At 9/16/08 03:54 PM, Musician wrote:
You have no substantial reason not to believe Obama wont implement his proposed tax plan.
I do because he's a democrat and when he realizes how fucked up spending is, he will raise taxes.
Wrong. Obama has never been opposed to nuclear power.
Don't be an idiot.
Fist off, that only proves my point that he is too scared to state his own specific plan or his own stance on virtually any controversial issue.
Secondly, you linked to a blog with someone else's analysis of what Obama specifically said to prove he never said he is against it.
Third, he has stated that he is against building nuclear power plants because "it's not change", "it creates waste", and "not what America needs" when I saw him at the Kohl Center in Madison. Straight from his mouth.
Fourth, if Obama last year said he does not oppose it, yet doesn't state that he favors it, but then states he opposes it, then goes back to his original beating the bush on his stance, then yes, he FLIP-FLOPPED.
Fifth, I've heard him in other speeches mention that Nuclear is not the way to go, he is not a fan/proponent of nuclear. (etc)
What do you make of that?
Linking to his current stance and one of his previous stances cannot refute what he said between those points. Maybe he blurted something out by mistake and no one cared because he was speaking at a College, but he still said it.
You're talking about his statement on Jerusalem remaining a part of Isreal. First of all, that's incredibly minor.
Thats insensitive to those living there.
Secondly, it's smart for him to allow Jerusalem to be negotiated over, seeing as it's a center piece.
Maybe we should talk about giving California and Texas back to Mexico, since it's a center piece.
Third, all he meant by his statement that Jerusalem will remain undivided is that it wont return to its previous state, being divided by barbed wire, as it was before 1967.
Do you know what he said? It was more than Jerusalem that he backtracked on.
Taxes-He has a new tax policy every 2 weeks. Raising corporate taxes, lowering corporate taxes, only tax windfall profits, raising capital gains, lowering them if you're a small business, tax the rich, tax the rich then give cuts to the poor and middle class, only give cuts to middle class who pay a certain amount.
Wrong. Obama's tax plans have been the same since he announced in 2007.
Do you follow Obama's campaign?
- He's called for and reversed his specifics on how much tax increases/decreases will occur on the rich and poor. Your link doesn't show his "bracket plans"
- He's said lowering corporate taxes are more of the same and the wrong direction for America, yet he's stated that American companies cannot compete and corporate taxes should be lowered
- He states that the rich will pay their fair share, then he states he will not raise taxes for them if the economy sucked
- He changed his capital gains tax position, being for raising them to the upper 20 percent range, then when he found out what the capital gains tax was, he said he would raise them to about 18%, then stated he'd lower them, then stated he'd lower them for start-ups.
He's all over the place with taxes.
Wrong. Obama has never been opposed to abortion and even voted against the ban on partial-birth abortion in 2007.
-2003 Born-Alive abortions
-2005 Stated he was not Pro-Choice
Since then, he's been in favor of abortion, so 2007 and today will fall in line with each other.
Conservatives have to skew because the facts are too liberally biased :)
Yet you don't see Obama just as much a flip-flopper than McCain, moreso if you only count important policies.
