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Posted at: 9/9/09 11:41 AM

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Content Based forums.

IE each submitted piece of work on this site becomes an opening post in a separate content forum. So, you get three new types of forums, Flash Content, Audio Content, and Art Content or whatever you've decided to label it.

At which point you can change on the viewing page for the item to have the following:

[review] -- changes into more of the intended constructed criticism field.
[discuss] -- links to the discussion on the work and is more of a comment type system where users can discuss the work and keep going back and forth.

Pros:
- Keeps users more involved with actually caring about whats going on in the portals.
- Shift focus of on site discussion to works on site.
- Hopefully leads to better reviews.

Cons:
- More moderators to keep the extra forums inline.
- Rampant spamming.
- Group sniping.

It would be interesting, to say the least.

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Posted at: 9/12/09 01:16 PM

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K so I got refered to this post. I think that the audio portal needs the option to not auto-play music. It ocassionally causes me great pain and I never like auto-play movies anyways. What's the point of author comments if you can't read them first?

Additionally, while I know it's been brought up alot, the point system is old and stale and could use some tweaking. Since there are no B/P points in audio or art, maybe make it so 5 votes in either portal gives you the equivalent of 2-5 B/P points in that portal (I'm not picky.) That way, dedicated audio and art voters can see benefit from their "work."

On the subject of more points, while I'd like more GG I also see how it could be abused. So maybe instead of doubling the points available in one day you could have an additional 2 GG available if you vote on, say, 50 submissions in any portal combined. A difficult to abuse amount of work to reward ratio, so that even if someone just jumped on to vote on their faves for rank, they would still have to look around to get the bonus points.

Furthermore, I got a friggin garbage whistle after flagging a hacked Egoraptor review and I'd appreciate having it brought back to normal. I know I'm not the only one. And sorry for the not related-ness of this last bit.

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Posted at: 9/12/09 04:43 PM

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In the audio portal, it says, "keep voting - the more points you have, the more your vote is worth."

I thought maybe you should clear it up and say, "Your vote here will benifit you in NO way whatsoever, If you would like a higher voting power, go to the flash portal." ...Or something less aggressive along those lines.

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Posted at: 9/19/09 04:53 PM

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Facebook Connect would be great. Not that hard to implement. I can even do it for you.

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Posted at: 9/24/09 01:39 AM

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I don't know if this has been mentioned already but I think that in your account they should have a history of all the flashes that particular account has viewed so then people can stop making threads about "where is that flash" and they wont forget what it would be because it would be kept in the history.


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Posted at: 9/24/09 12:48 PM

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Two separtes rankings for games and movies and the whistle points counter which was requested by many other users


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Wegra

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Posted at: 9/25/09 11:31 AM

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I don't know if I said this but How about an option to search for reviews. This comes in handy if you wanna know if you reviewed that movie.


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Posted at: 9/26/09 04:41 PM

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Favorited Audio Portal Player
The Idea:
An audio portal player that continuously plays favorited audio portal submissions.

I had a few ideas about this concept, binge a new window that would be a module based audio portal player, the play list would be the favorited audio on the users profile.

Topic on the subject:
http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1102 535

Higher Visibility Range of Ratings

The Idea:
Being able to fully few the statistics created from votes. Up to the tenth decimal place or as chosen under member options.

Topic on the subject:
http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1074 596


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Gian

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Posted at: 9/30/09 01:52 AM

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Hi liljim, this something I wanted to share to you, and newgrounds. Hope it helps, or give new ideas to make this site, a better, and more comfortable place.

Autoupdate:(that's the name I'm giving to it)

You won't need to click on the refresh button to see what's new on the BBS. I think that's a pretty good idea, since you could see the exact instant of a post, reply, and thread blocking. This would apply too for every thread, you could see every new reply/comment instantly.

And why just keeping this to the BBS? Why not making this an option for the portals AND blogs too? What do you think about real time submissions on the portals, together with the approval, blamming, and real time voting? Or real time comments on your blogs (even if blogs have not a big traffic, but why not?)

Why I think this is a good idea?

Starting from the fact that you won't change the view times, everytime you see your own submission/thread/post. And sometimes it's annoying to refresh the site, at least to me. This would be a quicker way to do it.

What if I want to keep the page I'm looking/reading unmodified?

Well, this ''autoupdate'' system would be optional, and it could be activated or deactivated on your personal preference. This way, you won't have to worry about losing the train.

This is an example of how would it work, but in this case, with people uploading pictures. Wait a bit, and you will notice new pictures coming out.

It would be really cool if somebody added some better/new ideas on this.

So what do you think?

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Gian

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Posted at: 9/30/09 01:55 AM

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This is an example of how would it work, but in this case, with people uploading pictures. Wait a bit, and you will notice new pictures coming out.

Damn, I forgot to post the link for the example, so here it is.

Another thing that would make this useful, is the fact that, sometimes you are answering a thread, and you've been typing a lot, just to see this message when you click the Post it!> button.

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Posted at: 10/7/09 07:54 AM

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Solution to Zero-Bombing in the Audio Portal, and Improvement to the Rating System in General

Right now, you have two rating systems for both the flash and audio portals - the two systems being the 5-star system (with the faces) and the 10-star review system. Why do we need two systems?

Scrap the 5-star review system and keep the 10-star review system. In rating, they will also be reviewing and thereby revealing themselves. Their votes are not anonymous, so any bad or unfair rating is more detectable and they are more likely to be punished for engaging in such behavior (i.e. whether by mods temporarily banning them from reviewing, or by other users deciding to give this user bad reviews in return). Thus, they are also more likely to refrain from this behavior.

I'm still not sure what the point of having the 5-star system is when we already have the 10-star system. Someone please explain this to me. "The 5-star system has the faces so it looks cool" you may say. Okay, well if you want to keep the faces then just move them to the review section (have the faces there instead of the stars), and possibly change the review scale from 10 to 5 (there's no need for 10 rankings, honestly).


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Posted at: 10/7/09 08:00 AM

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To add onto my proposal above:

Voting power, etc. would be determined by your vote in the new 5-scale + review system instead of the current 5-scale without review system.


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Posted at: 10/13/09 12:06 AM

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Most people who submit songs to the Newgrounds Audio portal, on a regular basis, are much aware of the flaws and problems it has. In short, many users feel the rating they receive on there songs is very unfair. This rating is important to them because they have the chance to receive special privileged such as the entrance into the top 5 weekly songs or the top rated song list. This essentially defines the popularity of the artist.

It has come to my attention that many aspiring artists have actually quit submitting royalty free songs to the portal, some to the extent of removing all of there content. As you can see, it is easy to prove that the audio portal has problems, but rather then emote you too these problems, I have come up with a solution! If you have made up your mind that there is no solution, or if you are happy with the way the audio portal works now, I would advise you to stop reading!

To find a solution to the problem, we first need to understand the source of the problem, which as previously discussed, lies with in the "rating system" and the "Top 5" system. My proposal is to base the choosing of the top 5 against something which is true and does not change. So how do we do this?

How the Top 5 Is chosen

Popularity / Time

Time = Amount of hours since the song was submitted.

Popularity = A sum of the views, downloads and reviews of the song.

* This value will only last until the end of the week.

Popularity:

This is only a test system and may need to be changed
0.1 point per view
0.2 points per download
(0-10)/10 Points for review, x2 if the review is helpful, /2 if the review is not

So lets put this into practice

At the time when the top 5 gets chosen...

Lets say song A gets

100 Views
10 downloads
no reviews

time since submitted - 10 hours

Song B gets

200 views
10 downloads
no reviews

time since submitted - 30 hours

Song A would have precedence over song B for the Top 5 because it has a higher value of popularity / time.

This value would be removed when the top 5 songs are chosen for that week.

The other top songs, which are not related to any timed, or daily activity, would be chosen simply by having the highest popularity. This of course would create a problem where these popular songs would be cemented in, with no chance of the song list changing. This is a small price to pay for fixing the bigger problem of the top 5, but I have also though of several solutions to this minor problem.

The most popular songs, which are say 5 years old or more, could possibly put in a "Hall of fame", which would change around the top songs.

The most popular songs could also be weighed against time, so songs that are older could be reduced down the tract.

The top songs could be reduced a top 10, and the weekly top 5 could be changed to the weekly top 10, this would reduce the effects the problem has.

This system would essentially fix many problems which users face. People would not face angry users, 0 bombing there songs In fact, there is actually no way to make a song have a bad score because it can only be increased. If someone writes an insulting review, it could be flagged and removed.

The final change would be to either remove the rating system or leave it there for a simple indication to people viewing the song, how good the song was rated by other users, whether it be valid or not.I suppose the rating would become more valid because there would be no reason to lower it without legitimate reason.

The rest of the system would remain the same, your download only counts once per day, same with views, and you can only review once.

In conclusion...

Pros:

Would make many people happy, and improve the quality of songs on the top 5 list.

Would also be easy to implement because everything can be calculated from current data.

Cons:

Would cement the top songs.

Would take some time and work to change the portal.

Would be hard to get people to adopt the change, even if they want a change.


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Posted at: 10/13/09 10:01 AM

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If you're looking to get more stat addicted whores ;), I might suggest adding some sort of actual page to display medals in the future, complete with a full listing of games with medals not yet played by the logged in user and vacant spaces to emphasize how much work they have to do still. Also, you could really drive it home by having a hall of fame, where user's are listed who have the most medals and all of their medals are displayed as a glorious eye burning collage.

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Posted at: 10/13/09 03:12 PM

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I personally, suggest adding medals for the Audio Portal. The medals could be as simplistic as reaching a number of helpful reviews, a number of useless ones... achieving a certain score on a submission (4.20, lol) and other useless things such as "Name your song with the word 'pickle' in it" or some other kind of way to attract attention to this power thirsty group of immature sucks. Another type of medal would be a certain achievement in listens or downloads, more specifically "Get 1337 listens in a song" or other ways of saying that the portal is still healthy as a community. It's just a start, perhaps it could be added in.

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Posted at: 10/17/09 02:23 PM

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........I'm really tired atm so I probably didn't explain my ideas well, but here they are........
A User achievement bar on userpages and in maybe other places where user info appears around NG. The bar would have several icons and no text, the icons would resemble (flash, audio, art, maybe more specific things). If a user has submitted enough movies, games, audio, art and has a high enough batting average then the the achievement is lit up on the bar. If the user's batting average drops then they'll lose the achievement. Having these achievements could unlock things and give users extra features while other achievements don't, example: a user can only create an alpha or use medals in games if they have a certain achievement/s. There could also be achievements for people who vote regularly, vote overtime, have been favourited many times, contribute to the BBS, have participated in many collabs, or other things.
This would encourage more users to try and create something good and to get involed in Newgrounds.

Alphas on profiles, but much simpler than ones that were in the NG Mag. You could add small progress bars or pies charts to it and lebel them differently (scene 1, scene 2 or graphics, audio).
You may could also make the option of an Alpha Post aswell as News Post which would be the same as a news post just that you could add progress bars and you could select details (eg. Movie/game/song/loop, genre/catergory).

~User status where the user can update what and if they are working on anything, (audio loop/ flash movie/ on hiatus/ gone away/ left NG). Or if not just displaying when a user 'last logged in' on their profile or showing if a user has not logged in for a long time so we know if they're active or not, have left NG or not.


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Posted at: 10/25/09 06:14 PM

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Let's say you find this really good UJ/Recent submission.

You put it in your favorites, vote 5, tell a couple other people about it.

Now that can't really help that submission.

So I was thinking, how about a button next to the "Recommend for a collection" that says "Recommend for Front Page"?

Now this could be abused by alts so not really a good idea, but like the collection button, the admin still has to approve it.

Also, I think this would only be applicable to submissions that are only a day or two old.

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Posted at: 10/27/09 01:44 PM

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A slogan selector option, where you can choose the slogan which you see between "Everything by Everyone" and "the problems of the future: Today!"

that way, the people who prefer the old slogan can have it, while the site default is the current one.

That'd be awesome. (I'm in nostalgia mode today)

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Posted at: 10/27/09 02:05 PM

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I submitted this to the Zerovoting and Exposure thread, and it seems to be a good idea... Here's another post on how to remove zerobombing, except this time, it works.

As Box-Killa said, the main problem falls heavily on the fact that 0-bombers crave attention: they want Top 5's, Top 30's, etc. And so, they vote low on people's songs so that theirs comes out on top. The solution is simple: they CAN'T vote until the top 5/30 and the featured artist are announced. Now, the problem of this is that it would then be impossible for the top 5/30 to be determined, so you add a recommendation system. An example will make it easier to explain:
So, say, Song X gets submitted to the AP. Obviously, this will have no score so far, since voting is disabled. Instead, people can 'recommend it' for the top 5. Song X has the most recommendations by the end of the week, so it's top of the week. From then on, the voting system continues normally on it. Now obviously, the AP needs more exposure for its songs to be recommended, so a simple solution is to fix the links at the bottom of the page. Like, when you press the link at the bottom of the top 30 newest songs, it'll take you to all the songs submitted since the last top 5/30 and featured artist was announced, sorted from most recent at the top to least being at the bottom. When the week passes, this list is refreshed and new songs from that week are posted there. This list can also be sorted by recommendations.

Pros:
-Those links at the bottom of the page will finally be fixed, making the AP much easier to view songs with.
-I suppose it's easy to implement.
-0-bombers can't harm all the songs submitted before the next top 5/30 and featured artist have been announced.
-Top 5 will become much more accurate.
-Say goodbye to self-voters.
-AP gets more exposure.
-Artists finally get the chance to see how it feels like fairly being put into the top 5.
-Yay, the AP is fixed!

Cons:
-Didn't think of any yet...

What do you think?


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Posted at: 11/1/09 02:07 PM

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Could there be a way for us to know when we have typed enough to satisfy the "original text : quoted text" ratio?
Something like the system you use to say whether or not the password is safe when a user signs up would probably work.

Example:

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Posted at: 11/12/09 10:21 PM

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I always thought it'd be cool to have your "age/gender" and "location" somewhere under your icon on your name. It would give users a better feel for who they're replying to and such. Although I bet it's been suggested before, but it isn't on your rejected list so... Yeah, just putting that out there.


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Posted at: 11/19/09 08:19 AM

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i was thinking if the author's flash submissions page was categorized in the way he/she want would look much better than if the flash movies are categorized in the year of release by default.. what do you think?..

in case if you didn't understand what did i mean, the picture below is the sample of the flash submission categorized by the year, i was thinking if there will be an option where the author can make his/her own categories where he/she can place the flash submission..

sample:

pico:
pico's school
nene's bla bla

random:
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adult:
....
...

etc

instead of this (sample of my submissions categorized by year)

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Posted at: 11/19/09 11:13 PM

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Maybe there should be an award in the store.

Like you can get a choice of getting all of the EXP you missed long ago or other awards, if you buy $100 in total of items.


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To clarify,
I think mine is a good idea, since it would get more people to buy the products in the store more often than usual, add much more profit.


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Posted at: 11/20/09 09:47 AM

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How about an option to save your replys ? You know, in case your writing a long post and your computer freezes up. This would be great for the people doing the top 100 reviewers list, and such. Of course I don't know if that's even possible but it sounds like a cool idea.


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Posted at: 11/20/09 05:36 PM

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Don't know if this will actually work or not but how about putting a button in each of the ng user's home page....a "ban" button if you will...how this button is utilized is that the user clicks his/her button and it tells the user how many times he/she has been banned and the reasons that got them banned in the first place. That way the user won't have to pm a mod asking why he/she got banned...and they can learn from their mistakes to avoid being banned in the future. I think this would be a learning experience and only ng users would be able to see thier own ban button...no one elses. I think this is a pretty good idea. Thoughts?

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Posted at: 11/24/09 01:37 PM

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Make it to where you can whistle at flashes even after they get past judgement. Also Make it to where you can blow your whistle if its a spam flash. And make if your in a good mood lets us get double xp points for saving and blaming flashes on the judgement zone. I'm mean like instead of getting 10 points we get 20. Maybe some new emoticons...

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Sorry for double posting but I forgot something. Make new auras. And take it back to were your voting style chooses the color. Add like, brown for people who try to blam flash with like a really high average, or ones that got on front page. And fag for peoples who rate and review porn alot. And try to put it to were you can choose to hide your level. And don't forget new emoticons...

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