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[Cuppa-LettuceNog]

"Although New England and the Chesapeake region
were BOTH settled latgely by people of English origin, by 1700 the
regions had evolved into two distinct societies. What were these
differences and why did they occur?"

From an essay question. I don't have the textbook the question was based on, and I can't find history sources; I even resorted to Wikipedia, with nothing to show for it. I do NOT wan an answer, but if anyone has a source of information they can share, I'd be abliged.

[Blackhawkdown]

Here's a big hint, go look up the two different groups that settled them. You should notice a huge difference between the two.

[Cuppa-LettuceNog]

At 8/9/08 01:52 AM, Blackhawkdown wrote: Here's a big hint, go look up the two different groups that settled them. You should notice a huge difference between the two.

Now, would that be Irish and English? I saw a lot about Irish settlement in the 1800's, but next to nothing in the late 1600's early 1700's.

[Blackhawkdown]

At 8/9/08 01:54 AM, Cuppa-LettuceNog wrote:

At 8/9/08 01:52 AM, Blackhawkdown wrote: Here's a big hint, go look up the two different groups that settled them. You should notice a huge difference between the two.

Now, would that be Irish and English? I saw a lot about Irish settlement in the 1800's, but next to nothing in the late 1600's early 1700's.

No, though both groups came to from England they were vastly different. Look at the reasons why the two groups settled in their respective areas. They did so because of vastly different reasons. These reaons largely affected the development of the regions, more so then any other factor. And just because they're English doesn't mean they are the same, there have always been vast religious differences in England this played an extremely crucial role in the development of both areas.

[Cuppa-LettuceNog]

At 8/9/08 02:06 AM, Blackhawkdown wrote:

No, though both groups came to from England they were vastly different. Look at the reasons why the two groups settled in their respective areas. They did so because of vastly different reasons. These reaons largely affected the development of the regions, more so then any other factor. And just because they're English doesn't mean they are the same, there have always been vast religious differences in England this played an extremely crucial role in the development of both areas.

Guy, I misunderstood my own question!

I thought it was grouping the Chesapeake and New England into one lump and saying within the lump theres where splits, it's saying the Chesapeake and New England area's grew to be different from each other... shit. I got it now, excuse my stupidity.

[fli]

At 8/9/08 01:54 AM, Cuppa-LettuceNog wrote:

At 8/9/08 01:52 AM, Blackhawkdown wrote: Here's a big hint, go look up the two different groups that settled them. You should notice a huge difference between the two.

Now, would that be Irish and English? I saw a lot about Irish settlement in the 1800's, but next to nothing in the late 1600's early 1700's.

Obvious one for me... mostly based on what I've read in early American literature--
"Decline" of Puritanism and rise of other Puritianistic branches... which one? I forgot. I'm thinking Quakerism, or Presbyterianism, or whatever.

From what I remember, by 1700-- you were either Puritan, or a non-Puritan, and that's that.

[slowerthenb4]

At 8/9/08 01:47 AM, Cuppa-LettuceNog wrote: "Although New England and the Chesapeake region
were BOTH settled latgely by people of English origin, by 1700 the
regions had evolved into two distinct societies. What were these
differences and why did they occur?"

From an essay question. I don't have the textbook the question was based on, and I can't find history sources; I even resorted to Wikipedia, with nothing to show for it. I do NOT wan an answer, but if anyone has a source of information they can share, I'd be abliged.

http://www.usahistory.info/
http://www.echeat.com/essay.php?t=31035
http://en.allexperts.com/q/U-S-History-6 72/american-history-8.htm
google search it...

[slowerthenb4]

it was more a contrast of quick urbanization and subsequent religious footings in one place versus a sheer drive to install profitable institutional infrastructures and stimulate industry in the other.

[therealsylvos]

At 8/9/08 01:47 AM, Cuppa-LettuceNog wrote: "Although New England and the Chesapeake region
were BOTH settled latgely by people of English origin, by 1700 the
regions had evolved into two distinct societies. What were these
differences and why did they occur?"

I don't know any source but I can point you at a few different things that might help you find it.

1) Religion
2) Economy
3) length of life
4) Population density

I know you don't want an answer but that might help you look.

[Bolo]

Google is a girl's best friend.

[Cuppa-LettuceNog]

At 8/9/08 10:55 PM, Bolo wrote: Google is a girl's best friend.

Gee, the beginning and end of a pre written essay on the subject I have to pay 20 bucks to see? Thanks.

[aninjaman]

New Englan was mainly ports and fishing urban cities. The Chesepeake had fishing and ports like Baltimore but was mainly slave plantations and farming.
Its kinda simple.

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[SmilezRoyale]

From a general standpoint i remember the Chesapeake colonies as being more of a settlement for economic reasons. And the New England as being more religious.

I'll lend you my Textbook Notes from last year on the topic.

Brendan Gilmartin
9/5/08
Blum PP. 15-28

I. The Founding of Virginia
A. (1603) King James I becomes Monarch of England
1. (1604) Made peace with Spain for 20 years
2. Declared that privateering of Spanish galleons must come to a stop.
a. (1500's) Raids on Spanish bullion had brought wealth to England.
b. As a result of James' policy, men thought about getting wealth directly from America
B. Jamestown
1. (1606) noblemen, gentlemen, and merchants petitioned the king to establish colonies in North America.
2. The principal instrument of England's early oversees expansion were Joint-Stock Companies
a. Participants in the company profited or suffered in proportion to the number of shares they purchased.
b. Participants were not completely ruined from failure
c. It allowed for the accumulation of capital beyond the range of private fortunes
3. The men who petitioned the king in 1606 were divided into two groups. One from London, and the other from Plymouth.
a. The Virginia Company of Plymouth operated in the northern part of the continent, and the Virginia company of London was in the southern half
b. The companies financed the emigration of settlers who would agree to work as indentured laborers to investors for the first seven years.
c. (1607) The Plymouth group founded a colony at the mouth of the Sagadahoc River in Maine, but the colony only survived one winter.
d. (1606) The London group send three ships the Susan Constant, Godspeed, and the Discovery up a river that they called the James River and landed on a peninsula they called Jamestown. The area was swampy and was ridden with mosquitoes and microbes.
4. Leadership in James Colony
a. The charter retained the king's authority to govern the colony himself through a council sitting in England, which acted through another council of seven men in Virginia.
b. The president of the council had no authority to give orders of his own, and government proved to be no government at all.
c. Members of the council in the colony quarreled and the colonists remained undisciplined and disorganized.
5. John Smith
a. A 27 year old man of humble origin who had spent 4 years fighting the Turks in Hungary. He was not popular with other members of the council who were of greater age, importance, and indecision.
b. By his own account, other members of the council proved fools, knaves, or cowards.
c. John Smiths Leadership:
i. He took control of the colony,
ii. explored it and mapped it,
iii. Overawed the Indians, and obtained from them the corn that kept the settlers from starving.
iv. stopped the disorganized scramble for gold,
v. Built fortifications,
vi. Planted Indian corn,
vii. And put a cargo of cedar wood to send back to the investors to prove the colony's worth.

6. The New Royal Charter (1609)
a. London was not pleased with Smith,
i. He had been unkind to the Indians
ii. He failed to find either gold or the pacific ocean
iii. Some also described his leadership as tyranny.

b. The council obtained a new royal charter
i. Establishing a new governing council given the ability to appoint governors for the colony.
ii. The council decided on a single governor, Lord De la Warr, who should choose a council of Virginians to advise him.
c. The new charter of the company also launched a campaign to sell Virginia to the English public. It fitted a fleet of nine vessels to carry 600 (mostly men) emigrants.
i. Some paid their own way and received a share of stock as a bonus.
ii. The rest came as indentured servants
iii. Every shareholder would also receive at least 100 acres of land.
d. (June 1609) The expedition set sail though one of the ships was wrecked at Bermuda, at least 400 settlers reached Virginia that summer. However, Lord De La Warr's arrival from England was delayed and his substitute Sir Thomas Gates died at Bermuda. John Smith had been injured in a gunpowder explosion and returned to England. As a result, until 1611, the colony fell into disorder.
i. People starved,
ii. Fortifications fell into ruins, at one point the entire colony had prepared to abandon the settlement when a relief ship arrived.
e. Governor Dale and Governor Samuel Argall imposed rigorous disciplinary laws and resumed the course set by John Smith.
7. Tobacco
a. The Colonists continued looking for a way to wealth.
i. They had found no gold or silver, and needed to find some other commodity of high value
ii. Sassafras and Cedar markets were both satisfied and were not useful.
iii. (1612) Virginians discovered their future, Tobacco.
b. Tobacco
i. Had been introduced to the Europeans by the Native Americans who taught the Spanish to use it.
ii. At first it was used only as a medicine said to cure any affliction from the waist up
iii. By the end of the 16th century people were smoking for the fun of it, much to the distress of King James.
iv. (1612) John Rolfe tried planting the West Indian species of tobacco in and it grew remarkably well.
v. (1617) they were able to ship 20,000 pounds to England.
C. (1618) The Virginia Company's Great Effort
1. Prior to the production of tobacco, the Virginia company had gained little from their £ 50,000 investment,. And the company was pleased from the tobacco production
2. (1618) The Company desired for the settlers to experiment until the right products were found, and in order to do so, they launched a reform program under the leadership of Sir Edwin Sandys, a prominent figure in the English house of commons. The program contained four points designed to entice more adventures (investors), more planters (settlers), and more servants.
a. The company overhauled it's land policies and made investment and emigration more profitable
i. Anyone who paid fare to Virginia for himself or anyone else received a "head right" of 50 acres which he would pay a "quitrent" of a shilling a year to a company.
ii. Wealthy investors could acquire large tracts called "Particular Plantations" by simply selling them to men to cultivate them on a share-cropping basis.
iii. As a result, the company could gain perpetual income from quitrents, having unlimited acreage at their disposal.
b. The company gave settlers a voice in the management of the colony
i. The settlers were allowed to elect representatives to an assembly which would have the power to make laws for the colony.
ii. To alleviate taxes on the settlers, government offices were equipped with their own tenant run farms.
c. To diversity the colony's activities, the company sent over various craftsmen such as vintners, ironworkers, brick makers, glassblowers, etc. in hopes of bringing a stronger economy.
3. New settlers streamed into the colony, and the by the end of 1618 the population had risen from 400 to 1000. And between 1618 and 1624, 4000 more arrived.
4. Despite the high immigration, the population in 1625 stood at only 1210 by official count.
a. Some of the settlers returned to England
b. Most died at the colony, as Sandys had sent settlers without supplies.
5. Those who survived found themselves subject to ruthless exploitation unlike anything in England.
a. (1618-1629) Virginia Tobacco brought prices from a shilling to three shillings a pound. A man's labor could produce 500 to 1000 pounds a year, his labor was worth at least £ 25 and sometimes over £ 100 a year
i. As a result, those that had the authority to control the labor of lesser men could make small fortunes in a short time.
ii. The governor and members of the council were most successful at purchasing servants and tenants who arrived.
b. People who controlled labor could make handsome profits for themselves, but not for the company, and as a result the company was going bankrupt.
c. When rumors reached England that that laborers were being sold back and forth in Virginia James I appointed a commission to investigate. As a result of the commissioner's report, the king dissolved the company and resjavascript:BBSPost.Save();umed

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[Ozukiaru]

At 8/9/08 01:47 AM, Cuppa-LettuceNog wrote: "Although New England and the Chesapeake region
were BOTH settled latgely by people of English origin, by 1700 the
regions had evolved into two distinct societies. What were these
differences and why did they occur?"

From an essay question. I don't have the textbook the question was based on, and I can't find history sources; I even resorted to Wikipedia, with nothing to show for it. I do NOT wan an answer, but if anyone has a source of information they can share, I'd be abliged.

http://www.oppapers.com/essays/North-Sou th-Colonial-Differences/91651

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[Tancrisism]

New England was originally settled by religious people trying to be able to live and practice in peace and autonomy; the Chesapeake area was originally settled by a mercantilist charter.

[Patton3]

At 10/15/09 09:20 AM, Tancrisism wrote: New England was originally settled by religious people trying to be able to live and practice in peace and autonomy; the Chesapeake area was originally settled by a mercantilist charter.

To early for mercantilism there Tanc. If you'll recall, mercantilism wasn't a system until you get into Jean Baptiste Colbert, Louis' minister of finance. Now it would be fair to say that it was founded for more economical purposes than was New England, since it was done through joint stock companies looking to make a profit.
As well, remember you might want to look into the Puritan ideology Nog.

[Tancrisism]

At 10/15/09 04:24 PM, Patton3 wrote:

At 10/15/09 09:20 AM, Tancrisism wrote: New England was originally settled by religious people trying to be able to live and practice in peace and autonomy; the Chesapeake area was originally settled by a mercantilist charter.

To early for mercantilism there Tanc. If you'll recall, mercantilism wasn't a system until you get into Jean Baptiste Colbert, Louis' minister of finance.

Not true. Mercantilism was not a general system, just a pattern of overall government protectionism and control of the economy, especially to insure exports over imports.
( Actually a pretty good article. )

Now it would be fair to say that it was founded for more economical purposes than was New England, since it was done through joint stock companies looking to make a profit.

Indeed.

[Patton3]

At 10/16/09 02:47 AM, Tancrisism wrote:
Not true. Mercantilism was not a general system, just a pattern of overall government protectionism and control of the economy, especially to insure exports over imports.
( Actually a pretty good article. )

True... if I recall, the first settlers went there expecting to find gold all but lying around.... and got screwed royally. I think the idea of having more exports than imports has been around for to long to tie to mercantilism specifically though, more important to it is the idea of there being a fixed amount of wealth. And I'm positive you know it was Colbert who really defined it.
Still, an excellent point.

Indeed.

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