There is no Iraq War

[Twerpo]

I'm sick and tired of everyone saying that there is an Iraq "war". Whenver people talk about Iraq, it's the "War in Iraq". Newsflash, there is no war.

I'm not saying that the war never existed. No, there most definitely was a war. The thing is, the wars over. We went into their country, we destroyed their military, captured their ruler and set up a new government. If there ever was a more clear definition of winning a war, I haven't seen it. What we currently have is an occupation. We are occupying Iraq. There is no major battles going on, no war. We are fighting insurgents, yes, but it is not a war.

We won. End of story. Now smarten up and stop calling it a war.

[MultiCanimefan]

It's the "War on Terror", the definition of which now has stretch marks.

[KidneyThief]

At 9/13/08 09:27 PM, MultiCanimefan wrote: It's the "War on Terror", the definition of which now has stretch marks.

Lots of them. Mr. Hussien was completely irrelevant to the war on terror. So the Iraq war was a part of the war on terror.. except of course, it wasn't.

[aviewaskewed]

At 9/13/08 09:31 PM, stranger14 wrote: Lots of them. Mr. Hussien was completely irrelevant to the war on terror. So the Iraq war was a part of the war on terror.. except of course, it wasn't.

Nonetheless, he is right. The "war" part is pretty much over, we're now in an occuptation phase. A horribly run, threshing machine of an occuptation...propped up by us paying people not to shoot at each other. But as a war? Yes, we did beat the enemy we went in to beat...we just screwed up everything after that point, and we screwed up by going in there in the first place because there was no reason to other then the dumb ass idea of creating a successful middle east occupation point.

[MortifiedPenguins]

So, in reality your just bitching because people aren't using the correct definations, even though the same results are being achieved of both.

Loss of life is registered with each word you use, and the status of government is likewise.

All your doing is arguing semantics.

[MultiCanimefan]

At 9/14/08 12:21 AM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

All your doing is arguing semantics.

No, definitions and the distinctions between them are important

[Twerpo]

At 9/14/08 12:21 AM, MortifiedPenguins wrote: So, in reality your just bitching because people aren't using the correct definations, even though the same results are being achieved of both.

Loss of life is registered with each word you use, and the status of government is likewise.

All your doing is arguing semantics.

Semantics seem to be the only thing that matters in american politics. And besides, once we start calling it an occupation the Republicans can no longer bitch about us losing the war if we pull out.

[MortifiedPenguins]

At 9/14/08 12:47 AM, Twerpo wrote:

At 9/14/08 12:21 AM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

Semantics seem to be the only thing that matters in american politics. And besides, once we start calling it an occupation the Republicans can no longer bitch about us losing the war if we pull out.

They could simply change it to us losing the mission in Iraq, or simply change it to whatever definition that they deem appropriate.

Really, it's not like I don't care but it's semantics. All your doing is just putting one similar noun in the place of another noun but leaving the rest of the sentence the same.

[XaosLegend]

Youre right, correctly it should be called: The occupation.

[NeverHundred]

At 9/14/08 07:06 PM, XaosLegend wrote: Youre right, correctly it should be called: The occupation.

Of course "occupation" it's such an ugly word. "War" on the other hand, that has real potential! It gives us a real purpose, unlike an occupation... occupations, sounds like something that could drag on, which it will! But... that's not what the people want to hear. We don't want to sound like we aren't welcomed there, which an occupation would imply.

Politicians love words, and they will use the words that sound the best in order to get what they want.

[Memorize]

Guess what happend after World War 2...

We had an Occupation that lasted over a decade.

[Saruman200]

Yah, really we're in the "occupation" stage. It doesn't really change the issue though...

[XaosLegend]

ahaha I've changed the tone of the thread gg :"There is no Iraq War", You Say?

[XaosLegend]

Occ you pa tion sing it with me now
okupashun hwuah

is it just my imagination
or are we conducting and occupation?

[Eoewe]

Definitions of war on the Web:

* the waging of armed conflict against an enemy; "thousands of people were killed in the war"
* a legal state created by a declaration of war and ended by official declaration during which the international rules of war apply; "war was declared in November but actual fighting did not begin until the following spring"
* an active struggle between competing entities; "a price war"; "a war of wits"; "diplomatic warfare"
* a concerted campaign to end something that is injurious; "the war on poverty"; "the war against crime"
* make or wage war
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

[Cuppa-LettuceNog]

War:
2 a: a state of hostility, conflict, or antagonism

Right. Theres no Iraq War.

Just a war that happens to be in Iraq, involving Iraq, and fought over... Iraq.