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At 8/10/08 08:01 PM, Lorkas wrote: C'mon! Everyone's equal, how bad can that be? Yeah yeah there are some minuses, but I bet it's an equal number. You know what that means? Yes, two minuses make a plus! Two hitlers make a Lenin! Two Stalins make an Obama!

Why is communism bad? Why? Because it's not lol.

communism isnt a "Bad" idea it really a good one but its just the way its inforced + it kinda makes every one the same No relgion, no free thinking In communism were like ants we all get paid the same we all live the same and we all protect the leader thats why its a bad lorkas

At 9/20/09 11:53 AM, Daveatwar wrote:

At 8/10/08 08:01 PM, Lorkas wrote: C'mon! Everyone's equal, how bad can that be? Yeah yeah there are some minuses, but I bet it's an equal number. You know what that means? Yes, two minuses make a plus! Two hitlers make a Lenin! Two Stalins make an Obama!

Why is communism bad? Why? Because it's not lol.

communism isnt a "Bad" idea it really a good one but its just the way its inforced + it kinda makes every one the same No relgion, no free thinking In communism were like ants we all get paid the same we all live the same and we all protect the leader thats why its a bad lorkas

Again, no religion and no free thinking is not Communism, that is totalitarian government. You also don't really need government control for brainwashing, government control doesn't do jackshit to convince people how to think, propaganda on the other hand, well IIRC the US was rated as the biggest collection of Propaganda during the Cold War.

it sucks because it doesent work
why is America the best country again?

well i think we aren't communists

Communism represents a controlled soceity. Capitalistic democracies represent free society.

Communsim is slavery.

At 10/17/09 03:29 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: Communism represents a controlled soceity. Capitalistic democracies represent free society.

Communsim is slavery.

Communism represents a stateless, classless, worker-controlled society. Capitalistic "democracies" represent exploitation, murder, war, imperialism, genocide, starvation, poverty, violence, misery, injustice, brutality, and inequality.

Capitalism is wage labor, is slavery.

I don't believe there is any good system of government since they all fail one time or another. We really do not live in a perfect world. However communism is not high on my list.

Marx thought that humans had a natural working spirit and it wouldn't matter if you gave them all they needed. Enforcing rules on the other hand sort of ruin the freedom of choice. That is sort of the price you pay with freedom. Now I personally will sit at home and play video games if I knew I didn't have to.

China had a nice decision on video games recently. Keeping it to themselves.... bastards. Helping themselves instead of giving it to others.

You normally have to join them or they won't share with you. I think that is just plain evil like most popularity groups.

At 10/17/09 05:16 PM, Kev-o wrote: Capitalism is wage labor, is slavery.

you either work for what you need or work for money to pay for what you need. sounds like slavery is inescapable.

At 10/17/09 06:43 PM, Tankdown wrote: Marx thought that humans had a natural working spirit and it wouldn't matter if you gave them all they needed

... Source?

At 10/17/09 03:29 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: Communism represents a controlled soceity. Capitalistic democracies represent free society.

I like to see that you have really profound mental processes.

At 10/17/09 03:01 AM, NummyBBQ wrote: it sucks because it doesent work
why is America the best country again?

well i think we aren't communists

Your not the best country, your healthcare is behind and sucks in comparison to your buddies Germany and France, hardly any of your cities make it to the best places to live in lists, you constantly butt your head into other people's business, you have the highest obesity rate in the world, your European and Asian buddies have already made it out of the Recession, while your still falling behind, and your history is boring as hell.

At 10/18/09 01:44 AM, Warforger wrote: Your not the best country,

I'm not even American and I still think it's the bets country in the world.

name a single country that is better.

Because what anti-American dweebs like yourself seem to do is compare qualities of America to many different countries. I mean sure, America might struggle to be the greatest when you face it against the best parts of every other country in the world, but on a singl nation basis, there's no one to compare it to.

your healthcare is behind and sucks in comparison to your buddies Germany and France,

what do you mean by 'healthcare'?

If you're talking quality I think you'll find America is up there with the best.

hardly any of your cities make it to the best places to live in lists,

Firstly, the whole is greater than the sum of its parts ie. more to a country than individual cities.

Secondly, the cities that make it to the top of the list are from various different countries, not one country to which you can compare America with.

you constantly butt your head into other people's business,

Yeah I'm sure that the millions of people that have been saved by US intervention agree with you.

you have the highest obesity rate in the world, your European and Asian buddies have already made it out of the Recession,

Perhaps because they're not the largest economies in the world.

And also because they don't have Obama for a president.

and your history is boring as hell.

Means NOTHING in terms of how good a country is.

Quite frankly, I am impressed. Many people in here seem to have some similar political views as I, yet not as a whole.

I am going to declare independence from this article's ignorant posters on the grounds of the following grievances:
1: You have spell-check if you have Firefox and not having either is just impractical.
2: Ignorant claims that Communism is NOT the supreme system.
3: Impulsive posts driven by emotion, not logic.

Now time to explain myself, First off, Communism has been around for a very long time, the concept was not looked down upon at first until the 1950's American propaganda driven Red Scare. Communism IS the supreme system to live by, the concept of equality is shere genius, no one can complain if there is no jealousy to invoke emotions toward one another. However, communism, like many unmastered practices in the world today, is not applicable to society today. The average person is too primitive to swallow their pride and accept that, "..with great gain, comes great sacrifice."

Communism is most easily compared to having a really hot sister. Just put yourself in that situation and you know what to think.

And for all you people out there that think, "I want to live a great life and really have some nice possessions." Just contemplate on this next passage...

In today's world what do you do to get great things and do great things?
You work hard.

In a commune, you would work harder to make someone else's life better, if you are driven to do this, others will return the compliment as evenly by returning their work. Communism is not an issue that is worth arguing over, just like religion vs. atheism. No one wins, someone just comes out looking like a bigger idiot than the other. Agnostics FTW, "Preach the word of 'I don't know!'" - Bill Maher

I literally signed up to Newgrounds to post that last bit, but don't worry I have plans otherwise.

Oh and America is not perfect, and no country deserves the title of "the best"

However, whatever country you are representing, I can GUARANTEE, We have more nukes than you so if war broke out, I think I know what country would be left standing. But to kill all else is committing suicide as is because of trade connections. The U.S.A. largely depends on other nations to operate, which quiets my mind because the world's interaction is like a big communism among countries instead of people. And war? War is when some guy misses work and causes a couple million people to miss lunch. :)

Think about it on paper communism is an amazing system of equality. Sadly it is in Human nature to be greedy and feel bigger than your neigbor leading to you making him poorer. Communism does work, Just not with humans.

At 10/17/09 07:58 PM, SolInvictus wrote:

At 10/17/09 05:16 PM, Kev-o wrote: Capitalism is wage labor, is slavery.

you either work for what you need or work for money to pay for what you need. sounds like slavery is inescapable.

Except for the part where you wouldn't be driven by bosses or managers, nor would you need to work for more than four hours a day.

At 10/18/09 01:54 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

At 10/18/09 01:44 AM, Warforger wrote: Your not the best country,

I'm not even American and I still think it's the bets country in the world.

name a single country that is better.

Germany, France, Russia and China

At 10/18/09 01:54 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: Because what anti-American dweebs like yourself seem to do is compare qualities of America to many different countries. I mean sure, America might struggle to be the greatest when you face it against the best parts of every other country in the world, but on a singl nation basis, there's no one to compare it to.

Dude, I'm not anti-American, I live in it, but I will react when someone calls America the best country in the world, because its not.

At 10/18/09 01:54 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

your healthcare is behind and sucks in comparison to your buddies Germany and France,

what do you mean by 'healthcare'?

If you're talking quality I think you'll find America is up there with the best.

In the last study for the rating of nations worldwide for there healthcare, the US didn't make it into the top 10, or top 20, or top 30 but barely made to the top 40, at 36th place right below Venezuela. France was 1st and Germany was 5th, oh and they have socialized healthcare.

hardly any of your cities make it to the best places to live in lists,

Firstly, the whole is greater than the sum of its parts ie. more to a country than individual cities.

Secondly, the cities that make it to the top of the list are from various different countries, not one country to which you can compare America with.

Yes, but if you were the best place to live in then you'd think you would be scoring higher.

you constantly butt your head into other people's business,

Yeah I'm sure that the millions of people that have been saved by US intervention agree with you.

Like who? Didn't we also kill those same people? At least when Russia freed people they didn't occupy them and piss the people they freed off (I'm talking about Imperial Russia)

you have the highest obesity rate in the world, your European and Asian buddies have already made it out of the Recession,

Perhaps because they're not the largest economies in the world.

And also because they don't have Obama for a president.

On the Contrary, Germany has one of the largest economies in the world.

Pointing out flaws and criticizing certain aspects of country A does not make you anti-country A. We still can't get this shit through our skulls?

At 10/18/09 02:19 PM, MultiCanimefan wrote: Pointing out flaws and criticizing certain aspects of country A does not make you anti-country A. We still can't get this shit through our skulls?

Read. All I said was that it wasn't the best country on the Earth.

At 10/18/09 04:36 AM, MichaelLee93 wrote: War is when some guy misses work and causes a couple million people to miss lunch. :)

Yes genocide and religion has nothing to do with it...

At 10/17/09 09:08 PM, Der-Lowe wrote: ... Source?

Well I would have to look back into the books for that. However to be honest I am simply that lazy. Plus I have other homework and other books to read and sadly this is not high on my list of priorities. But taken from the general idea that everyone is given what they want, someone would have to work. Someone who is comfortable enough regardless of what they are capable of doing.

I know you can blame me for not giving anything other then a thought bubble. There is really no excuse for that.

Well maybe I should throw something up. As food for thought. Skip to chapter 4, called "The wisdom of the crowds"
http://video.pbs.org/video/995674549/pro gram/979359667

At 10/18/09 08:25 PM, Tankdown wrote:

At 10/18/09 04:36 AM, MichaelLee93 wrote: War is when some guy misses work and causes a couple million people to miss lunch. :)

Yes genocide and religion has nothing to do with it...

I didn't mention either because in a successful communist community I don't think either would exist.
That and, I thought some religious people may take offense to it... But eh screw political-correctness.

At 10/18/09 02:51 PM, Warforger wrote:

At 10/18/09 02:19 PM, MultiCanimefan wrote: Pointing out flaws and criticizing certain aspects of country A does not make you anti-country A. We still can't get this shit through our skulls?

Read. All I said was that it wasn't the best country on the Earth.

I know what you were trying to say, it was more directed at Sadistic.

At 10/18/09 12:15 PM, Warforger wrote:

At 10/18/09 01:54 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

At 10/18/09 01:44 AM, Warforger wrote:

name a single country that is better.

Germany, France, Russia and China
Russia and China
CHINA

Are you serious? Because, if you are, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that you might be interested in purchasing.

At 10/18/09 01:54 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

At 10/18/09 01:44 AM, Warforger wrote: Your not the best country,

I'm not even American and I still think it's the best country in the world.

name a single country that is better.

denmark, the netherlands, switzerland , canada, japan is about on par (it would be better if not for the censord porn) , maybe france (people smoke too much there though)

*countrys america is better then

england, spain, portugal, everything in africa, everything in the middle east, everything in aisa (except japan) russia, austrila, new zealand and everything else I left out

although when we talk about "best" its all on subjective terms.

At 10/18/09 09:06 PM, MichaelLee93 wrote: That and, I thought some religious people may take offense to it... But eh screw political-correctness.

...I think you sort of need political correctness in a government.

Just saying. >_>

It is a good in theory, but right now couldn't work, not for a few or more hundered years.

First we would need unlimited fuel and recorces that very efficient and are simple to obtain, distribute, and use.

Also we as a species would need to be mentally enlightened and evolved.

Needs to be no more countries, no boundries.

In this age, communisim is impossible. Hell, no country has even yet been a real communist country.

why is communism bad? maybe because you have no say in what your dictator wants. if he wants to cut your dick off, you have no say in the matter. if he wants to remove your brain in the name of science, he can do that without question. If he wants to kill millions of people in his own country, he can do that. But in a represenative democracy like the U.S.A., we have the constitution, which is the ultimate law of the land. we also get to vote for our represenatives who add amendments, or sign them into law, or see if a bill or law is unconstitutional. also, you get paid on what you do, so instead of having a doctor who goes through 13 extra years of school get the same amount of a high school dropoutwho works at mcdonalds, they get as much as they put in.

At 10/20/09 10:51 PM, dudewithashotgun29 wrote: why is communism bad? maybe because you have no say in what your dictator wants.

In a real communist country, there would be no dictator. Everyone would be the runners of the country with no one above them.

There has never been a real communist country yet.

At 10/18/09 09:13 PM, MultiCanimefan wrote:

At 10/18/09 02:51 PM, Warforger wrote:

At 10/18/09 02:19 PM, MultiCanimefan wrote: Pointing out flaws and criticizing certain aspects of country A does not make you anti-country A. We still can't get this shit through our skulls?

Read. All I said was that it wasn't the best country on the Earth.

I know what you were trying to say, it was more directed at Sadistic.

Sorry I thought you were being sarcastic.

At 10/18/09 09:18 PM, dySWN wrote:

At 10/18/09 12:15 PM, Warforger wrote:

At 10/18/09 01:54 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

At 10/18/09 01:44 AM, Warforger wrote:

name a single country that is better.

Germany, France, Russia and China
Russia and China
CHINA

Are you serious? Because, if you are, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that you might be interested in purchasing.

Oh please, China had more university graduates ( I think 2x as many or something like that))in 07 then the US, makes everything the US uses practically, and there on there way to becoming a super power while the US is on its way to residing as a average country just like what happened to Russia. Thats not to mention there government is actually smart.

As for Russia, they were true liberators, as in they actually knew how to do it properly, when they freed the Balkan's, the people from the Balkans still love Russia to this day, while the people we "liberated" told us to get out when we didn't Also, Russia has a higher Literacy Rate and more nukes.

At 10/21/09 08:05 PM, Warforger wrote: Thats not to mention there government is actually smart.

There work labor is forced on supplying a foreign economy. That would be the turn to capitalism that is driving there economic boom. So in a weird way I will agree.