At 11/9/03 10:32 PM, biteme2514 wrote:
The problem I find with people criticising Moore ( and I just read all the bowling for Columbine topics) is that they try and find where Michael Moore "mislead" them ( and he doesn't even do it!!! he just presents the movie like a commericial, aimed at making you buuy his product, he doesn't lie in it, like they all pretend he does) instead of trying to fins where he raised real issues and how they commute with violence and fear in america. I mean, who gives a shit if he didn't report the entirety of Heston's speach? You can clearly see the man loves his guns A LOT.
Instead of blaming the uncle for being irresponsible enough to just leave a deadly weapon lying around, he implies that the government is at fault because of the "Welfare To Work" program that keeps the 6-year old's mother away from home all the time.
Well, did you ever stop to wonder if the program was actually any good? I mean, what I got from that, is that this IS a pretty fucking retarded program. Jeez, drive 50 miles to go to work? For like almost minimum wage? How's that helping anyone? they'd be better off welfare.
I won't say that the guy wasn't an irresponsible fuck, I'm saying the woman didn't have a choice but to leave her kid in the hands of said fuck. That's what the movie shows you.
society's now craving information so much from the media that they never question it or ask for a deeper explanation.
Wow there, he never says "craving for information". Ever. He says that the people are too dumb to wonder if what they are told by their governement is true, and that they'll believe anything just because the president said so. Which I am not saying is true at all, its just what Moore said.
Basically, he blames the media for handing out crapformation instead of information, and keeping everyon in fear of random things that will never happen, so they agree with every decision that there president makes. Which I think is pretty true to some point. Everybody ( who doesn't live in the U.S.) KNOWS that CNN and FOX news are shitty and biaised.
Moore constantly implies that the government is at fault for everything and that is simply not true.
He SO doesn't at all. He's just saying that the media misinforms people and that the government does whatever the fuck it wants, wether it be good or bad.
Now, can anyone DENY the fact that Clinton made that speech about how incredibely tragic columbine was, while he seemingly didn't give a shit that very same morning when his forces bombed the shit out of some hospital?
I'd say that in fact, only maybe 20-30% of that movie is biaised/arranged, and that the rest is pretty much all true, and that is should make americains ( moslty) ask themselves questions. The people who discredit Michael Moore think that by proving him wrong once or twice, they prove him wrong forever.
But yeah, he IS an hypocrite. So what? Does that make him wrong? If I say "canadians are way too rich, we should give out money" but I actually don't give a penny, that doesn't make me wrong, just a hypocrite.