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At 2/26/09 05:19 PM, DeathNoteetoNhtaeD wrote: Because, "Anglo-Saxon" flowed better than "Angle-Saxon".

exactly what l said


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At 2/27/09 07:16 AM, HeavyTank wrote: exactly what l said

What he said.


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At 2/27/09 07:24 AM, DeathNoteetoNhtaeD wrote:
At 2/27/09 07:16 AM, HeavyTank wrote: exactly what l said
What he said.

What they said.

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At 2/27/09 05:08 PM, SoundWave23 wrote:
At 2/27/09 07:24 AM, DeathNoteetoNhtaeD wrote:
At 2/27/09 07:16 AM, HeavyTank wrote: exactly what l said
What he said.
What they said.

what l am trying to say is that if you say something l say while you say something that l already said you say the same thing twice.
I say, l said a lot of stuff...


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At 2/28/09 08:37 AM, HeavyTank wrote: what l am trying to say is that if you say something l say while you say something that l already said you say the same thing twice.
I say, l said a lot of stuff...

But what if what you said and are saying a two different things???

?????

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At 2/28/09 02:38 PM, DeathNoteetoNhtaeD wrote: But what if what you said and are saying a two different things???
?????

Then the world will explode

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At 2/26/09 02:19 PM, HeavyTank wrote:
At 2/26/09 11:31 AM, sirtom93 wrote:
I have a queery, Anglo-Saxon is the coming together of the Angles and the Saxon German tribes, so how did "Angle" turn into "Anglo"?
it sounded better.

While Wikipedia has this to say -

The term "Anglo-Saxon" comes from writings going back to the time of King Alfred the Great, who seems to have frequently used the title rex Anglorum Saxonum or rex Angul-Saxonum (king of the English Saxons).

The Old English terms ænglisc and Angelcynn ("Angle-kin", gens Anglorum) when they are first attested had already lost their original sense of referring to the Angles to the exclusion of the Saxons, and in their earliest recorded sense refers to the nation of Germanic peoples who settled England in and after the 5th century.

The indigenous British people, who wrote in both Latin and Celtic, referred to these invaders as Saxones, Saeson -- the latter is still used today in the Welsh word for 'English' people. -- or Sassenach as still used in Scotland and Ireland.

The term Angli Saxones seems to have first been used in continental writing nearly a century before Alfred's time by Paul the Deacon, historian of the Lombards, probably to distinguish the English Saxons from the continental Saxons.

There is a theory that the name of the Angles came from the Germanic and Indo-European root ang- = "narrow", i.e. "the people who live by the Narrow Water (i.e. the Schlei inlet)".

- I like your explanation better.


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Most interesting indeed. I have been reading recently of Ægir, it does mention someone else as God of the sea so I'm a bit confused on this matter, although it is very interesting. Also Rán is referred to twice in different sections, one as being a sea Goddess and another of death, I'm assuming she is the Goddess of people who die at sea :3

Also what was up with with Tyr and Thor breaking in and demanding mead XD

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Hey, can I join the Viking Army? I'm already a member of the Greek Mythology Club and I'm quite knowledgeable in Norse, Greek, and Roman mythology.

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At 3/1/09 05:16 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: Hey, can I join the Viking Army? I'm already a member of the Greek Mythology Club and I'm quite knowledgeable in Norse, Greek, and Roman mythology.

Always good to have a varied knowledge base, welcome to the army.

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Thanks guys. Can be Loki?

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At 3/1/09 05:45 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: Thanks guys. Can be Loki?

No you can not be Loki XD Nor can any of us pretend to be Gods.

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yeesh, just thought I'd have a little fun, besides I know that Loki fathered Fenrir, Jormungand the Midgard Serpent, and Hel.

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Hey, check this out:

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg270 /collins586/lokimedia-1.gif

in this order they are:

Loki
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Loki God of Mischief (Jurassic Park styled text)

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At 3/1/09 04:58 PM, sirtom93 wrote: Most interesting indeed. I have been reading recently of Ægir, it does mention someone else as God of the sea so I'm a bit confused on this matter, although it is very interesting. Also Rán is referred to twice in different sections, one as being a sea Goddess and another of death, I'm assuming she is the Goddess of people who die at sea :3

Also what was up with with Tyr and Thor breaking in and demanding mead XD
At 3/1/09 04:58 PM, sirtom93 wrote: Most interesting indeed. I have been reading recently of Ægir, it does mention someone else as God of the sea so I'm a bit confused on this matter, although it is very interesting. Also Rán is referred to twice in different sections, one as being a sea Goddess and another of death, I'm assuming she is the Goddess of people who die at sea :3

Also what was up with with Tyr and Thor breaking in and demanding mead XD

I'm assuming you've been reading Lokasenna, where Loki crashes a party in Ægir's/Ägir's hall and starts to insult everybody. It's a very special piece since it is the single reference to several myths supposedly well known myths.

Ægir/Ägir was the god of the seas, he was married to Ran (who's name can be translated as robber or robbery). She and her daughters were the waves. So Ran was the killer of sailors and the sinker of ships. So sirtom93 in my opinion you assumed right.

But if I remember right it was only Tor who came later on, having been out killing trolls or something, and tried to shut Loke up by demanding they drink instead of fight.


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At 3/1/09 05:16 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: Hey, can I join the Viking Army? I'm already a member of the Greek Mythology Club and I'm quite knowledgeable in Norse, Greek, and Roman mythology.

yeah l think this crew is more about general mythology than viking history after all so we should rename it to "mythology club" or something :P
wait..did you say greek mythology club?
where?


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Loki was Ægir's brother yes? The myths seems very nonsensical at times, like Tyr's grandmother who had over 900 heads, I find this amount of heads hard to imagine.


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At 3/2/09 01:02 PM, Rih wrote: Loki was Ægir's brother yes? The myths seems very nonsensical at times, like Tyr's grandmother who had over 900 heads, I find this amount of heads hard to imagine.

I also read about that, it said his Tyr's first mother was very beautiful though, don't know what was going on there :/

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At 3/2/09 01:03 PM, sirtom93 wrote:
I also read about that, it said his Tyr's first mother was very beautiful though, don't know what was going on there :/

hey, what do you mean by "I don't know what was going on there"?


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At 3/2/09 01:48 PM, HeavyTank wrote:
At 3/2/09 01:03 PM, sirtom93 wrote:
I also read about that, it said his Tyr's first mother was very beautiful though, don't know what was going on there :/
hey, what do you mean by "I don't know what was going on there"?

The fact his grandmother had 900 heads and not one of these traits was inherited by his mother or him.


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At 3/2/09 03:54 PM, Rih wrote:
At 3/2/09 01:48 PM, HeavyTank wrote:
At 3/2/09 01:03 PM, sirtom93 wrote:
I also read about that, it said his Tyr's first mother was very beautiful though, don't know what was going on there :/
hey, what do you mean by "I don't know what was going on there"?
The fact his grandmother had 900 heads and not one of these traits was inherited by his mother or him.

Not so much that, more the occurrence of his grandmother and mother was very random and didn't seem to make sense in the story... but yeah, that aswell :/

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At 3/2/09 03:56 PM, sirtom93 wrote:
Not so much that, more the occurrence of his grandmother and mother was very random and didn't seem to make sense in the story... but yeah, that aswell :/

oh ok


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At 3/2/09 01:02 PM, Rih wrote: Loki was Ægir's brother yes?

No, but both are of giant kin.

The myths seems very nonsensical at times, like Tyr's grandmother who had over 900 heads, I find this amount of heads hard to imagine.

I think the old woman is referred to only as an old giantess, and those could be seriously big, remember the whole world was created from the body of the giant Ymir. Still she could be Tyr's grandmother. You also have to be aware of the fact that the number 9 a very holy or fateful number in Norse myths. So with 900 heads she is a very mythological important character, whose importance have been lost to us.


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That is interesting, did non giants conceive giants then?

I would like to join if that is alright.


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At 3/3/09 12:14 PM, Rih wrote: That is interesting, did non giants conceive giants then?

I'm not entirely sure, I will have to read the stories in more detail.


I would like to join if that is alright.

That is indeed alright.

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At 3/3/09 12:14 PM, Rih wrote: That is interesting, did non giants conceive giants then?

Well, giants conceives giants and other mythological beings, including gods. There seems to be little or no logic in this. Perhaps the reference of giant, was more towards a person coming from an are, rather than being of a race. For example during the Viking Age the area known as Bjarmaland (Northern Russia around the White Sea), were "known" to be full of monsters and giants of all kinds. The people living there, the bjarm, were nomadic hunters probably dressed in skins, probably looking quite scary, but still human, and after a few months of sailing their women must've looked pretty good to the Vikings.

In the Norse myths there are several stories about beautiful giantesses, we have seen Tyr's mother, there is also the story of Frey trading his sword for the hand of the giantess Gerd in marriage (a sword he will sorely miss when Ragnarök comes).


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hey vdviking, what does your BBS signature mean?


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At 3/5/09 12:30 AM, HeavyTank wrote: hey vdviking, what does your BBS signature mean?

It simply says V D VIKING, in old Germanic runes.


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Has anyone heard about the story called "The Song of Rig" if not, get back to me on the thread and I'll tell ya. ^_^

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At 3/5/09 05:48 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: Has anyone heard about the story called "The Song of Rig" if not, get back to me on the thread and I'll tell ya. ^_^

Rigsthula is considered as very important by historians as it contains a lot of information about 10th century Norse society. The name Rig is (some say) another name of Heimdall, and comes from early Germanic "reiks" also "rik" meaning ruler viz. Alarik - ruler of all or Friederik - ruler in peace.


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