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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-08 19:03:03 Reply

At 11/8/03 06:49 PM, MagicalMusicalPox wrote:
Its "higher" meanings are not any new questions at all, and all those religious allusions ( i.e. Neo= Christ, little happy Sunshine Scene at the end etc) made it suck. Oh, and when Trinity dies. JEEZ WHAT THE FUCK WHERE THEY THINKING, that scene stunk.

Yea... if I wanted something of Biblical proportions I'd go to church.

And yeah, I got to agree that the best part was the train station part because:
1- Train Driver guy who looks like Wade when he had those false teeth and that wig : )
2. Interesting idea that the programs could make little families like that. Its really nifty.
3. Good fight scene VS the Marovingien's henchmen and all, with the guys upside down.

Point 2: Yes, I really liked that idea a lot. I did like the small dialogue they had regarding love. It really was the only strong point in the movie.

3: That was a good fight scene except for the fact that you can't fire an automatic weapon like that with one hand and expect to have such accuracy.... and no one can argue the 'but it's the matrix' shit because if it was 'the matrix' then why couldn't they have enough ammo to fight all of Marovingien's men.. hMM???

After that, its just "the end of the story the way everyone KNEW it would be and YAWN YAWN YAWN"

Yea.. a plot twist isn't really a twist if you know it's going to happen.

REally cool special effects though, can't complain there.
But overall, it sucked more than the first ones, because of many more loose ends, stupid choices made by the people and patriotic and religious clichées

They never really expanded the ideas they had. The writers were split between writing a sci-fi action movie and writing a deep philosophical movie and they ended up doing neither very well in the third movie.

I didn't like the first movie a lot but it had a lot more to offer than the last film.

Agent Smith had the only good lines in this movie.. oh and the lines at the beginning.

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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-08 19:16:27 Reply

At 11/8/03 07:03 PM, Shrapnel wrote:
3: That was a good fight scene except for the fact that you can't fire an automatic weapon like that with one hand and expect to have such accuracy.... and no one can argue the 'but it's the matrix' shit because if it was 'the matrix' then why couldn't they have enough ammo to fight all of Marovingien's men.. hMM???

Well geez, they ARE strong enough to punch holes through walls, so my guess it they are strong enough to hold an auto gun and shoot straight with it. Just like James Bond in Goldeneye :P Having 2x AR33 Assault riffles is lots of fun).

Here's a few more questions for all those of you who want to answer them:

1- Why are the sentinels so ridiculously disorganised and stupid? They have no strategy other than get shot in large numbers. If they had separated instead of flocking like idiots, they'd have killeed everyone in a matter of seconds. And NO its not because it would be too hard to order them all at once, because they are frickin machines AND the computer can render the whole damnendd Matrix!!

2- Why are there so many robots on the surface to defend the robot city, even though the machines know full well that the humans would never have a chance if they mounted an offensive against them. And they can't even kill Neo. Geez.

3- How the hell did agent smith get so strong when he got his ass handed to him in the last one? Now he's invincible!! huh?

4- Why was the Trinity Death scene so cheesy and illogical?

Agent Smith had the only good lines in this movie.. oh and the lines at the beginning.

I think that with the last two movies, Agent Smith = The Matrix ( the franchise, not the actual thing itself :P) He's a GREAT vilain, because he.. well... doesn't believe in shit. He just WANTS POWER. Period. Nothing more. He even knows it useless, he just wants it, and that's what makes him cool for me. I don't want to know its to avenge his mother or get revenge on human kind or whatever, to me that always just seems like a crappy excuse.


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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-08 19:17:01 Reply

I didn't think it was that bad. Just when the invasion of Sion is almost stopped, like the situation becomes 4X as bad and makes you feel hopeless.

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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-08 19:37:15 Reply

At 11/8/03 07:17 PM, HeinousDude wrote: I didn't think it was that bad. Just when the invasion of Sion is almost stopped, like the situation becomes 4X as bad and makes you feel hopeless.
At 11/8/03 07:17 PM, HeinousDude wrote: I didn't think it was that bad. Just when the invasion of Sion is almost stopped, like the situation becomes 4X as bad and makes you feel hopeless.

Well, no, see because by then you know Neo is headed for the city, and you know he'll have to dedfeat agent smith, and from that, you piss-easily deduce that he'll make a deal with the machines (ESPECIALLY if you have seen the preview with the part where he talk with the machine face lord thingy and it says "AND IF YOU FAIL". I mean, you know RIGHT THERE.

Which leads us to another stupid choice of the machines: Why the fuck would they bother keeping their word after agent smith gets killed? What GOOD cold that do them? Huh? Which doesn't solve anything at all in the movie and leads to another possible matrix cycle, with the humans all enslaved and another zion etc etc.

So, BOO!!

But make no mistake, I didn't find it THAT bad. I'm just pointing out every bad points : ) I enjoyed it for the special effects and the cool visual moments in the Smith scene ( when Neo hits him in the face in slow-mo. That was cool.


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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-08 19:44:15 Reply

At 11/8/03 07:37 PM, MagicalMusicalPox wrote: I didn't find it THAT bad. I'm just pointing out every bad points : )

In that case have you realized the discontinuity?

I've signed up for video/film class and the teacher mentioned discontinuity to us, and I immediatly noticed one when I was watching the Matrix. In case you don't know, a discontinuity is when the movie shows one shot, goes to another, and when it goes back to the first shot something changed and it doesn't make sense. Did you see what it was in Revolution?

It occured when Agent Smith was holding a surgical scalpel on Trinity's throat. It showed her close up with the blade visible, then the movie shows a shot of Neo's face, and when it goes back to Trinity you see a blood mark. Next it goes back to Neo's face, and the it goes back to Trinity again and the blood mark was gone.

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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-08 20:16:11 Reply

I dunno...i like Revolutions, i thought it was a great way to end the story, and a savior to the the crash and burn of reloaded. i really dont see why you think it was downhill after the beginning, it certainly held my attention. but as for the best film of the fall... KILL BILL!!!!!!

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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-08 20:18:32 Reply

At 11/8/03 07:44 PM, HeinousDude wrote:
In that case have you realized the discontinuity?

But come on, that isn't so bad. I'm not going to fret because there are mising blood stains. That's usually nonintentionnal, UNLIKE all the crap in the plot.
That's way worse.

But lots of movies have discontinuities. In fact, most movies have a few of them, but meh.

Like in Star Wars: ROTJ, during the final battle, watch Darth Vader's helmet all the time. You'll see, there is one shot where it is dusty, and then afterwards, its all clean and shiny. But who cares : P


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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-08 20:36:23 Reply

At 11/7/03 07:00 PM, Remisser wrote: It's your opinion reloaded is better than the original, just like I've got the opinon that the first one is infinitely superior.

Lastly, if you plan on pulling out names of dead playwrights you probably just learned about yesterday from a drama teacher, try reading some of the works of that author in the original intended language, and try not to be insulting.

ahhh well, you beat me in the fact that you actually dish out good points of veiw, you have your own mind, i have mine, our thoughts differ, and thus will probably be irritated by the fact that we think our thoughts superior... so shit happens
oh and yeah, it wasnt yesterday, it was at the start of the year when i had to perform Caucaisian Chalk Circle and Mother Courage and Her Children....

i just came to the realisation that i dont even like the matrix that much, so why am i trying to be insulting... can you answer that question my good man....


Oh. Your. God.

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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-08 20:54:48 Reply

Alrighty then I just realized that this was a total copy of some critics review off of a website. I don't even know what the hell this was posted here.

But here is my honest review of Matrix: Revoultions.

First off I'd like to say that this movie isn't NEARLY as great as the first one. And is is at par to the second one, but dropps off some serious points for some mistakes.

For example. I did like the the part with the battle in Zion. But the problem is, I'm intrested, I'm not, I'm Interested, I'm not, ect. Some of the parts of that battle just feels kinda...bleh. But all in all it turned out good.

Another example is the ending. The ending is GOOD. I loved the ending with a passion. It was a perfect way to end the movie(Warning: Spoilers)

One reson is the fact that you find out that the real world is ACTUALLY the real world. And you are glad that the war was over.

Another is that you find out the only possible way to end this war is peace because there is no other way to end the war.

Wait you think I made the ending sound all good though.

I hated the fact that it made the movie left open. That you don't know what happened after. Did Neo really die? How on earth did they get all those people out of the Matrix? Will peace really last for a long time?

(Spoilers finished)

All in all this is a good ACTION movie if you want to call it that. It falls a bit short in what the Matrix truly is, but you end up liking it in the end.

But problem. If you are a DIE HARD Matrix fan and you spent most of you're time anylizing the first movie and complaing about the second, then you wont like this one. At all. In fact your probly going to bitch and moan for a while.

All in all.

Teh Matrix: Revolutions= Good movie and a good way to end it.


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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-08 21:24:45 Reply

At 11/8/03 09:16 AM, QuarterMelonClock wrote:
At 11/8/03 07:53 AM, Remisser wrote:
I'd be curious to know what, specifically, the Matrix 2 and 3 brought to the table for you. What new philosophies it posed.
Here we have god (The Architect) who has built this Garden of Eden (The Matrix) and set in place rules (ie. Physics, gravity etc.) But instead of following blindly, they are tempted by the serpent (Neo) and find they can break these rules and also leave the garden. This also gives some meaning to the Rave/Sex scene, the demonstration of primal urges, in an underground cavern… With lava... familiar scene?

Alright, let's go with your sentiment. Let's say the Brothers W. were trying to invoke the spirit of the Bible. That would be a rehash of an old story, which you yourself said that this was not. I know you meant it's not a rehash of the first film, but it would still be a rehash of a story - so then what is the point? If I wanted a Bible movie, I'd watch Jesus Christ Superstar (one of my favorite movies, actually... just met the director a month or so ago at the test screening of his new movie "The Statement" [with Michael Caine] - he's a really cool guy, but I digress...) But, like I said, let's go with your notion.

God [the Architect] offers a world much like the one in which we live in. Not really a "Garden of Eden" since we reject perfection, but a perfection of a different sort. The Devil [Neo] tempts others to leave this perpetual Garden of Eden for the den of sinners in the real world. If this is true, how is the real world like Hell, aside from the "lava"? The humans ultimate goal is to take back the world from the machines and resume life as normal on the surface, but working with the machines. It's too weak of a theory to believe that the Brothers W. were grasping for a Bible based movie. Maybe they liked some of the theology behind it, but what is the ultimate point?

...but I’m tired and Larry Wachowski is a transsexual. :|
I haven’t looked but I’m sure there’s material relating to this floating around.. I couldn’t be the only one to see this…

http://www.tgcrossroads.org/news/?aid=719

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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-08 22:16:57 Reply

At 11/8/03 07:16 PM, MagicalMusicalPox wrote:
Well geez, they ARE strong enough to punch holes through walls, so my guess it they are strong enough to hold an auto gun and shoot straight with it.

Roffelz... that explanation actually further complicates things because to be strong enough to brace into a fixed position with your arm like that... how come when they hit the bad guys, they didn't explode into goo?

1- Why are the sentinels so ridiculously disorganised and stupid?

Although they are all controlled by a central computer, I would assume that they are all running on some sort of fuzzy logic system that help them make simple decisions. Kind of like how your white blood cells in your body just do their own thing but once in awhile they get a signal from the body.


2- Why are there so many robots on the surface to defend the robot city,

Because they just have so many robots built already so they just sit there... um.. yea...


3- How the hell did agent smith get so strong when he got his ass handed to him in the last one? Now he's invincible!! huh?

Maybe something to do with how his program has pretty much taken over the Matrix by this point...

4- Why was the Trinity Death scene so cheesy and illogical?

They wanted to evoke more emotions because she like saw the sunlight and oooh I'm so happy and oh wow now she died boo hoo you're supposed to be sadder and oh wow now Neo has nothing to lose and more to fight for.

What a shitty plot device.

I think that with the last two movies, Agent Smith = The Matrix ( the franchise, not the actual thing itself :P) He's a GREAT vilain, because he.. well... doesn't believe in shit.

He's nihilistic

At 11/8/03 08:18 PM, MagicalMusicalPox wrote:
At 11/8/03 07:44 PM, HeinousDude wrote:
In that case have you realized the discontinuity?
But come on, that isn't so bad. I'm not going to fret because there are mising blood stains. That's usually nonintentionnal, UNLIKE all the crap in the plot.
That's way worse.

Yea, discontinuity in terms of visuals is tolerable... problems in the plot though are unacceptable.

Most of the lines in the movie are laughable.

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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-08 22:20:28 Reply

At 11/8/03 10:20 AM, Newgrundling wrote: 4.) I already classified this statement as false, because it does not hold true for everyone. It is a pity that you felt detached, perhaps if you wrote a list of the problems you had with the 3rd matrix and why, then we could all save a lot of time, because then I could just go through and respond to each point and example, instead of making you think I’m misrepresenting what you’ve said.

Instead of quoting and requoting a lot of text between the two of us, I think it best to tackle main questions of your responses...

The problems I had with the third (and parts of the second one) are this:
The acting is bad. It seemed really high caliber in the first film. When I describe the first film's acting I like to point to the Italian form of art called Commedia Del'Arte. Each character was assigned a basic "stock" part, had an standard costume [leather and vinyl for the Matrix], and they all established their own peculiarities. Keanu Reeves as the unlikely protagonist and one half of "The Lovers", Carrie Ann Moss as the other half of the lovers , Joe Pantoliano as the traitor, Hugo Weaving as the antagonist, et cetera... They all formed together as stock characters, but the story they performed amounted to great tragedy, and ultimate triumph. In the third film the actors are picked off... The Lovers dead [a good Shakespearean reference, at best], The Traitor long dead by this time, The Antagonist dies. Everyone that was imperically important is dead. Not only that, but one of the main deaths in the film feels forced... they chemistry isn't there... I think Carrie Ann Moss is a brilliant actress, but Keanu has always been a weak link for me... he was good in the first film... inside the Matrix... take him out of the Matrix and into the real world and expect him to express emotion and he is terribly wooden. Maybe instead of milking the romance with horrible 'pulp romance novel' language, they could have just had her die and him show his emotion. "We made it Trinity..." to say that, then only realize in blind horror that something is terribly wrong. I wish I had a screenshot of where she was punctured because if she was punctured in the lung - talking wouldn't have been an option. She was impaled in a few spots, if I remember correctly. Morpheus' change from prophet to zany goony freaky prophet in the second film was unsettling to me as well. I could keep going more and more in depth on that perspective later.
The fight scenes just kept becoming more of a repitition. An expected thing.... I... jeez. A lot of my dislike for the film is that it left me empty at the end. Something I can't terribly explain. I felt cheated. The story was so... so gripping and powerful to me on so many levels in the first film. The second and third films didn't leave me reeling. I wasn't asking my inner self so many questions about life and reality and religion as I was with the first one. I just wasn't feeling it, I guess. That you got something out of the second and third films irks me. I really wanted to love the sequels. I did. I bought posters and everything before even seeing Reloaded. Watching the trailers for Reloaded gave me goosebumps. It absolutely revved me up. Then, at the end of Reloaded, and INIFINITELY more so with Revolutions - I just sat there, mouth agape. I felt nothing. If the Brothers W. were shooting for a feeling of nihilism, they accomplished that.

One last thing: You stated that humans now get the choice of living in the fake world, or in the gritty grimey real world... where in the third film did we get to know that the humans had a choice? If they all chose the real world, what would the machines use as a power source?

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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-08 23:33:49 Reply

I recently saw the matrix revolutions today. And I have to say it's a good movie. But it gets confusing.


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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-09 00:35:17 Reply

At 11/8/03 10:16 PM, Shrapnel wrote:
Roffelz... that explanation actually further complicates things because to be strong enough to brace into a fixed position with your arm like that... how come when they hit the bad guys, they didn't explode into goo?

Well, because the bad guys are equally strong and resistant. This is called the "I'm strong therefore resistant" phenomenon, which can be viewed in just about every DBZ episode, where they are strong enough to blow up mountains with a punch, yet they can only slighlty bruise each other while hitting. See, its a scientifical thing, if you get stronger LOGICALLY (....yeah....) your bones become somehow harder ( while maintaining their normal weight and shape of course).
See? Welcome to science-fiction, where only half the things make sense :)

Although they are all controlled by a central computer, I would assume that they are all running on some sort of fuzzy logic system that help them make simple decisions.

OH NO they're not getting away so easily. That's basically like saying the machines are capable of rendering 6 billion human beings without lagging in a huge computer program ( they made themselves entirely) ,yet they are too stupid to order around a couple thousand robots?? They can't even program them to be slightly intelligent? Bullshit I says : )

AAAAAAAAND!! Where the fuck are the bombs in this world?? Did machines figure it was more effective to build thousand of robots to go destroy zion instead of just spraying the suckers with nerve gas or some atomic bombs or something?? That's another instancec of "special effects are cooler than a smart plot".

In truth, the machines would have completely slauthered the humans.


Maybe something to do with how his program has pretty much taken over the Matrix by this point...

But he can't control anything at all, in it ( or we would have seen it, seing as they like to show us special effects so much) aside from the people he "infected". So either he gets stronger by assimilating more people ( which doesn't make any sense, because then, why would he have tried to kill Neo with all of his copies in the second one?? or, why would he try to kill him so soon??) or he just magically learned everything Neo learned.

My guess: they say he's Neo's "opposite", so I guess that they thought that means he must be as strrong as him. But only in the third movie. Yeah, lotsa sense.


He's nihilistic

Proves that there is at least one cool nihiliste in existence


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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-09 00:43:22 Reply

At 11/9/03 12:35 AM, MagicalMusicalPox wrote:
See? Welcome to science-fiction, where only half the things make sense :)

Ahahaha, you should've just said.. IT'S CAUSE THEY'RE IN THE MATRIX.

OH NO they're not getting away so easily. That's basically like saying the machines are capable of rendering 6 billion human beings without lagging in a huge computer program ( they made themselves entirely) ,yet they are too stupid to order around a couple thousand robots?? They can't even program them to be slightly intelligent? Bullshit I says : )

Well if all those machines were really really intelligent, you'd have the problem of them eventually disobeying orders because they'd all have their own agenda.They're easier to control with simplier systems. That way when messages are sent from the head honcho robots, there's not a lot of clutter to get through.
Think of them as workstations.

In truth, the machines would have completely slauthered the humans.

Yes. They had no chance to survive. I have to agree.. where are the fucking bombs?

But he can't control anything at all, in it ( or we would have seen it, seing as they like to show us special effects so much) aside from the people he "infected".

No no, remember how at the end asking Neo how he liked the place? He was making it rain and he made everything dark.

Proves that there is at least one cool nihiliste in existence

Hey, I'm cool.

And a nihilist isn't necessarily negative. :)

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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-09 00:57:33 Reply

At 11/9/03 12:43 AM, Shrapnel wrote:
Well if all those machines were really really intelligent, you'd have the problem of them eventually disobeying orders because they'd all have their own agenda.They're easier to control with simplier systems. That way when messages are sent from the head honcho robots, there's not a lot of clutter to get through.
Think of them as workstations.

You don't have to make them SUPER intelligent. I mean, ,even most enemies from Super Mario 3 where smarter than those robots!! Its so easy to implement a way to control them. You'd just have to, like, plant bombs in them and if they go nuts BOOOOM. Its just that they are SUUUUUUPER stupid, its ridiculous, but then at times, they become slightly smarter ( like when they spot the infantrty chicks, they actually go and do something remotely intelligent.
Anyways, I guess we both agree that that battle was pretty unbalanced and could have been won by the robots piss easily if the writers had any sense.

No no, remember how at the end asking Neo how he liked the place? He was making it rain and he made everything dark.

Oh, I thought he said that meaning that he had comverted anyone so it looked sucky. Alright, I guess he can make it rain, good for him. Then more questions arise, like "Duuude if you can control everything, well.. FUCKING KILL ME ALREADY"... I guess it does make sense that he controls everything though, because he absorbed every program in the matrix, hence gaining their "powers". So.. yeah maybe that's it.
Neo is still a pussy for getting his ass wuped so easily.


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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-09 01:30:28 Reply

Holy Crap!

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At 11/9/03 12:57 AM, MagicalMusicalPox wrote:
Anyways, I guess we both agree that that battle was pretty unbalanced and could have been won by the robots piss easily if the writers had any sense.

I was just playing the Devil's Advocate.
My true opinion (which I don't always reveal because arguing is my hobby) is that yes, the robots are dumb and that didn't make any sense.

Just trying to argue the other side. It does make sense when you compare it to other large systems in life... but in terms of efficiency, they only need to make one 'terminator' type robot with a lot of intelligence to take out the humans.

Oh, I thought he said that meaning that he had comverted anyone so it looked sucky. Alright, I guess he can make it rain, good for him. Then more questions arise, like "Duuude if you can control everything, well.. FUCKING KILL ME ALREADY"... I guess it does make sense that he controls everything though, because he absorbed every program in the matrix, hence gaining their "powers". So.. yeah maybe that's it.

Well remember after he lost the entire environment got changed?
And also, remember how he stopped the elevator when the bodyguard and the girl was trying to escape?

He couldn't just kill Neo because Neo wasn't part of the program yet.

Neo is still a pussy for getting his ass wuped so easily.

Yep.

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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-09 02:20:25 Reply

At 11/9/03 02:11 AM, Shrapnel wrote:
At 11/9/03 12:57 AM, MagicalMusicalPox wrote:

Yep, Devil's advocate I sensed in you : )


Well remember after he lost the entire environment got changed?
And also, remember how he stopped the elevator when the bodyguard and the girl was trying to escape?

Yeah I remember now. I guess he absorbed the guy who was the elevator program hehe.

He couldn't just kill Neo because Neo wasn't part of the program yet.

I just think that since the Matrix itself has no power over the people that aren't in the matrix, Smith would have to contaminate him separately then.... yeah. Which he did I guess.

Hey waitaminute :p Why is he so strong again? I mean, sure he absorbed everything in the Matrix, but who cares, since Neo isn't part of the Matrix anyways, and since the Matrix couldn't get rid of Neo by itself.
I though Smith's ability was just to multiply, which would have been way cooler than now, where he's basically just a boring "Dark Neo" kinda deal.

Meh I'm rambling on here, but yeah, Smith contrtols the Matrix I guess : ) But that still ain't enough for me to explain why he is so strong. Well ok, I can think of a few reasons why but.. hehe ain't my side of the debate ;)


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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-09 06:42:33 Reply

Most of the third Matrix felt like a cheesy scifi channel film from the late 90's. (For me...)

That's another thing that irked me. As well as this:

The better film for philosphy based plot would be eXistenZ. Anyone seen that?

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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-09 08:36:30 Reply

matrix revolutions was better than the second one but like you said it wasnt as good as the first i thought trinitys death scene went on for way to long and me mate was just dying for the architect to say ergo,visa ve or concordantly at the end.

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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-09 10:45:04 Reply

i saw the new matrix....wasent to bad i just dident like how the whole thing revolved around the word love....i was also pretty much lost because i never saw the second matrix

i dident see elf though

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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-09 10:58:58 Reply

dddduuudddde u said "I wouldn't waste money on this film" but u did didnt u how else could u review it? fool

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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-09 11:01:54 Reply

At 11/9/03 10:58 AM, coolblue305 wrote: dddduuudddde u said "I wouldn't waste money on this film" but u did didnt u how else could u review it? fool

ur an idiot he was suggesting we dont waste our money on it.....u should be shot backwards and naked from a cannon through a cornfield

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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-09 12:55:36 Reply

At 11/9/03 10:58 AM, coolblue305 wrote: dddduuudddde u said "I wouldn't waste money on this film" but u did didnt u how else could u review it? fool

I run a community in Boston called "Free Screenings", where companies that promote the movies allow us to see the movie for free and in advance - it's so the press can get to see the movie before everyone else so they could have a nice and tidy review the day the movie comes out for the newspaper. So: I see any movie I want to for free and usually well before the general public (example: Today I just say Looney Toons: Back in Action... Tuesday I see Master and Commander: Far Side of the World... Thursday I see: The Cat in The Hat (a full week before it comes out...) I'm also going to see Gothika next week... All for free. So you're the fool because you pay money. Don't call ME a fool.

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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-09 13:04:06 Reply

At 11/9/03 11:01 AM, -78- wrote:
At 11/9/03 10:58 AM, coolblue305 wrote: dddduuudddde u said "I wouldn't waste money on this film" but u did didnt u how else could u review it? fool
ur an idiot he was suggesting we dont waste our money on it.....u should be shot backwards and naked from a cannon through a cornfield

Hahahaha. Good response...

I notice you live in Philadelphia -78-... you can enter to win advance screening passes to tim burton's "Big Fish" here:
http://www.ew.com/ew/freescreening/0,10766,525790,00.html

And Cold Mountain starring Nicole Kidman here:
http://www.ew.com/ew/freescreening/0,10766,536566,00.html

It's usually easy to win... and you get an ADMIT TWO pass. If you're under 18, I believe all you need is someone to accompany you to cold mountain if you win. :P

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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-09 13:18:25 Reply

the matrix revolutions is actually very shit. sorry, the matrix 1 had class (and bullet time), reloaded had very good special effects and the burly brawl, revolutions has that good scene with the machine (and persephone :D) but the matrix and reloaded were good, revolutions just let it down.

maybe its because insteasd of wating 5/6 years unlike matrix to reloaded (1997-2003) we waited 5/6 months and so we werent as eager to see the next instalment.

i dunno, but revolutions was dissapointing.

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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-09 13:41:30 Reply

At 11/9/03 01:18 PM, bentleylad wrote: maybe its because insteasd of wating 5/6 years unlike matrix to reloaded (1997-2003) we waited 5/6 months and so we werent as eager to see the next instalment.

Matrix came out in '99 brutha. :) 4 year difference.

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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-09 18:34:12 Reply

To side with Newgrundling, the 'bigger' picture of the Matrix trilogy has some merit. The problem is in the storytelling.

Ok, so the Matrix has been reset again and the program is going to be run again and there's this whole issue of 'choice' and you can get into deeper themes like how Zion and Neo are actually the machines way of keeping the freed humans under control by keeping them all in one place anmd giving them 'hope'.

And you can go on with the philosophical issue of choice since those humans that became aware of the matrix chose to be free yadda yadda and humans need choice to survive because a lot of humans died in the first two versions of the matrix which didn't allow them choice and etc. blah blah blah

long story short- it would've been a great trilogy if they didn't fuck up so much.

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Response to Matrix: Revolutions / ELF 2003-11-09 18:37:33 Reply

wow this looks like a great spot to post reveis on stuff imean its not like having a blog or a websight or a websight that accpets revew from users would be a good place to go for this kinda thing

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