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Posted at: 7/19/09 06:08 AM

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I was browsing through my audio submissions (I have 34 of them right now) and was thinking how difficult it might be for a potential listener to search for the better sounding music in my account. Common sense would lead me to believe that a large quantity of songs in an account makes it difficult for the visitor to find something of his/her liking.

Many would be discouraged and would simply avoid listening in the first place. Some would be fooled by the scores and would prefer to listen to a 4.21/5 song instead of a 3.97/5 song, hence clicking on my worse submissions (not score related) and decide that the rest of my songs are the same.

My point is, why not give us the chance to create folders/albums to place our songs in? I don't think that it would be hard to implement and the advantages would be various for everyone:

1)The artists could place the music in various folders/albums, thus giving them the chance to group their music by genre, theme, month of creation or whatever they want. This could also be implemented for flash submissions (e.g. group all episode flashes in a folder, parody flashes in another folder, etc.).

2)The account would appear more orderly and appealing to the eye.

3)The listeners who happen to bump into your account will have higher chances in finding something of interest to them.

It's just a thought.
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I need Folders to organize my large number of songs. Any chance this will ever happen?

Side note: I know that I can delete my bad songs, but that would imply removing all the comments that were given to them (good and bad) which would be a shame

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Posted at: 7/19/09 01:08 PM

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My idea to stop people losing their accounts from those spam PMs with links in. You know, when the mods got hacked and all havoc broke loose? I think you understand how annoying that was.

Idea:
One of those things that when someone clicks a link that leaves the site, it gives a 'WARNING: You are leaving this site!' message, just so they realise it will no longer be NG.

How could it be achieved?:
Well there is already a system that turns URLs into links automatically on posts and messages, so it is half way there. It could be modified to go to something like 'newgrounds.com/leaving/www.actual-link-
thing.com' and give the warning on that page. Maybe a 'Do you want to continue?' and other options etc etc...

Purpose:
To stop phishing; to help stop people losing their accounts.

Already done?:
Nope; this idea appears to be a new thought on this site.

How does it affect the user?:
Well it helps them, but wouldn't actuality require any more effort from them. So good users don't have problems, and spam users have more difficulty tricking people to giving their accounts away.

Why do this?:
People (like me for example) are quite lazy, and so it will always be easy to trick people onto other fake sites. However it would only require a simple thing such as this idea to help prevent it.

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Posted at: 7/19/09 02:20 PM

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Ok I REALLY think this is a good idea and would benefit the entire flash and audio community.

For the Flash portal, Newgrounds has a neat and tidy co-author system set up, but there is one major flaw. You can only select ONE thing that a person did. In many instances, a co-author might have not only done the MUSIC but the WRITING as well. That person would want to be credited for both of those things so more people would want to hire him for his music and/or his writing. More people would know that he not only did the music, but wrote it as well. Since the two are completely different things, no one would really know that he did both the music and writing when the co-author system says that he only did the MUSIC.

What Im saying is that I think the co-author system should allow multiple titles for one person, say 3 maximum. This way, everyone will be able to be labeled for EVERYTHING they did and not just ONE.

And honestly, barely anyone looks at the credits in the game or movie... the co-author placement makes it almost the first thing you see when the page loads so everyone will know what each co-author did. And many people out there need a write, musician, voice actor, e.t.c. and will be looking for those titles under the co-authors of movies and games. If they dont see that the musician actually wrote the movie as well because the co-author system only allows one label, he will move onto another flash looking for a writer.

AS FOR THE AUDIO PORTAL

I think the audio portal needs a co-author system... but im sure that sometime or another the portal will be updated as it has many flaws.

Here is what the multi label flash co-author system would look like. Either a | or a / would seperate each label. Yet again, there is just enough space for 3 labels so I think 3 should be the maximum.

THANKS! I hope you reply. :)

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Posted at: 7/19/09 08:59 PM

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I've said this before, (though not in this thread) so I'll make it quick.

I think that in general the audio portal is sort of minor when compared to the Flash portal. I realize that the flash portal is older, but there are a lot of things i find lacking in the audio portal. Quickly those things are:

1.) I've never seen the feature for "good score" and "awesome score" in the recently submitted section of the audio portal. Maybe it's just me, and audio just doesn't get enough votes to trigger this. Maybe lower the quota necessary for each to "activate"

2.) There is a real lack of representation on the site in regards to the audio portal. Taking a look at the front page, it's obvious that flash recieves much more attention (just look at all those modules!). The only thing from the audio portal is four "featured" songs, which usually take a while before they are updated, as opposed to the numerous lists of flash submissions.

3.) This isn't a big one, but it would be nice to have some more awards. There are too many to name for flash submissions, however there is only the "top five" and the one featured audio artists. I realize that the rapidness at which audio is spat into the audio portal would make it difficult to manage awards, and this is dealt with in my next point. Some ideas for awards could be like maybe top submission for the week in each genre, or maybe featured artist in each genre, and maybe an audio equivalent to "turd of the week" or whatever it's called.

4.) To deal with what I mentioned earlier, perhaps some sort of "judgment" system for audio should be made, like the flash submissions that are "under judgment". It would help cutdown on the submission that are just garbage (like immature kids who are just screaming, or the punks that submit tones.) and allow the audio portal to be "filtered", allowing it to be full of only real submissions that are actually enjoyable. It would also free up space for you NG guys I'm sure.

5.) Allow audio submissions to list collaborators, like with flash collabs. This would allow people to visit the users involved much more efficiently, rather than searching for them, as well as allow multiple artists to recieve credit for the song, rather than just the person who submits it.

I know it's a lot. I guess the only thing I can say is that I find a lot of things that could improve the Audio Portal. I'm not complaining, and I hope I didn't come across as such. Please consider my suggestions, and if possible let me know that you at least read them, just so I know they were actually known to exist!

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Posted at: 7/21/09 11:10 AM

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STEM said i should post my idea here.

"I lose track of how much time i waste on the BBS, so i'd love to be able to find out how much life i've wasted in total on NG being logged in, and to keep track of how long i waste being an annoying sub-troll on here per log in sessions. I daresay it could improve productivity!"

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Posted at: 7/22/09 11:16 PM

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For copyright reasons ad revenue should only go to people with original audio. This will encourage the use of the audio portal by flash artists and potentially save NG from any lawsuits or threats.

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Posted at: 7/23/09 10:16 PM

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As of now, the secrets on newgrounds are really easy to get (except for the last one obviously)..

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE SECRETS D:

I just had a thought while mowing my lawn, what if once you got a certain number of experience points you could have your own @newgrounds.com Email address, much like TomFulp@newgrounds.com and WadeFulp@newgrounds.com...

I don't know if this would be possible, but it would be really cool to unlock a @newgrounds.com email address...

A good place to unlock that would be at 23,490 experience points, because that is when al lof the gold level icons start (level 47)...

I think it would be a cool idea if it was possible :D

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Posted at: 7/24/09 01:14 AM

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There should be changes to the front page news post regulations: people who have won TOTW and Underdog awards should not get them. The majority abuse that right.


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Posted at: 7/24/09 08:04 AM

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At 7/24/09 01:14 AM, BrianEtrius wrote: How about adding as part of a flash/audio/art submission when you're crediting the various people you can credit someone as influence.

It would make sense for all the Madness and Clock Crew and whatnot submissions to credit the original artist.

It's already there in the flash portal submission process.

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The games, movies, series, and collections portals need some extreme change. Almost nothing new comes to the 4 examples in each sub-genre, and not much new flash is being placed in some collections, such as in the games, movies, and mature portal.

Also, as noticed by others, the downloads and chatroom haven't been updated since forever. There are a few useless links when sent from some reference links, and the bottom link references need to be updated for a better look, and for an art portal link.

Many's idea for a friend list is great, because newgrounds seems to show little priority in spectator acounts, and so the only way to get known contacts is for getting in collaboration woth other flash users. This is a little bias for other coordinators of the audio and art portal, and it seems the only thing spectators can do is to rank others' productions.

The ranking system should also be editted, because more than 75% of the submissions here is only viewed at their early life, and then is left stuck somewhere in the portal forgotten. Perhaps raising the score minimum needed will help.

According to many, the audio portal has so much potential, like bringing it around like an application on facebook, except it can be found at every link within newgrounds. There are so much audio, and even though your letting a select few in, there are just too little that people would look forward to listen again (much like the audio portal). Also, the voice-acting genre is present, but it can't be selected from the genre-selection scrolldown, which happens to be one of the most popular genre other than techno or "PX9" audio submissions. The color-coded score, according to a few in this forum, does not work, which is true.

Something cool would be a "flash", "art", and "audio" day, where the front page is featured with the content.

Contest variety should increase, because all are within art, audio, and flash. Although this is what I'm talking about, contests for better improvements for the site could work (like the time when ads for a link to the mainpage was competed over). Contests to add more downloads, change the layout of the site temporarily (like in, oh I don't know, "art day"?), and to design awards, which brings me to...

I think being able to design the layout of small things for yourself would show some individuality, like switching our level icon be clicking it from your design to our design, and maybe being able to incorporate products made from flash (such as cursors or level icons) to our own account. You could pile those "personalizers" in a "trbute" portal, or something like that.

Being able to change the color theme of newgrounds for ourselves is a little frivolous, but my eyes are getting a bit worn out from seeing orange and black everywhere.

The picture in the flash portal needs to include a few more crew members, because those crew members already went down in history here.

Medals from games look more like pictures in squares. Huh. This is very bad D:.

Maybe you could return the flash animation now since computers are now modern and faster. You know, the one which appears every time you vote? (Or at least used to.) Plus, the NG mag archives need serious editting, because every article isn't availabe, show ing a funny yet crappy animation of Darnell burning some paper (wtf?).

Also, I did post 4 replies last time. Maybe you could add an edit feature to your posts, maybe not being able to remove, but at least able to add on.

You should update your self-ads (ads in newgrounds leading to another link within newgrounds, like the medal page or enlisting add). Not the link itself, but the design of them. 'Is all I'm saying. (And I am talking about making an animation for the medal ad and includin "submit art as well!" at the enrolling link.)

Heck! Just make medals a spot in the collections portal!

If you actually do upgrade customization for personalization, you should consider placing ads for newgrounds on better sites that will definitely get more traffic, like AdventureQuest or World of Warcraft's site. But not on every empty space. Because it does get annoying. Very annoying. Especially AdventureQuest. Period.

I don't feel like writing forever, so I'll tell you this - since you set those surveys, it really improved this site a heck of a mountain. Make more surveys! Make a mini-survey (I really mean poll, but w/e) on a few of pages on newgrounds. Like medals and the flash layout - brilliant! And the audio portal finally doesn't freeze uncontrollably everytime the time bar is moved. It makes me look forward to listening songs over and over again. However...

The Art Portal has a lot of potential, but it is already filled with too much crap, and I just don't get scouting. The Art Portal is like a garbage can for art at the most, not a cesspool. The layout is beautiful, but the sub-genres are really vague to actually categorize in. But the filtering for maturity is brilliant... You should place filters for the flash portal too.

I really miss the subject content, so I have to guess what is the thing that makes it rated that.

Add some maturity ratings for the audio portal. Two would be fine - "For Everyone", and "Has Everything". You can guess which has the mature content. or, Friendly and Hazordous. Or E and M. W/E.

You need to publicize the user of the day on the front page. I only acknowledged that award yesterday. You need to give an actual design for it, too. Make the award visible to everyone on their page, until the day has passed, and then leave an award with a different design for a retired user of the day. A little trifling, but if you want it on the site, might as well perfect it.

UPDATE GAME OF THE MOMENT MORE FREQUENTLY! You coul make it like miniclip's front page features, featuring a movie, audio submission, and art submission also.

The score ratings for flash submissions should be more accurate - sometimes I see one with a higher score underneath one or two lesser-scored submissions. And I do know that the Awesome/Great Score color codes are different from the front page than the flash potal page.

Make more featured days, like "Canada Day", or "Independance Day". Also, get the bots functioning better, focusing on i-bot here. He hasn't featured any art yet.

I'll update later.

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Here is my art submission which has yet to be scouted. And it shouldn't be. Srsly. It sucks ballsack.

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Posted at: 7/25/09 10:47 PM

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Not sure if this has been suggested, but a screening process for fileswaps. Too many things are being fileswapped and if the swap actually served a purpose and was adequate, it would pass anyway

Like in the art portal, turn off AO Content option? Self Explanatory...

Turn Off Thumbnails option? Too many DD flashes and a recurring flash with the thumbnail of a gay blowjob are truly disturbing... Just turning off the thumbnail shouldn't take away from the flash, but it will stop random people from seeing NSFW images from sick freaks

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Posted at: 7/28/09 12:57 PM

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The option to simply change the region time on the website!

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There should be an option to add series to your favorites section. It would save room instead of having a link to every single little episode.


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This is my idea for the NG mini box =] ,
its a small box that is always on your bottom right side of the screen, it will be decorated in NG metal grey and NG / HL2 orange.

But first.. You know when your, say, browsing the forums? You have no idea whats going on in the flash, audio or art portal!
Something great might be happening while your ignorantly posting memes in some lame general thread!

But with this NG gadget,
every time something happens, a little screen will come out from the box and it will say if somebody created a thread/Somebody submitted a flash animation
Saying.
"Attention!" As the title on the top,
"<Enter NG username here> Has submitted a flash submission and is currently under judgement!"
And it will have a little picture of the flash`s icon, and when you click it, it will instantly jump you to that submission.
Same with audio or art.

And it will also tell you when somebody creates a thread.
"<Enter NG username here> Has just posted a thread in <Enter topic here>!"
And it will have the title of the thread and when you click it, you will appear in that thread.

NG news will also come up on the screen (Since you never know with all the people on this site)

If these get annoying the box has an options button so that you can tick off what you want to be informed on and don`t want to be informed on.
(This way its a win for the people that want the box and don`t want the box)

When you vote to Blam/Protect a flash, then when it gets through/gets blammed, it will also tell you
Because I`ve noticed that when i`ve voted on a judgement flash, it mostly just.. goes and i have no idea if i got the points

Plus, the mini box will show you if a flash hits the top charts/gets front page, like:
"Attention!" As the title...
"<Enter Flash name here> Has just earned a trophy!"
And it will display the flash`s icon and the trophy that it has next to it.
This will be great for authors to watch over they`re own submissions without having to go over to they`re account and staring at them.

Any flash thats...
-On the front page.
-On your favs list
-Has been voted positively by you. (3+)
Will be effected by the trophy part.

The box will also have the NG chat installed onto it, so you can chat and browse NG at the same time! with a friend PM system aswell.
(Kinda like steam chat but no Ctrl+Tab annoyance)

With a site as big as NG, i think that this will be a great thing to add on to it, since NG is far too big now for you to know whats going on half
of the time anymore, so this little gadget will make everything easier for everybody!
Since NG is in the center, i found that the Minibox can sit in the side bar, which is completly out of the way. and if you want it somewhere else,
It can be dragged to another spot where you find it to be best to be.
Thank you and i hope that this idea will be considered =]


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Ability to dim the lights on anything you want people see interest in.
Example- Someones needs to know where the Rankings tab is, you can give them a url and everything will show up dimmed but the Rankings tab, and the ability to turn it off from a button, maybe next to your username, or just go back to the previous page.
--- a. What level of user demand for this idea would there be?
Every level.
--- b. Does it serve a purpose?
Yes, stated above.
--- c. Is there something else NG does that already takes care of this?
No.
--- d. Include your reasoning in your post.
Stated above.


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Another idea for the Audio Portal!

After thinking about how much spam we get in the AP, i think we need our own blam system. That way users can aid you NG staff in eliminating spam in the AP.

Also, I think after a certain point when a user has so many entries with low scores his account should be deleted, as he's probably doing nothing but spamming, like this guy:

http://sex0r.newgrounds.com/audio/

Almost all of his audio has scores that are fractional, and almost all of them are spam. Him and users like him shouldn't be given this many chances. I mean, sure he made one good entry so that he could get approved, but then after that he's just been spamming ever since.


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repost from
http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1090 206
Instrument choice section
The individal song pages could use a section listing the instrument(s) used, or with virtuals the keysound. The Audio Portal could then have a section where you could search for songs with your favorite instrument type. It might also lead to better, more specific, and useful reviews.

otoh TMM43 mentioned it might require too much programing to be worth it, so in the alternative just a recommendation that audio authors might want to include instrument info in their song's general description so we can google for it.


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Another idea:

Show the whistle RANK number of those with normal or garbage whistles. This would give people immediate feedback on the accuracy of their whistling habits, without disclosing the points system itself. The full details and reasoning of the idea can be read in the discussion thread, but it basically boils down to this:

- Normal + Garbage whistles get a rank number displayed beneath them. This would give newer users a clue if they were flagging things correctly or not before their whistles go up / down in status, without showing the points themselves (lots of accounts with unused whistles = obvious changes in whistle rank upon whistling something that gets deleted / cleared).

- Bronze or higher whistles are not changed at all (the rank score disappears once the whistle gets to bronze). This idea is to help those who aren't that confident with whistling stuff, and it's probably unnecessary to users who've already managed to improve their whistle level (i.e. they already know what's abusive and what isn't). To avoid it being used as a bragging tool by the older users, it shouldn't appear after the whistle has reached bronze.

This ultimately depends on if it's actually possible to create a rank system from the whistle points system in the first place, but if it is I think this could make people more willing to use the whistle feature without fear of getting a garbage one before they realise they were making a mistake with it.


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Ok, my idea was suddenly deleted, so I'm reposting it with a different version.

Allow users to login to Newgrounds with OpenID and allow existing users to map their username to an OpenID.

Warm up yourself here: openid.net/developers

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The green and blue "High Score" markers would be great to have in the audio portal. They would work well to get good songs more listens on their first run through the front page of the AP. Right now the songs get maybe 30 listens and 5 votes and then are gone.


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Interaction with Newgrounds via a client API.

For example:
www.newgrounds.com/api/create_new_post - takes in a blog post POSTed to it and post it to Newgrounds
www.newgrounds.com/api/vote_on_flash - votes on a Flash specifying the ID of the Flash and the rating

Also, I'd like the ability to share a Audio Portal, Art Portal or Flash Portal submission on Twitter/Facebook/Digg/Delicious...

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Hi

Two suggestions:

1) A Point and Click section in the games area. There are TONS of these and they clutter up the adventure games section. There are so many of them that the idea of making a sub-section for them just isn't working.

2) Profile Customization. Allow members to customize their profiles, by changing the colour theme, modify the banner etc.


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I think that reading the Help/FAQ section should be manditory (and that it should be editted among other things, like Tom's Bio and Newground's History). Making a manditory quiz concerning its content would help catch users who simply skip the guidelines. Plus, making the age option manditory is important for restricting them from all flash over their suggested rating.

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I was thinking, maybe to reduce the amount of duplicate threads, you could make it so whenever somebody is about to submit a thread, it does a quick search for threads with similar titles within the past week or so, and if there is it brings up a small list of related threads and asks if they are still sure they would like to post their topic. This could be useful for places like the audio forum where new people constantly ask the same questions without looking first.

It's just a thought though. I'm guessing that would be a lot more difficult to implement than it sounds (I know nothing about programming).


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Give me an option between my most recent favourites being added to the bottom or added to the top. I loved the old way much better, now it's just more work in the art of organisation.

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Hi, I got a idea that will help the actual review system
Remove the award "Review Crew Pick" and "Underdog", give the right to the author to delete the review in his flash and the possibility to answer some review

Why?

Because the review are supposed to help the author and ask question, not to make the flash popular

By giving the right to delete review to the author, that will stop people that say thing like "hey, if you want to unlock that guy, here the password: XXXXXX" and it will reduce review mod's work

But then, we will have a problem: author will delete low score review and keep high score, to win RCP

This is why RCP and underdog should be remove, and without award, I think that mod will delete less review, and people will leave more review (more review=usefull to the author)

My last idea is to give the right to normal people to answer other people question
If someone is stuck on a level and the author is not here, other people can help


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~I quickly skimmed through the thread, and i don't think i saw anything i thought was completely related. So, well, here'goes~

~On the FP and AP alike, i think that when you vote on a submission, there should be a userlist bank below the voting section that keeps track of who voted what score and how many times. Either that or it lists what they voted on what material/how many times they voted what score on material in their own profile. Or making a review mandatory for a blam. I don't think a user's own votes should show up, because i personally feel a user has the right to vote whatever he pleases on his/her own material. (but that's another discussion) Again, I hope i'm not just diggin up old corpses, but I feel that this would help expose some of the Blam-terrorists. There could be some expanding and extrapolation upon this point, but that's a lot more deatil i think I don't wanna go into. ~

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Posted at: 8/29/09 08:07 PM

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I think we should definitely start supporting .PNG images on the NGBBS. It doesn't corrupt the RGB of an image if photoshopped, it can support moving frames life .gif's and it does it at a low memory rate, usually well below 150k.

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Posted at: 9/4/09 01:43 PM

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I went back a number of pages and I did not see this recommended so I thought that I would give it a shot.

Revamp the Games with Medals page. My most obvious suggest would be a filtering mechanism so that games could be sorted by score, submission date, number of medals, and medal points. In its current state, the page is just so overwhelming to those who are not playing every new medal game as it is released. Just looking at the page, I have no idea which of those games are actually good.

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Posted at: 9/5/09 02:24 PM

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I think that it would be amazing if newgrounds had it's own audio and/or flash creator. The things like FL Studio and other programs that allow you to create flash/audio. Except, well, you know it would be unique. Sounds can be from newgrounds and if the users want they could upload there own sounds to use in songs or flash. Also there would be some basic characters that could be in the flash program so the people can just test around with em. Ya know it would have basic things and then it would have things that no other flash/audio maker has.

To me this seems like a great idea.


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