I recently had a (now locked as I was sent here) thread on an idea to develop newgrounds further and enhance the animation community we have here. Here are a couple of posts (including my original) that pursue it as a logical stepping stone:
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Hello,
I apologise if somebody's already suggested this or perhaps if it's a silly thought in general, but how about video hosting here on newgrounds?
By no means am I saying 'let's be the next youtube', far from it. I just feel that with the options that are opening up for the bedroom animator, things like use of after effects and proper editing tools, the limitations of the .SWF is becoming more and more apparent. With video hosting, Newgrounds could be opening up to a whole wealth of truly inspirational animation work. Just look at Vimeo: example videos. Most of the work in that favourites list is by student animators, and none of it is short of master work.
I just think that, with all the benefits of using .swf (the clarity and filesize), it skimps out on things like: being perfectly playable on most machines (graphics heavy animations), containing high end visual effects and sounds, compositing effects and more.
Everyone knows that imported flash video compresses itself terribly into an .swf, and the fact that its got to be kept in and around 10mb makes it even worse.
So please consider adding some kind of video publishing tool to Newgrounds, one that can go through the portal system and provide a vast amount of fairly instant exposure for the up and coming animator. If theres a problem with server rental or something like that, maybe give an embedding option that can go through the portal and be added to the newgrounds collection, rather than just being an illustrative piece for your profile blog.
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"4). A film portal.
Tom has said before he will not do a Video portal youtube style because he wants to keep the site flash focused."
Just read this quote in a post added while I was writing this,
I agree, keeping Newgrounds flash oriented maintains its roots, but we could easily enforce 2D animation only submissions (I don't see why it should only be flash, traditional and otherwise digital 2D animation is perfectly as valid as a flash animation). Videos would still go through the portal, which is the perfect filtering system for this, but users could be informed of the rules beforehand.
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I agree with OP, flash isn't the only animating software there is. An animation video portal would attract more animators who use other animating software other than flash. And the uploaded video has to be an animation.
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I think it's a great idea as long as all security measures were put into place to keep any exploits away. Flash isn't the only way to make cartoons. People already submit animations made in other software in .swf format, which compresses them to shit. I see no problem in allowing alternative animation mediums, especially since flash as a video format may be obsolete in the future according to current tech trends.
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I for one hope that something changes, either the 10 mb flash limit is made larger or some form of video hosting is put in, although if video hosting is put in i sincerely hope it has an even more strict blam/save system then the current flash one.
you know, keep the videos as high quality as the good flash movies here. not a dumping ground for bull crap like youtube and vimo.
Im currently working on an animation but i dont have flash, so im going to have to find some way to render out all my frames in a swf format with sufficient quality and size.. that's going to be a pain in the proverbial butt if the current size limit is 10 meg. im proboly going to have to upload a HD version to youtube and a low quality version here. and i don't wanna do that.
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"Let's be the next Vimeo."
"Thats more like it."
I don't see the point in trying to develop this, not because it would be new for the site, but because it already exists. Unless you're able to differentiate the service from Vimeo/Youtube, I doubt it would get much attention.
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Newgrounds sets itself apart from things like Vimeo and Youtube because it has a strict filtering system in the portal- if your work isn't good enough, it won't make it through. I think a patrolled portal would hugely benefit the site. Here's my final thought:
Add a video portal yes, but don't focus it on being a 'video portal'- perhaps the best way around this is to simply change the 'Flash Portal' to an 'ANIMATION PORTAL' and include video uploading features within. That way, people would get that you can only upload animation.
Thanks to all the posters I have quoted here, if this gets through, I will personally thank you all by PM.