped there. Newgrounds is for us by us. Lets allow ourselves to keep the audio community as good and clean as the flash side and help it grow.

Thats why i think we need the same moderation system for the Audio that works on the flash side

Flash Review Suggestion:

I find that reviews for flash on NG are useless at best. You're lucky to get an intelligent thought out of the random 2-3 reviews that can be seen on the flash's page, and when you check the 20+ pages of reviews, you search for a decent review like finding an oasis in the desert.

My suggestion is to replace the "Is this review helpful?" which is pointless. All it provides is the info that people like this review or don't. This is very basic and doesn't help the viewer at all. Instead, I propose we base reviews on Yahoo Answers:

Yahoo Answers is a sort of community, where anyone can ask a question, and get several responses from other users. What makes this different from anyone else? The selected "best" answer (the one thought of as most useful) is automatically brought to the top, while the rest lurk at the bottom. This not only promotes people to TRY and put thought into their reply, but it helps the viewer sort out the good from the bad.

The only thing that should be different is that instead of just ONE reply going to the top, it should be those that are ranked the highest, on some sort of scale (Yes/No, 5 Stars, 1-10, etc) and they should go in descending order. The only problem with this is much like the Audio Portal, in that there will be a period of time when there is only a few votes, and the ranking will be "5/5!" for the review, when really only 2 people voted on it. After time, when hundreds more visit the page and see this on the top of all reviews, it will get more attention, votes, and be given its accurate portrayal of helpfulness.

TL;DR: Review the reviews with a new grading system, causing the higher ranked reviews to go to the front of the page.

Yahoo Answers Homepage (Check it out)
Good example of it's usefulness and how it works

Hopefully my paint-attempted visual for this is clear, if not I'll try again. But it's not meant to be pretty, just to get the idea across.

tehpistolshrimp NEUTRAL LEVEL 05

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I've Got it! A URL flagger! Basically, Blocks every url that opens maliciious pop-ups! or screamers and lemonparty! wow. This is a good idea.

At 9/25/08 03:48 AM, BetaOrionis wrote: Only award B/P points if the user's vote comes within 1.5 of the average. This should discourage voting 0 and 5 to undeserving submissions, and forces the average user to think more carefully about submissions before voting. The current system only forces users to evaluate whether or not the submission will pass, and doesn't require a decent evaluation.

I know discussion isn't encouraged, but I just gotta say that is a fucking awesome idea

Also I agree that cross-through tags would be cool for blogs. And a better BBS forum search bar. It doesn't really recognize more than one word, nor does it recognize hyphens

Also more aura colors plz, I like purple :3

I've been noticing recently the lack of a feature which would actually be pretty usefull and reasonably simple to implement

Its an online now feature, which would appear under a Users Picture on his/her profile to indicate if a user is signed in or not

good idea?

Changing the Blam/Save sistem would be good, I had an idea for it:

Until the movie goes through Judgement, there's only a two options voting sistem, which can only be used by 'Grounds Gold users over level 5 (I know it would be unfair for some people, but that way it'd be better for stopping crews) and every vote is worth the same.
After the movie goes through judgement, there should be a checkpoint based sistem, meaning that if, for example, the movie doesn't get a score of at least 2 the first month, it's gone, if the score raises to at least 2.5 by the next month, it should get deleted, that way the little flash authors can participate, yet, we get rid of crap that doesen't deserve to be in the portal. Also having Portal Mods to choose Underdog and Turd would be great, so spamming idiots stop flooding the portal.

I feel that the Newgrounds Audio Portal, and Flash Portal should not be two separate entities in the sense that they are moderated differently. Certainly there are more aspects of design regarding Flash Animation, however I feel they should be graded the same way.

Newgrounds Audio Portal artists have approximately 20 minutes of recognition before their audio is lost in the abyss of new material. Once a song makes it to the bottom of the "Recent Submissions" list, it is no longer recognized (outside the Top Songs list, and the bleak possibility of receiving the "Best of The Week" spot) When compared to the Flash Portal, the major differences are the flags such as (Under Judgement, Great Score, etc.) and the 20 additional spots available on the Recent Submissions list. This leaves the Audio Portal Artists with much less of a possibility to receive any sort of notoriety for their submission.

I believe that a combination of the "Blams", "Saves", and Recent Material Flags (Great Score!, Under Judgement, etc.) lead to less "Zero Voting," more critical reviewing, and a more fair community in general. With the flags in place, artists generally take a look at items under "Great Score!" or "Verge of Death", this means that if an artist has been blatantly promoting their material on other websites, or having friends all vote 5 on the submission, it will be noticed, and if these grades were not parallel to the quality of the material submitted, a concordant grade will be made by other artists who notice this fact, leaving the Artist with a more realistic grade. The opposite situation is also true, if a user is unfairly voted zero upon, and is "Saved", the users who "Save" the material are accredited with this, and the Artist who submitted the material still has a chance to be noticed by the community.

Also correct me if I am wrong, but I am pretty sure each user's "Voting Power" is based off a scale determined by the Flash Portal. It would be more appropriate if each portal had a different Voting Power based off reviews, Saves, and Blams. Or at least a mix of the two. Currently there is no system in place within the Audio Portal that rewards users that constantly review material, or give appropriate grades.

For instance, if a user constantly zero votes new submissions, and then the song turns out to be a hit, the user's voting power should go down. And vise versa.

Sorry for such a long post...

I'd like to see alot more work put into the Audio Portal, such as a blam/pass system, and having the songs count towards your experience deposit.

Also, a Lit portal that works similar to the Audio/Flash portals would be wonderful.

Subscription on other users newsposts.

How to alert the user?
- Via PM
- Via e-mail
- Make an extra field in the blog section where the subscribed users newsposts will appear in chronological order (or perhaps with choises like alphabetic etc) ones you're logged in.

skimmed through a few pages and couldn't find this previously suggested.

I've seen other forum features that, before making a post, an alert will be made to the poster that another post has been made beforehand, giving the opporitunity for said poster to check the post that was made before his.

Is it possible to implement this into here?

I think it might be cool to be able to feature videos on your user page once you reach a certain level. this would both encourage users to vote on movies more and it would also give more recognized users to be able to show their followers want they like. I know that this might also increase users voting without watching the movie/playing the game, so you should make it so users have to watch the full length of the movie before they can vote on something, this should also imply with audio submissions, so this would force users to give the authors of the submission what they deserve for their submission.

I'm sure a lot of users will disagree with this because they have to watch the full movie, and thus slow down leveling, but I'm sure more mature users will agree that this is a good idea, I hope this is a useful contribution to MK3 ideas, good luck with the betterment of the site liljim!

~Sectus

I don't know if it's been mentioned before, but I'll post it anyways.
But seriously, I'm not going to read through 8 pages of posts just to figure out if ONE person mentioned it before. Sorry about that, I'm just too lazy. -.-'

Anyways.
It wouldn't be too bad if there was a feature in the forums for subscription. It would make it a hell'a lot easier to browse the threads and finding your way back to that one thread that you liked.
Shouldn't be too much work, right? There should be some pre-made script for it to download that'll just need some editing to fit NG if I'm not mistaken.

Seperate FLASH portal for games and movies? I think they're two different things, and should also not be judged next to eachother. Apparently the site has a flood of movies coming in, and games get anyway less points. Heck, in the top of all time, the first game is at the 5th position and the top 20 contains 4 games.

Games deserve their own place, as making games is a different skill than making movies. If Audio has its own place, games should too.

well, i've finally got through all the posts on here, and all the things i could think of are largely already here. however, i still feel the need to emphasise one or two ideas:

1. audio portal setup
i never did understand why the A.P. has none of the regulatory features the flash portal does (namely the blam filter). is it really that hard to apply them there? although the score an audio track gets depends much more on how many people 'just plain like it' than on how much skill/effort went into it, it could still be useful in getting rid of stolen audio files. i think it's worth trying, at least.

2. increased portal regulations
there's one thing in particular that makes me want to see some kind of second-level blam filter on the F.P.: spammers. ones that upload half-decent flashes to get through the filter, and (when the flash passes judgement), replace the content of the file with a load of garbage, and then re-upload the file. this is extremely annoying, as there doesn't currently appear to be any good way of stopping this. i've heard talk of portal mods being appointed to try and combat the issue; an idea which i'd like to second (and strongly recommend if it's not already in the works). failing that, keeping the whistle enabled on the flashes for X number of votes/days/views after it passes the filter may help lessen this (as well as the aforementioned stuff about higher pass thresholds and the whistle having a "this movie/game is spam" button).

I have just thought of one idea. When you go on review (flash/ audio) responses, it should list the responses by the date they were written, rather than the actual review. That way if someone responds to a review you did ages ago, you will find it quickly.

User Page Moderators to remove abusive news posts off user pages

I had this though for a while, hope nobody's done this before and I hope it's not too late to post this...

You all know how a lot of stolen submissions get passed judgment, and how you then have to PM Admins about it?

What if you could still blow the whistle after judgment?

That would be very helpful for getting rid of Stolen Submissions that made it passed judgment.

posted from official thread here

who else thinks this is a good idea?

when you level up you can choose any other level icon that you have unlocked so even if u are level 10 you can still have the lollipop icon , i think this is good because some people may not like some of the level icons , tell me what you think in the main forum link at top of page.

btw u can not get any level icon over your level some people have been confused about this

I thought about this a while ago, and I it hasn't been suggested yet (I think). In the Flash Portal, when you're hovering over a submission's name you can see the author, the current score, the size and the rating.

So I have a suggestion for the Audio Portal, why not have something similar? So when the mouse is over a submission's name, it works like in the Flash portal. But instead of showing the rating (because such a thing does not exist in the AP) it could show the genre. This is be the most important thing here, because sometime people go to the audio portal and look at the recent submissions, but maybe they only want to listen to a genre in specific. And also showing the author's name would help them a bit because more people would see who made the song before even listening to the submission.

That's all, cheers :)

I'd like to suggest favorite series, consindering we have favorite flash, and artists. This will most likely make our lists shorter, and letting others know what we love much easier.

Has anyone considered adding voting bonuses to the Audio Portal, in the same way that voting on Flash Videos have added voting power based on your blam/saves.?

Also, would be nice to see those votes also add to your experience as well considering there are a number of people, including me who enjoy the Audio Portal almost as much as the Flash Portal.

Both search bars are in dire need of improvement. I think the following suggestions would improve everyone's forum going experience. Since a lot of problems have already been mentioned, I'll post the ones I haven't seen.

1. Allow us to search for posts made just in one of the forums. I'm tired of searching for a thread made in the Video Games forum only to be bombarded with posts from General.
2. Have three search options for the portal's search bar. Movie, Game, and Author. I tend to play games more than I watch stuff, but when I search for something almost all of the results are movies. It's a simple addition, but a good one none the less.

You all know how a lot of stolen submissions get passed judgment, and how you then have to PM Admins about it?

I'd like to refine this one, like instead of the voting panel being 0 1 2 3 4 5, you'd change it so it was like the old audio voting panel with X 0 1 2 3 4 5, where X is the "Flag as abusive" button, and after you hit it, you'd open up the three categories in a submenu or something, I dunno.

Also, a new thing that I think should be added is a new separate category for submissions, instead of just games and movies. A lot of people put flashes down under the game/interactive category, mainly for the interactive category, but it shows up as a game in the portal, and people flame them saying that it's not a game.

There should be separate categories for interactive flash content and flash games.
Interactive content would be like a regular animation, but with, well, interactive content, and a game a game, and an animation an animation.

Finally at the end of the 9 pages...

Just like to put my weight behind the proposed flagging of abusive author review replies.
Just like to add a bit of argumentation for this.

I've read a few threads about it and some people seem to think that authors have the right to respond to abusive reviews. Sure they have, but not by flaming back. They have the whistle system to sort that out.

Rude or abusive people, wether they are reviewers or authors, contribute equaly make NG a shitty place. And alot of spam submitters are VERY rude to reviewers - even if the reviewer is just trying to critique constructively. As it is now the response feature is a free haven for those idiots that just wants to Troll.

"well don't review then" I've seen some people answer to this problem. Way to ignore the problem. Do you want people to review or not?

A solid abuse response system is vital to a site like this, people might get tired of the site if it is percieved as a free haven for trolls and flamers.

Just my 2/100.

Sincerely Octust

I do agree with being able to flag an author's response to review as abusive. And speaking of reviews, that's where my suggestion is. Specifically, flagging them should be tweaked a little.

Everyone knows how, if you're flagging a submission under judgment, you can say why it is being flagged? Well, maybe we should do the same thing with reviews, say which rule it is breaking. That way, the mods/admins will know what to look for, and it will prove that the person flagging it knows why they are doing so.

Another possible feature that could be implemented is, if a review that a user flagged is deleted, cleared without penalty, or cleared with penalty, then tell them through, say, a bot or something. I have a garbage whistle, and I am sure that I was only marking reviews against the rules. Well, if I knew what review I flagged that I got penalized on, I could learn from my mistake, and be able to flag more effectively.

Also, what's wrong with showing whistle points, so we know how well we're doing (or how much of a hole we've dug ourselves)?

Just my suggestions, as it seems review flagging is a bit confusing to me.

-I would like to see some more contribution slots next to the author's name. For example, in a multi-author collaborative project, one person might have done the art, another one did the story and voice, while the other did the concept, additional art, and voices. I know the "Author" title is all-rounded, but having more slots would be useful for collabs.

-I got the impression that only the one who uploaded the flash has the ability to reply to the reviews. I know there is an instance where I did the art, but someone else wrote the story. Some of the more critical reviews were focused on the story, and I just feel sorry that the writer doesn't have a chance to defend herself, leaving me with the crits. I know this is not like deviantArt where the reviews and response are threaded. But the way I'm going, I seriously wished that right underneath my response to a review is my collaborator's response to that same review. This would be great for if a critical review is directed towards someone else instead of the uploader, at least s/he can defend his/herself in response, or thank them if they wrote a good review. This would mean that instead of "Author's Response", it would be "omegafinal's Response:" or some other username.