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At 8/24/08 01:28 PM, neogeo57 wrote:

At 8/23/08 01:28 AM, JMHX wrote:

Andalso, John mccain is more american then him. Refused to get out early in a war-camp when he had the chance. Adopted babies that mother Therisa told his wife to do.

John McCain wouldn't have had to stay in a torture cell had he been a good enough pilot not to get shot down, the kind of ace pilot Joe Biden probably would be.

At 8/24/08 05:10 AM, RadioactiveRabbit wrote: Because his retarded followers mindlessly voted for the black guy with the shiny smile.
If you're saying experience means nothing....wow, then you shouldn't be voting.
And people wonder why Obama is criticized for his celebrity status.

Experience DOES mean absolutely nothing; there is nothing in the whole world that could possibly prepare a person for the presidency, despite what some people would have you believe.

Abraham Lincoln -- He served:
- Eight years in the Illinois state legislature
- Two years in the United States House of Representatives.

That's 10 years of "experience".

Barack Obama -- He spent:
- Seven years on the Illinois state legislature
- Three years in the United States Senate.

Again, 10 years of "experience".

There are few Republicans or Democrats who would deny that Abraham Lincoln was among the best presidents this nation has ever fielded.

At 8/24/08 01:31 PM, neogeo57 wrote: And also, don't use the lame "John mcain divorced his wife" shit since Joe biden did that too.

Biden's wife DIED, along with his young daughter shortly after he was elected to the senate in 1972.

McCain's first wife Carol IS STILL ALIVE, but was disfigured in a car crash in 1969. McCain then participated in extramarital affairs, and left his semi-crippled wife for a millionaire beer dynasty heiress who was 17 years younger than him.

I'd say that's a bit of a difference.

At 8/23/08 01:28 AM, JMHX wrote: Don't even deny your next Vice President. Middle-class guy from a middle-class family gets his law degree, works on the city council, then runs for U.S. Senate. Pure fucking Americana. Makes you cry red white and blue.

Joe Biden eats America for breakfast and shits out union jobs. How can you not vote for him? Hell, he's served in the Senate longer than McCain! The guy could probably bench-press that pockmarked old codger. You want Russia dealt with? Ol' Joe will strap on the boots and plow some rectum.

Just look at this picture, he's out there making points and using his sagely oldness to inform the youngins. Look at his pose, it says "Fuck, sure I'll be your Vice President, I'm the Michael Phelps of foreign policy. I've got nothing to do, except be uber-American. I will do you the HONOR of fixing this country."

God, Joe Biden, I'm stiff as a fucking plank of all-American timber Biden used to build his log fucking cabin.

Don't get too excited about Biden. After all, he is Obama's number 2. What trully counts is what Obama really intends to do, overall.

I don't really agree with that "rich" or "not rich" rhetoric that Biden has taken on, though. What trully defines rich?

1k dollars? 10k dollars? 100k dollars? One million dollars? Three million dollars? At which point someone is not rich and when is someone rich?

Someone living in a penthouse might be richer than someone living in an average apartment. The person living in the average apartment may be richer than someone living in an ultra tiny apartment. (Depends where, also). Maybe someone living in a house is richer than someone living in an average apartment, or maybe not. It all depends. Mayeb they are all richer than someone living in a trailer camp. But the person living in the trailer camp is richer than those who are homeless. So, people, what defines rich, and what defines not rich?

OK, McCain has several houses, so? Is that a crime?

If this is how we are going to judge politicians, maybe we should check out how many houses Bush has got, Clinton, Jimmy Carter, John Edwards, Huckabee, Nader, Obama, Condoleeza Rice, and so on.
Hell, some middle class Americans even got two homes. i.e. main home, and then lake/beach/mountain home.

So, don't start this rich vs poor bullcrap, because someone poorer than you may end up seeing you as an enemy as well.

At 8/24/08 08:55 PM, RadioactiveRabbit wrote: Lincoln did things worth nothing in that period of time.

Like what? Give some examples.

What great bill has Obama put forth?

None, like honest Abe.
:Where is the giant statue displaying some great achievement he's accomplished in his lifetime?

Dur.....the statue came up after Lincoln was dead.

Oh yeah, hes black. That counts.

Please, let's not bring that up.

What I find quite funny is that people are willing to compare Obama to one of the greatest Presidents of all time who had to deal with an acutal crisis that would make anything now a days look like childsplay. Apparently humility is not a popular virtue any more.

And the fact that Obama is prostituting whatever meaningfull symbols and memoires of Lincoln that we know for his own political gain just goes right along with that. I swear to god his next step is going to be living in a log cabin for all of november until the election.

TBH lincoln was pretty unscrupulous, and IMO. And it's entirely possible that obama could be less of a jerk than Lincoln was. Suspending Habeas Corpus and putting political dissidents in jail. As well as Ordering attacks on Civilian targets in order to win the civil war. And don't quote me on this, but i'm fairly certain that Lincoln did not beleive whites had equal status with blacks, he only opposed slavery. At hindsight, Lincolns godliness seems about as inflated as Obama's saintlyhood.

It helps that Joe Biden bench presses terrorists in the morning.

At 8/24/08 11:22 PM, JMHX wrote: It helps that Joe Biden bench presses terrorists in the morning.

He eats them for breakfast in the morning as well.

Without any milk. That's FUCKING RAW.

At 8/24/08 10:13 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: TBH lincoln was pretty unscrupulous, and IMO. And it's entirely possible that obama could be less of a jerk than Lincoln was. Suspending Habeas Corpus and putting political dissidents in jail. As well as Ordering attacks on Civilian targets in order to win the civil war. And don't quote me on this, but i'm fairly certain that Lincoln did not beleive whites had equal status with blacks, he only opposed slavery. At hindsight, Lincolns godliness seems about as inflated as Obama's saintlyhood.

Actually, to be fair one point: Lincoln did have the constitutional right to supsend Habeus corpus.

But still the point still stands, how low of a sense of humility does one have to do this crap. I mean, it would be the equal of McCain going up in a powdered wig or wooden teeth.

At 8/24/08 11:36 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

At 8/24/08 10:13 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: TBH lincoln was pretty unscrupulous, and IMO. And it's entirely possible that obama could be less of a jerk than Lincoln was. Suspending Habeas Corpus and putting political dissidents in jail. As well as Ordering attacks on Civilian targets in order to win the civil war. And don't quote me on this, but i'm fairly certain that Lincoln did not beleive whites had equal status with blacks, he only opposed slavery. At hindsight, Lincolns godliness seems about as inflated as Obama's saintlyhood.

Actually, to be fair one point: Lincoln did have the constitutional right to supsend Habeus corpus.

But still the point still stands, how low of a sense of humility does one have to do this crap. I mean, it would be the equal of McCain going up in a powdered wig or wooden teeth.

Policy, Accomplishments, and Voting record are no longer the standard by which presidents are elected. Eitherwise i doubt either Mccain or Obama would have made it this far. Obama has to keep up a riddiculous facade of messianic glory while mccain and talk radio runs a smear campaign o obama being the most liberal american hating terrorist black nationalist and unapologetic christian because neither of these men have any redeeming qualities.

In Pashto, "Joe Biden" means "Bringer of Asskicking"

Fuck, last night I was running away from the police after doing lots of un-American and thoroughly unnacceptablu unpatriotic things, and I tripped over something and fell to the ground. I had hit my head in the fall, and upon bringing my hand up to see if I was bleeding I couldn't help but notice a newspaper to the left of me. I wasn't able to read it clearly, but soon enough after the police kicked my face into the ground I was able to get a clear picture of it. Who was it to save me but none other than Joe fucking Biden. Well, it was actually Hillary Clinton, but then I realized that she isn't going to be vice president and I suddenly had a heel click of patriotism of such a magnitude that Joe Biden appeared on the spot, pardoned me (the cops tried to explain that he didn't have that power but he was too busy throwing all the DVD's from the John Wayne collector's edition box set at them to notice), and we both rode our horses into the sunset.

I had thought that blind patriotism and insistent fighting of terrorists were neoconservative elements, not 'joe biden' elements.

joe biden can be anything that's why he's such a great pick.

He's like picasso.

At 8/26/08 10:26 PM, NickDaPwner wrote: both obama and biden plagerize speeches

nice combo

cant wait to see how everything turns out

where might these copied speeches be copied from? Sources?

We get it, you like Joe Biden.

At 8/26/08 10:26 PM, NickDaPwner wrote: both obama and biden plagerize speeches

nice combo

cant wait to see how everything turns out

Everyone plagiarizes speeches, intentionally and unintentionally. When you hear something you like, you tend to use it, whether you know it or not. Not to mention the fact that nobody writes their own speeches. It is incredibly rare for a politician to actually hand-write their own speech, much less a presidential candidate.

You're basically making yourself look like an asshole for grasping at straws. Nobody in the political world gives a shit about what bits of who's speeches you use outside of using that to influence stupid people like you.

At 8/23/08 05:59 AM, ForkRobotik wrote: joe biden supported bombing the democratically elected government of serbia into submission in the 90's, for that i can only give him one giant wag of the finger. Also, i'm still waiting for figures on the genocide in kosovo that was supposed to have happened.

Uh, yeah man. It never happened. You should have a tea party with Mamoud, and give lectures at Israeli universities on how The Holocaust never happened, because eye witness accounts, and easily accessible internet photos of mass graves are just too damn easy for you--if it's that easy to call it a holocaust... well then I guess it can't be! Conspiracy-thumping antagonizer... god damn.

Oh and the final say on whether you can do whatever you want as a government is if you are democratically elected. Don't touch bush, argue with him, or prevent a genocide to occur with the Iraqi people because he was democratically elected. Don't tell him he's wrong. He was democratically elected.

SPIN IT BABY. I can play that game too. It's hella hard.

At 8/28/08 01:15 PM, Battl3Mast3r wrote: Uh, yeah man. It never happened. You should have a tea party with Mamoud, and give lectures at Israeli universities on how The Holocaust never happened, because eye witness accounts, and easily accessible internet photos of mass graves are just too damn easy for you--if it's that easy to call it a holocaust... well then I guess it can't be! Conspiracy-thumping antagonizer... god damn.

You're aware that Kosovo isn't Israel, right? Not all genocide refers to the holocaust. Go ahead and take another crack at that, ace.

At 8/28/08 02:44 PM, Gunter45 wrote:

At 8/28/08 01:15 PM, Battl3Mast3r wrote: Uh, yeah man. It never happened. You should have a tea party with Mamoud, and give lectures at Israeli universities on how The Holocaust never happened, because eye witness accounts, and easily accessible internet photos of mass graves are just too damn easy for you--if it's that easy to call it a holocaust... well then I guess it can't be! Conspiracy-thumping antagonizer... god damn.

You're aware that Kosovo isn't Israel, right? Not all genocide refers to the holocaust. Go ahead and take another crack at that, ace.

You nailed my typo right on the head. Meant to say "that" holocaust. A holocaust is a type of event that involves mass slaughter and often genocide--it isn't just reserved for that which happened during WW2, although it is appropriate (for the lack of a better word) to reserve as such. You're aware there is different variations and contexts of the word holocaust, right? Ace.

At 8/28/08 03:44 PM, Battl3Mast3r wrote: You nailed my typo right on the head. Meant to say "that" holocaust. A holocaust is a type of event that involves mass slaughter and often genocide--it isn't just reserved for that which happened during WW2, although it is appropriate (for the lack of a better word) to reserve as such. You're aware there is different variations and contexts of the word holocaust, right? Ace.

Not really a typo when your entire post addresses an entirely different historical event. Also mistaking "that" for "the" and then capitalizing "holocaust" doesn't really scream typo to me.

So, you want to try again, skippy?

At 8/28/08 05:14 PM, Gunter45 wrote:

At 8/28/08 03:44 PM, Battl3Mast3r wrote: You nailed my typo right on the head. Meant to say "that" holocaust. A holocaust is a type of event that involves mass slaughter and often genocide--it isn't just reserved for that which happened during WW2, although it is appropriate (for the lack of a better word) to reserve as such. You're aware there is different variations and contexts of the word holocaust, right? Ace.

Not really a typo when your entire post addresses an entirely different historical event. Also mistaking "that" for "the" and then capitalizing "holocaust" doesn't really scream typo to me.

So, you want to try again, skippy?

Actually I was making the connection between the lack of acceptance between Mahmoud Ahmadeenajad (sp?) denouncing the Holocaust and the genocide in Kosovo. Actually two historical events. You're right, I must had confused the terms holocaust and The Holocaust. I think it's pretty reasonable that my brain dithered the two. Relax. We can play semantics all day.